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SteveJUAE

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You chaps and chapesses :) still clutching on to your IOS devices, it's not comfort and old slippers scenario it's fear of missing out :D

Somewhere deep down you believe something outstanding is around the corner with the next IOS update, you know it's very remote but you want to clutch on to that and ease your anxiety LOL

Even buying an Ipad mini to ease your pain you know is wrong something like the Surface GO or Acer switch is as smart if not smarter option than your S10's :)

But oh those tingling pains on missing out and learning curve of Android/W10 continuity and synch gets you racing LOL

You know your wallet and the techie inside you is right :D
 

csurfr

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You chaps and chapesses :) still clutching on to your IOS devices, it's not comfort and old slippers scenario it's fear of missing out :D

Somewhere deep down you believe something outstanding is around the corner with the next IOS update, you know it's very remote but you want to clutch on to that and ease your anxiety LOL

Even buying an Ipad mini to ease your pain you know is wrong something like the Surface GO or Acer switch is as smart if not smarter option than your S10's :)

But oh those tingling pains on missing out and learning curve of Android/W10 continuity and synch gets you racing LOL

You know your wallet and the techie inside you is right :D
I don't expect there is anything around the corner with iOS 13. Probably not even dark mode. The only thing I miss between the S10+ and the Xs Max is the integration with all of my other devices. Copy / Paste from the iPhone to the MacBook Pro, Photos, etc. I also like iMessage as none of the carriers can commit to one standard of RCS. Nor does RCS currently work with those that have iPhones, forcing you to use a 3rd party app if you want to send high quality photos.
 
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Roadstar

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I just joined the S10+ club! I traded in my old S8+ and took advantage of the carrier store’s extra trade-in discount plus bundled Galaxy Buds. I’m now setting up the S10+ and I’m eager to try out the Galaxy Buds. Seems like the Galaxy Watch Active I recently bought is also getting some extra use after sitting idle for a couple of weeks :)
 

yui4

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You chaps and chapesses :) still clutching on to your IOS devices, it's not comfort and old slippers scenario it's fear of missing out :D

Somewhere deep down you believe something outstanding is around the corner with the next IOS update, you know it's very remote but you want to clutch on to that and ease your anxiety LOL

Probably correct. I upgrade every year and after a few months I ask myself why I didn’t just keep the previous version as not much is different

#thatsheeplife
 

jamezr

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You chaps and chapesses :) still clutching on to your IOS devices, it's not comfort and old slippers scenario it's fear of missing out :D

Somewhere deep down you believe something outstanding is around the corner with the next IOS update, you know it's very remote but you want to clutch on to that and ease your anxiety LOL

Even buying an Ipad mini to ease your pain you know is wrong something like the Surface GO or Acer switch is as smart if not smarter option than your S10's :)

But oh those tingling pains on missing out and learning curve of Android/W10 continuity and synch gets you racing LOL

You know your wallet and the techie inside you is right :D
FOMO Fear Of Missing Out is REAL! lol Some of us just can't help ourselves :oops:
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Probably correct. I upgrade every year and after a few months I ask myself why I didn’t just keep the previous version as not much is different

#thatsheeplife
This is me every year....
#FOMO
 

SteveJUAE

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I don't expect there is anything around the corner with iOS 13. Probably not even dark mode. The only thing I miss between the S10+ and the Xs Max is the integration with all of my other devices. Copy / Paste from the iPhone to the MacBook Pro, Photos, etc. I also like iMessage as none of the carriers can commit to one standard of RCS. Nor does RCS currently work with those that have iPhones, forcing you to use a 3rd party app if you want to send high quality photos.
Of course we all know IOS makes this things (excluding Imsg) easier for most but the reality is they are available on other platforms :)

Now if your someone who is C&P many times a day then I can see it if your using some obscure app to another that is not commonly on multiple platforms.

However given most common C&P operations are revolving around files, photo's and print screen that are auto synced across all devices and all platforms from your chosen poison of cloud services. Most commonly used apps have desktop/laptop equivalents.

