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I am glad you’re having fun with pikachu phone, I wish the battery was behaving for you.

10 points for making the My Girl lyrics yours.:)
My phone..wooooo ooooh....

I’ve seen the coral XR in the wild, but I didn’t see the yellow on display at my usual Apple store. Colors are fun.

I’d love a deep hunter green with copper accents.

Sammy releases different colors later in the year? Uh oh. I like the pearl white and the green.

I am not looking to upgrade right now, but eventually, yes.
Yes, in the past during the second half of a phone's life cycle they will either bring over a color that had been restricted to another region or they release a color that had been leaked from the beginning but not released when the other colors were. I was quite surprised to go to Best Buy awhile back and see a pink S9 on display. I wasn't paying attention when that got released.

Hunter green with copper would be lovely. I think there was an Essential phone like that. I'm very disappointed they didn't continue the Essential lineup. There was so much potential there.
 
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Yes, in the past during the second half of a phone's life cycle they will either bring over a color that had been restricted to another region or they release a color that had been leaked from the beginning but not released when the other colors were. I was quite surprised to go to Best Buy awhile back and see a pink S9 on display. I wasn't paying attention when that got released.

Hunter green with copper would be lovely. I think there was an Essential phone like that. I'm very disappointed they didn't continue the Essential lineup. There was so much potential there.

Pretty gutted about Essential stopping phone production too, as I would have happily bought a gen 2.

Thanks for the Sammy colors info. :)
 
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Any info on whether the S10E screen will be AMOLED?
This came up in a discussion elsewhere. General consensus is that it will be. Samsung has spent too much time and money on AMOLED for their flagship devices and won't want to pull an Apple and push out their own XR type of phone with the S10E and offer it in LCD. Also why they won't shoot themselves in the foot with pricing or removing key features on any of their flagship devices.

What I may have missed is whether or not expansion will be possible.
[doublepost=1549750760][/doublepost]Samsung better offer expansion on all three models with enough max room. Sammy released their 512 GB microSD card a while back. They need to recoup costs somehow. Rumor is they're working on a bigger size class right now.
 
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That 10SE is looking better with every render. It’s almost there with the four symmetrical bezels. 2020 will be very interesting.

I’ve just done my grocery shopping and I usually make a list in notes on my iPhone and then make sure I get everything as I’m going round. Annoyingly I have to keep logging back into the phone after it times out and I was thinking how useful the always on display would be for this because you can pin notes and have them on there.

One of my staple Apps is called ShopShop. You can set it to stay on screen ie. override phone’s sleep mode. Only gripe is they haven’t updated it for the X screen, but it still works. Intuitive & clever little shopping list App.
 
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I’ve just done my grocery shopping and I usually make a list in notes on my iPhone and then make sure I get everything as I’m going round. Annoyingly I have to keep logging back into the phone after it times out and I was thinking how useful the always on display would be for this because you can pin notes and have them on there.
if you have a note 9 write your note, select share (as image file) then select pin to AOD :D

You can do it with many things without using a note 9 pen, like msg or any note/email etc etc via the share option and then select pin to AOD I guess with a S9/S9+ too.

So could be a lot neater than my scrawl using typed text :) and the image can be larger if say you used a screen shot but you may have to pick a nice font size for clarity

Other nice uses like a little map for a friends new house etc etc

It's quite cool as you can also delete it on AOD and if you paste another it replaces it and there are icons on the AOD to display or hide when there is a pinned item and GM she can even add a Pikachu gif LOL




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if you have a note 9 write your note, select share (as image file) then select pin to AOD :D

You can do it with many things without using a note 9 pen, like msg or any note/email etc etc via the share option and then select pin to AOD I guess with a S9/S9+ too.

So could be a lot neater than my scrawl using typed text :) and the image can be larger if say you used a screen shot but you may have to pick a nice font size for clarity

Other nice uses like a little map for a friends new house etc etc

It's quite cool as you can also delete it on AOD and if you paste another it replaces it and there are icons on the AOD to display or hide when there is a pinned item and GM she can even add a Pikachu gif LOL




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Lol “wifi”.

My shopping list has “proper national broadband network”... :rolleyes:
 
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Lol “wifi”.

