Samsung Galaxy Note20 / Note20 Ultra

[Healer Flame]

Samsung's Galaxy S20 Ultra parts cost AU$673 to manufacture - Ausdroid

Each time a new flagship phone is released we rage over the new pricing introduced to us. At the same time we bemoan when certain phones miss out on features and hardware that we, who of course know better, know they should and could have included. The problem is that these parts cost money and […]

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US$530 to produce each S20 ultra ? High cost with high risk.

 

[Dave245]

I have a feeling this time it will happen. S20's poor sales was a sharp turning point to somewhere. Production costs for these phones is just too high to maintain if sales are too slow.

But if the S20 has sold poorly but the Note 20 Ultra sold well, that means they should keep the Note line. The Note 20 Ultra is an amazing design in my opinion.

 

[Healer Flame]

Why can't just Samsung launch both the S and Note series the same time each year ?

Instead producing say 100 Million S series they can produce 70s and 30n Million units.

 

[Dave245]

Why can't just Samsung launch both the S and Note series the same time each year ?

Instead producing say 100 Million S series they can produce 70s and 30n Million units.

That would make sense. I think they like to hold some devices back to announce later, the S series is usually early (very early next year in January if the rumours are true). The Note is announced in August usually. IF the new flagship device is the fold, they could announce Note alongside the S range and keep the fold devices back until August.

 

[Healer Flame]

but the Note 20 Ultra sold well

Its probably too early because the phone is still new. Still on second quarter i think.

 

[Sarbun96]

It's good that they don't need to rush to produce four phones instead of two each time. To be honest if I was them I'd only have the larget Note as a sole model and maybe keep the S21 regular as one size too in the middle if the need to cut down the lineup was real.

 

[Dave245]

Literally all I’m hoping for is that they improve the battery life on the next Note Exynos (if indeed there is another Note).

 

[Sarbun96]

Actually, I guess what does concern me is how it holds up long term. Today it's fine. But I'm planning to keep this phone and use it heavily for 3 years to get a good return from the £1200 it cost. I hope that's reasonable enough, I'd be impressed beyond belief if it could make it.

The biggest challenge there isn't the phone though, it's me and changing my mind. In the past two years I've had Two iPhones, Three iPads, Five Macs (all bought and sold using the money from the last) and still was no happier! This is the last combination of devices I'm to try, and I think this notion of 'one device to do all' is what I've been after.

 

[Healer Flame]

Such a shame the battery life on the Note 20 Ultra

For those who complaining about the battery don't forget Note 20 Ultra has much more major features than other rivals so it will burn and use more energy to feed these power hungry features.
Over average battery life doesn't mean the battery or the phone is bad. You can fit in the most powerful battery but if the phone is boarded with power hungry features then its fair and logic the battery will struggle just a little bit.

I wouldn't return a phone for that reason. I would choose features over the battery life.

 

[Dave245]

For those who complaining about the battery don't forget Note 20 Ultra has much more major features than other rivals so it will burn and use more energy to feed these power hungry features.
Over average battery life doesn't mean the battery or the phone is bad. You can fit in the most powerful battery but if the phone is boarded with power hungry features then its fair and logic the battery will struggle just a little bit.

I wouldn't return a phone for that reason. I would choose features over the battery life.

It wasn’t the features, I turned off 120hz display and a lot of other features, the battery was still poor. I make a lot of calls in a day, it just seemed to drain the battery a lot more than my 11 Pro Max unfortunately.

 

[The Game 161]

my note ultra was poor as well anytime to need turn off features and you are always looking at the battery dropping it's not worth keeping. feature wise it's great but not worth it if you are paranoid at the battery life certainly when you are spending over 1k. any phone at that price point needs to last 7am til bed.

 

[jamezr]

I don't have any features turned off my N20U and it gets great battery life.

 

[mjschabow]

I don't have any features turned off my N20U and it gets great battery life.

Snapdragon and machine learning!

 

[michael9891]

I'm just curious on what planet it would make sense to release the S & Note at the time as has been suggested here? Two huge flagship devices with near identical features, more so now the S looks to have pen support. You can't release those at the same time.

 

[Healer Flame]

I'm just curious on what planet it would make sense to release the S & Note at the time as has been suggested here

When you learn marketing, accounting, business law and cost accounting you will know why. If not please don't say things just for the sake of it.

 

[michael9891]

When you learn marketing, accounting, business law and cost accounting you will know why. If not please don't say things just for the sake of it.

My mistake, I didn't realise you knew everything. Perhaps you should reach out to Samsung with your brilliant idea.

 

[Healer Flame]

Launching 2 major flagships every 6 months is very expensive and as we all know Samsung has been critisize for it. Instead launching many other unnecessary variants it a lot better to release the the S and Note same time.

Samsung can make the Note flat, wide and of course with a pen. The S can stay as it is but different than the Note in many ways. I would say this is very smart marketing strategy.

 

[Healer Flame]

My mistake, I didn't realise you knew everything. Perhaps you should reach out to Samsung with your brilliant idea.

I know you won't believe me Michael but i did before and they were surprised and appreciated my feedback.

 

[Healer Flame]

Apple sells less phones than Samsung but their revenue is much much higher why?

 

[Septembersrain]

Apple sells less phones than Samsung but their revenue is much much higher why?

Most of Samsung sales are lower end devices. Even Apple's budget devices are still bank breakers in comparison I think. Just my thoughts.

 

[The Game 161]

I think what Samsung are planning going forward it far better

S line in say January/february

Z flip line in say June/July

Z fold line in anywhere from June to august....obviously the fold will be their premium devices going forward but I think it's clear the where their focus is currently.

S and note has always been too similar....least now S line and flip and fold are all different lines with different price points.

 

[Dave245]

I think what Samsung are planning going forward it far better

S line in say January/february

Z flip line in say June/July

Z fold line in anywhere from June to august....obviously the fold will be their premium devices going forward but I think it's clear the where their focus is currently.

S and note has always been too similar....least now S line and flip and fold are all different lines with different price points.

If the Note isn't going to be in the line up, i don't think i will bother with a Samsung phone. The only Samsung device that appeals to me is the Note. I think i'm going to wait and see when the Surface Duo is released here in the U.K and check that out.

 

[jamezr]

Launching 2 major flagships every 6 months is very expensive and as we all know Samsung has been critisize for it. Instead launching many other unnecessary variants it a lot better to release the the S and Note same time.

Samsung can make the Note flat, wide and of course with a pen. The S can stay as it is but different than the Note in many ways. I would say this is very smart marketing strategy.

I don't think that logic works here......Samsung releases more phones through a variety of price points. If it was as expensive to manufacture and release phones as you say....Samsung would have done this years ago. Instead they have increased their phone models over the years.

It is one thing to change focus to folding phones...but quite another to eliminate their high end best sellers.

IMHO they are not making money yet on folding phones. Then as some rumors suggested different types of folding phones are on the horizon for Samsung. So they are not eliminating releasing high end flagship phones as much as turning their focus to foldables. I still think the price points for foldables is too high to make them the high end marketing focus points.

 

[jamezr]

Apple sells less phones than Samsung but their revenue is much much higher why?

this is not a secret...Apple controls the manufacturing and supply chains better than anyone else. They negotiate better costs because they can guarantee to sell 100 million phones. Their suppliers might not make as much per unit but they can make it up from the overall gross sales. So their lower cost per unit and high profit margins along with very high sales per model equals very high profits.

 

[mjschabow]

If they want to combine the S and Note lines, then they should just make the Ultra a “Note”. Keeps everyone happy.