I really think most comments like this are more rhetoric than actual

Part of the problem for many lies in the fact that IOS users are not use to file systems, its second nature for Android and W10 users along with the freedom to send many file types and not Apple's restrictions even if you could see them LOL

Of course if your using MS Office across platform it's synced down to last page viewed. Most other apps or files are easily shared by native options to many other apps

Whilst Imessage bragging rights for full sized images is often quoted for the majority it's irrelevant most snaps are looked at once by friends, family albums are easily shared. Most of the world are not using it in favor of other apps and of course it falls down flat with any msg's to non Iphone users. For sure with some who's only contacts are with Iphones it's fun

Apple have a lot to answer for by dumb down options in favor of making some easier. My kids were shocked when they went to work and found out companies have complex file structures. A little bit of training and perseverance can open a whole side many never knew existed outside of controlled and nanny state of IOS
 
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Shanghaichica

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Of course we all know IOS makes this things (excluding Imsg) easier for most but the reality is they are available on other platforms :)

Now if your someone who is C&P many times a day then I can see it if your using some obscure app to another that is not commonly on multiple platforms.

However given most common C&P operations are revolving around files, photo's and print screen that are auto synced across all devices and all platforms from your chosen poison of cloud services. Most commonly used apps have desktop/laptop equivalents.

I really think most comments like this are more rhetoric than actual

Part of the problem for many lies in the fact that IOS users are not use to file systems, its second nature for Android and W10 users along with the freedom to send many file types and not Apple's restrictions even if you could see them LOL

Of course if your using MS Office across platform it's synced down to last page viewed. Most other apps or files are easily shared by native options to many other apps

Whilst Imessage bragging rights for full sized images is often quoted for the majority it's irrelevant most snaps are looked at once by friends, family albums are easily shared. Most of the world are not using it in favor of other apps and of course it falls down flat with any msg's to non Iphone users. For sure with some who's only contacts are with Iphones it's fun

Apple have a lot to answer for by dumb down options in favor of making some easier. My kids were shocked when they went to work and found out companies have complex file structures. A little bit of training and perseverance can open a whole side many never knew existed outside of controlled and nanny state of IOS
Even as an Apple user I don’t get what all the fuss is about imessage. All of my contacts use what’s app. Even those that have iPhones.
 

michael9891

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Even as an Apple user I don’t get what all the fuss is about imessage. All of my contacts use what’s app. Even those that have iPhones.
Because it’s right there on your phone without having to download anything else. You and your friends might not bother with it but many people do. Lots of my friends in the US have never heard of WhatsApp.
 
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jamezr

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Even as an Apple user I don’t get what all the fuss is about imessage. All of my contacts use what’s app. Even those that have iPhones.
My feelings as well. I'm in the US...but when I switch from my iPhone to Pixel 3 XL....my iPhones friends just say I show up in green and not blue on iMessage. It doesn't change anything else....my friends are just amused that i switched phones again lol :p
 
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Cnasty

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My feelings as well. I'm in the US...but when I switch from my iPhone to Pixel 3 XL....my iPhones friends just say I show up in green and not blue on iMessage. It doesn't change anything else....my friends are just amused that i switched phones again lol :p

I get this too. Especially from my boss who says "ewwwwww, are you using an Android again with those ugly green bubbles????"

#eyeroll :p
 
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jamezr

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I get this too. Especially from my boss who says "ewwwwww, are you using an Android again with those ugly green bubbles????"

#eyeroll :p
lol...fear of the green is real.....



from Reddit....

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#fearthegreen
 
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Blaze4G

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Even as an Apple user I don’t get what all the fuss is about imessage. All of my contacts use what’s app. Even those that have iPhones.
I believe it's an American thing. As far as I know most other countries uses WhatsApp. iPhones were so popular from the get go in America, while in other countries, BlackBerry and Android dominated.
 
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Zito Abroad

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Because it’s right there on your phone without having to download anything else. You and your friends might not bother with it but many people do. Lots of my friends in the US have never heard of WhatsApp.