My shopping list has “proper national broadband network”... :rolleyes:
LOL I think you may of over indulged in my simple 4 words example :)

Unfortunately for me my Wife shops everyday in one of 2 malls within walking distance:


banner_pavilion.jpg suri.jpg

They are about a mile apart and even connected via a Air Conditioned glazed link bridge :oops:
 
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2020 will be very interesting.

I'm keen on 2020 for Samsung to use their CorePhotonics purchase to good use. There's some other rumors of purchases making their way into flagship phones, but nothing that isn't more than rumor. I think a dual, tri or quad-speaker setup using tech from their Harman purchase may yield a solid flagship. Since the Samsung consortium is spread out and each company operates as its own entity, we might see a Samsung specific battery that could power those speakers, higher end cameras and better screens while using less energy. And they wouldn't have to sell the battery tech to anyone and keep it to themselves for a few generations before offloading it to buyers.

That's unless LG Chemical can come up with something similar in the next 2-3 years to sell to their customers, like Apple, and beat Samsung SDI to the punch.
 

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I think a dual, tri or quad-speaker setup using tech from their Harman purchase may yield a solid flagship

From my POV, I’m seeing a LOT of wireless ear buds hitting the market. I’m thinking the need for quality speakers on a smartphone won’t be as crucial moving forward. Wireless will become much more practical & mobile, that people will be able to plug unobtrusive buds into their ears anywhere, & for the most part, have little need for speakers.

Samsung will most likely ditch the headphone jack in 2020, which will push wireless buds development ever further. It’s definitely the future of listening to media/phone calls on your smartphone.
 

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From my POV, I’m seeing a LOT of wireless ear buds hitting the market. I’m thinking the need for quality speakers on a smartphone won’t be as crucial moving forward. Wireless will become much more practical & mobile, that people will be able to plug unobtrusive buds into their ears anywhere, & for the most part, have little need for speakers.

Samsung will most likely ditch the headphone jack in 2020, which will push wireless buds development ever further. It’s definitely the future of listening to media/phone calls on your smartphone.
I would hope not. I haven't found a wireless solution that I liked. The Shure SE535 wired model sounds better than the $50 USD more expensive bluetooth version.

I won't claim a $40 pair of in-ear wired buds sound better than the SE535 wireless/bluetooth model, but the reality is that at the $90-200 range, a wired pair sounds better. Problem is, even with the highest bluetooth version, your audio is still very compressed and if you're the type to carry FLAC files on your phone, then you're getting less while wireless.

Strange Parts did a video on bringing back the iPhone headphone jack. I recommend watching it.


The reason the jack has been around for decades and decades is because nothing better has ever come along in a similar form factor while taking up the least amount of space in a small device. Apple, the company that somehow came up with a method to stack boards in a phone to cram more stuff in can't fit a small chip?


Samsung, in theory, could make a phone with 12 TB worth of flash chips on multiple boards inside a device body, and probably still find room for a chip and port. With phones getting bigger and bigger, I don't buy the space being an issue excuse.
[doublepost=1549794816][/doublepost]The main reason Apple removed the jack was because they had developed a bluetooth product to replace the use of the jack. The companies that copied Apple do not. And I don't believe Samsung has one either. Apple had a product that was ready to go and became another income stream for them. Apple removed the headphone jack and chip/hardware, saved a few pennies on each device, while shipping out a $150 addition for those who wanted to keep their tunes to themselves.

There's rumors of Samsung having developed wireless buds, but that doesn't equate to them removing them in the S11. In fact, that would turn fans of the Galaxy S series away. If I've already spent hundreds of dollars on high end buds, why the hell would I want to spend another several hundred on a wireless pair that is about 80-90% the quality of the wired device?

I'll just keep using the same phone until they bring it back or hop on over to another flagship that kept the port.
[doublepost=1549795496][/doublepost]Whoops. Forgot about Beats bluetooth headphones. Or that Samsung owns Harman Kardon, who have developed bluetooth headphones. Same goes for JBL. Except the low range stuff sounds terrible, and you'll be spending $150-250 before you can get something that's somewhat close to wired.

And, don't forget, these aren't a one time purchase. If you put enough charge cycles on these wireless devices, they will need to be replaced.

For Apple, it was the difference between $30 headphones that users might replace 0-1 times in 3 years of ownership over people who'll probably replace AirPods several times due to bad batteries and being out of warranty or losing one of the pair.