Why do people insist on keeping themselves so locked in? Yeesh. Everyone I know with an iPhone uses whatsapp or messenger. I mean, it makes sense to use an app that has no restrictions, especially one meant for communication. I just looked at messaging stats, and imessage is definitely a US thing. So, I gotta wonder, why do iPhone users in the rest of the world go for Whatsapp, Wechat, Line, Viber or Telegram. Again, it's a communications app, why chose the one that is THE MOST restricted?
 

michael9891

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Why do people insist on keeping themselves so locked in? Yeesh. Everyone I know with an iPhone uses whatsapp or messenger. I mean, it makes sense to use an app that has no restrictions, especially one meant for communication. I just looked at messaging stats, and imessage is definitely a US thing. So, I gotta wonder, why do iPhone users in the rest of the world go for Whatsapp, Wechat, Line, Viber or Telegram. Again, it's a communications app, why chose the one that is THE MOST restricted?
If someone has a default messaging app that does everything they want it to, why should they download other apps? Everyone who owns an iPhone has iMessage, not everyone who has an iPhone has the need or want to use Messenger or whatever else. Not hard to understand.
 

SteveJUAE

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Because it’s right there on your phone without having to download anything else. You and your friends might not bother with it but many people do. Lots of my friends in the US have never heard of WhatsApp.
That's because the most popular app is FB in the US for messaging :)

Whatsapp and IMSG are in 2nd and 3rd place based on the last data we had here on MR and is now at least a couple of years old
 

LIVEFRMNYC

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If someone has a default messaging app that does everything they want it to, why should they download other apps? Everyone who owns an iPhone has iMessage, not everyone who has an iPhone has the need or want to use Messenger or whatever else. Not hard to understand.

If I'm important enough for someone to communicate with, then it's not a problem for them to quickly install a messaging app. Those that refuse to install a messaging app, oh well, that's their issue not mines. So far, I never had that issue.

I myself actually have Viber for messaging with just two people. It didn't bother me at all to install it. Whatsapp and Telegram is my most used messenger. It's really not a problem using multiple messengers, even if using iMessage as well.
 

michael9891

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Why do people keep missing the point of what I originally said? Someone said they don't don't bother with iMessage because they and their friends use WhatsApp. And all I said was that while that might be the case for them, for many other iPhone users it's not.

I'm not trying to say what's the most popular, what's best or whatever. I'm simply saying that for iPhone users, iMessage is very useful. So I'll repeat myself, it's not hard to understand.
 
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Zito Abroad

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Why do people keep missing the point of what I originally said? Someone said they don't don't bother with iMessage because they and their friends use WhatsApp. And all I said was that while that might be the case for them, for many other iPhone users it's not.

I'm not trying to say what's the most popular, what's best or whatever. I'm simply saying that for iPhone users, iMessage is very useful. So I'll repeat myself, it's not hard to understand.

I think perhaps you're missing the point. My question was, as a communication app, why choose the most restricted? As for your argument about imessage already being installed, as a reason iPhone users choose it over anything else, it doesn't hold water. It may be "a reason," but logic would say most likely, a not so weighted reason. Why? Because, iPhone users use Spotify, Google Maps, Gmail, Chrome, etc...when they have an app "already installed." Again, iPhone users outside the US seem to go for anything but imessage. So it seems to be a US thing. My guess is, it's more to do with a teenager thing. The iPhone seems to be the phone of choice amongst teenagers in the US. And what do teenagers want to do the most? They want to fit in. As they say, fear of the green bubble.
 
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michael9891

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I think perhaps your missing the point. My question was, as a communication app, why choose the most restricted? As for your argument about imessage already being installed, as a reason iPhone users choose it over anything else, it doesn't hold water. It may be "a reason," but logic would say most likely, a not so weighted reason. Why? Because, iPhone users use Spotify, Google Maps, Gmail, Chrome, etc...when they have an app "already installed." Again, iPhone users outside the US seem to go for anything but imessage. So it seems to be a US thing. My guess is, it's more to do with a teenager thing. The iPhone seems to be the phone of choice amongst teenagers in the US. And what do teenagers want to do the most? They want to fit in. As they say, fear of the green bubble.
I'm not missing the point at all. I said a simple thing that lots use iMessage because it's right there and useful. Now we have people chiming in as if to prove they're right. I'm far from a teenager and neither are my friends.
 

noobinator

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I think perhaps your missing the point. My question was, as a communication app, why choose the most restricted? As for your argument about imessage already being installed, as a reason iPhone users choose it over anything else, it doesn't hold water. It may be "a reason," but logic would say most likely, a not so weighted reason. Why? Because, iPhone users use Spotify, Google Maps, Gmail, Chrome, etc...when they have an app "already installed." Again, iPhone users outside the US seem to go for anything but imessage. So it seems to be a US thing. My guess is, it's more to do with a teenager thing. The iPhone seems to be the phone of choice amongst teenagers in the US. And what do teenagers want to do the most? They want to fit in. As they say, fear of the green bubble.