Apple could in theory release AirPods 4 two years from now and make iPhone XS the bare minimum iPhone required to be able to use them. Thus creating another round of upgrades to users' phones.

Like I said, it was done for another revenue stream. There was no non-monetary logic involved here.
 
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I would hope not. I haven't found a wireless solution that I liked. The Shure SE535 wired model sounds better than the $50 USD more expensive bluetooth version.
Unfortunately, high quality audio on smartphones is going the way of SACD/DVD Audio on disc - it’s a niche market.

I’d love for wireless audio to get to that point, & it will. But in my view, it’ll get there faster the sooner manufacturers ditch the headphone jack.

There are wireless buds with built in DACs now. It’ll definitely evolve, but we need to let go of old tech & allow Bluetooth (or whatever wireless standard + codecs) to get there.

Those like yourself who’ve invested in quality wired headphones are going to be the unlucky niche market caught in between this era of wired/wireless transition.

Reality is, most people want practical/portable/decent audio over wired/outstanding audio.
 

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Unfortunately, high quality audio on smartphones is going the way of SACD/DVD Audio on disc - it’s a niche market.

I’d love for wireless audio to get to that point, & it will. But in my view, it’ll get there faster the sooner manufacturers ditch the headphone jack.

LG is capable of putting a high quality DAC inside their flagship. LG problems aside, what allows them to do the same in a phone smaller than competitors?

There are wireless buds with built in DACs now. It’ll definitely evolve, but we need to let go of old tech & allow Bluetooth (or whatever wireless standard + codecs) to get there.

Except they suck. The tiny DACs in dongles are terrible. And USB-C connection headphones are terrible, too. Bluetooth 5 is the latest standard and it's what the 8, X, XR, XS use. The iPhone 7 uses bluetooth 4.2; the Airpods require 4.0 or higher, iOS or Android supported.

The current line of mid-range and high end BT 5 buds and headphones still don't deliver as good a quality as wired devices. BT 5 doesn't improve audio quality at all unless the sending and receiving device use newer codecs developed to deliver better audio quality. Without that, it's meaningless. There is no white paper on BT 6. It isn't even being discussed.

Even with a high end BT 5 receiving device (buds/headphone), you're still going to experience latency and compression. Like I said, there is a reason the jack hadn't been replaced in its lifetime with a better wired interface. It's because none existed. Bluetooth is a major setback in audio quality. It isn't even comparable to wired devices.

Those like yourself who’ve invested in quality wired headphones are going to be the unlucky niche market caught in between this era of wired/wireless transition.

Probably. But Samsung may face the same backlash it did when they removed SD cards or priced products excessively high. Customers simply didn't purchase it; sales were low, and they learned their lesson the next year.
[doublepost=1549798491][/doublepost]The only way to get around the problem is:

1. Codecs that deliver flawless audio quality.
2. No data compression.
3. Zero to near-zero latency issues.
4. Long life batteries.
5. Latest and greatest codecs that can be updated OTA from device to device.
6. Low cost for greater quality device. The difference between a BT 4 device at $80 and nearly $500 is staggering, as is a $150 set to a $500 set. Cheaper devices are worse.
7. Bluetooth's issues remaining connected. Eliminate connection drops.


There's more issues that need to be resolved or a newer wireless technology has to be developed. Even AirPods have issues with sound quality and dropping connections. If anything, an industry move to BT only audio would cause any company capable of developing a portable music device, like an MP3 player, to thrive sales wise.

We're regressing in technology, not going forward. The smartphone eliminated the need for a separate music player. Then why is Apple working on a new iPod Touch? Hint hint, money.
 
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Even AirPods have issues with sound quality and dropping connections.

Without derailing the thread, I can only comment on these. I've had them since release & dropouts aren't an issue (in fact, connectivity, at distance, is one of their strong points). Audio quality, on the other hand, may be - they're average, or at best, slightly above average.

I love my uncompressed audio in my home theatre, but when it comes to portable audio, I prefer the mobility & freedom of Bluetooth audio & synergy with my smartphone & tablet.

Samsung's capable of pushing wireless audio. I'm firm in my beliefs that the sooner they kill off the headphone jack, the sooner wireless tech will evolve & reach HD audio-esque quality.
 