It’s not a teen thing it is an American thing. I’m not a teen and I don’t know many teens and we all use iMessage here.
 

Zito Abroad

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I'm not missing the point at all. I said a simple thing that lots use iMessage because it's right there and useful. Now we have people chiming in as if to prove they're right. I'm far from a teenager and neither are my friends.

Well, there's a lot of Apple apps that are "right there and useful," but imessage seems to be the one app that anchors most people in these threads to the iPhone. One more time, only in the US. And only in the US, the iPhone is the number one phone of choice amongst teenagers. You keep missing this point. IPhone users outside the US go for Whatsapp, Messenger, Wechat, Line, Viber, Telegram, etc...
Not saying, wrong or right for choosing imessage. But as a communication app, why choose the one that's the most restricted? Don't bother with your "its already there" reasoning. People download apps all the time, that's the main thing with smartphones. Apps! Downloading apps is not an issue. Lol.
I'm also not saying only teens use iMessage. Just like not only teens use Facebook and messenger.
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It’s not a teen thing it is an American thing. I’m not a teen and I don’t know many teens and we all use iMessage here.

Yes, I'm thinking it's a US thing more than anything else.
 

michael9891

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Well, there's a lot of Apple apps that are "right there and useful," but imessage seems to be the one app that anchors most people in these threads to the iPhone. One more time, only in the US. And only in the US, the iPhone is the number one phone of choice amongst teenagers. You keep missing this point. IPhone users outside the US go for Whatsapp, Messenger, Wechat, Line, Viber, Telegram, etc...
Not saying, wrong or right for choosing imessage. But as a communication app, why choose the one that's the most restricted? Don't bother with your "its already there" reasoning. People download apps all the time, that's the main thing with smartphones. Apps! Downloading apps is not an issue. Lol.
I'm also not saying only teens use iMessage. Just like not only teens use Facebook and messenger.
When I have an iPhone, I prefer to use iMessage over any other messaging service and so do many others. That's all I was saying. And yet you keep banging on about teenagers and what's more popular. It's got nothing to do with being locked down or any of the other crap you're trying to prove. I won't be replying further because it's like talking to a brick wall with some people.
 

tbayrgs

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Because it’s right there on your phone without having to download anything else. You and your friends might not bother with it but many people do. Lots of my friends in the US have never heard of WhatsApp.

This. Let's face it, this forum has more US members than from anywhere else and in the US, WhatsApp is next to irrelevant. It's just not used by most people. US carriers long ago offered, if not unlimited, huge quantities of SMS in our mobile plans so there was no need to use 3rd party solutions. Using Apple Messages required zero change in use behavior but offered tons of functionality and benefit over standard SMS/MMS.

Once you've become accustomed to those added benefits, it's harder to step back to regular SMS.

The Android Messages app has certainly improved from my past experiences--being able to message from my Pixelbook is nice and a limited approximation of doing the same with Apple Messages on Apple hardware. I also find the smart reply suggestions to be surprisingly (and eerily ;)) good. But the overall experience isn't nearly the same as if you use Apple Messages and especially across multiple devices. I'm managing fine but do miss a few aspects.
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Why do people insist on keeping themselves so locked in? Yeesh. Everyone I know with an iPhone uses whatsapp or messenger. I mean, it makes sense to use an app that has no restrictions, especially one meant for communication. I just looked at messaging stats, and imessage is definitely a US thing. So, I gotta wonder, why do iPhone users in the rest of the world go for Whatsapp, Wechat, Line, Viber or Telegram. Again, it's a communications app, why chose the one that is THE MOST restricted?

And that's when your wrong. It's not the most restricted, it's actually the least restricted. iPhone users don't have to do anything to use it and be able to reach nearly ANYONE. If you have a phone number, it works. If you don't have a phone number but have an Apple device (ie. my kids for years only had iPods or iPad, same as their friends), it works. The only people you cannot reach are folks without a phone number and no Apple device...a pretty small % of mobile device users, expecially here in the US.

Any of the 3rd party apps you mentioned required an additional account and app. I can reach every single person in my contact list using Apple Messages. Can't say that about any of the other apps you've listed.
 
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