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Without derailing the thread, I can only comment on these. I've had them since release & dropouts aren't an issue (in fact, connectivity, at distance, is one of their strong points). Audio quality, on the other hand, may be - they're average, or at best, slightly above average.

I love my uncompressed audio in my home theatre, but when it comes to portable audio, I prefer the mobility & freedom of Bluetooth audio & synergy with my smartphone & tablet.

Samsung's capable of pushing wireless audio. I'm firm in my beliefs that the sooner they kill off the headphone jack, the sooner wireless tech will evolve & reach HD audio-esque quality.


Sigh.

That's not really up to them. If the interface is limited in what it can do and what codecs are available, the best of the best hardware good enough for that generation of BT is meaningless. You're looking at another 10-15, maybe 20 years before wireless reaches parity with wired.

If that's the case, what's the point of bigger capacities? Why bother with 512 GB or 1 TB? HD or 4K videos? Why bother with 4K video on a tiny lens when you can buy a dedicated 4K camcorder? 5,000 ebooks may take up 20-30 GB of space. No one will read that much in their lives. No amount of PNG or Jpegs taken on a phone at resolution will take up that much space. Maybe if phones adopted the ability to take RAW, but why? A DSLR is better for that.

Apple bought a company that already made wireless headphones. They came up with AirPods that cost $150 a pop. Remove the jack and make it so that nearly every other method of listening to wired music is terrible. People will spend $150 not once, but probably 2-3x during the time they own that one phone. Bad batteries, stolen AirPods, damaged AirPods not covered by warranty, missing one half of the set, etc. If Apple can get an effective $2000 out of people who buy the first in their flagship line, why not?

If Samsung wants to drop the jack from the S11 and beyond, that's fine. Just slash $250 from the price of the phone. Because you need to spend a ton of money to get bluetooth gear that's close to wired quality.


P.S. Apple has nearly $290B in cash reserves according to a report from last year. You can't tell me Apple didn't think of developing a higher end codec and system chip to overcome the common issues with Bluetooth.
 
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People will spend $150 not once, but probably 2-3x during the time they own that one phone.

Not here. We have a 2 year consumer warranty that covers us, & it covered me for a free replacement after 22 months due to battery degradation.

& how can so many think of Airpods as a revelation as oppose to a virus planted by Apple to rort people of $$$?

If they, or Samsung, or whoever, get the codecs right, wireless audio will boom even further than it already has.

That's it from me on this topic. Apologies all.
 

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AirPods or even Beats weren't the first wireless devices. It's not going to happen anytime soon. That's it. AirPods are not a revelation. Wireless earbuds, albeit connected together, existed before AirPods. This is Apple we're talking about. They will do anything to nickel and dime customers with hardware and an abundance of cable that could strangle a small island nation.

That's nice that Australia has such strong consumer laws, but the rest of the world does not, except the EU in some cases. Regardless, you've effectively paid for extended warranty by paying far more than people from other nations. You pay $700 extra for the base XS Max, and $900+ more for the 512 GB capacity.

These add-on to Australian consumer laws, but you're still paying more. You could buy 2 AppleCare+ warranties and several battery replacements.
 
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Whilst I'm no audiophile I just don't see the fuss over these BT sets. I went through all the BT handsfree stuff before Iphones were even invented :rolleyes: and most cars did not have BT or Phone sockets. You were for ever charging them, loosing them or fiddling with your ears.

The best I had around 2006 was the Oakley RAzr that by fluke with my Imate phone could also play back my WAV fles I think at the time thru the headset whilst I sat on the beach every lunchtime all be it in one ear LOL

So standards have moved on and got better ish but for me as a casual user my Bose QC20 noise cancelling in-ear for use on airplanes can't be matched with theses ~$150 ear buds and the Airpods are suppose to be the worse for fit/leakage and not much use for in-flight movies :rolleyes: or quite Kindle reading etc, keep the jack IMO :)
 

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I'm no audiophile as well, but I do like my earbuds to sound good at a rock bottom price. And for that, you need a headphone jack. I've got 10 pair of Panasonic Ergofit earbuds at $9 each. Still the king of bang for buck earbuds. I keep 2 pair in the car, 1 at the office, a pair each in 2 different day packs, and one in my pocket. The rest are spares. Good luck trying that with BT earbuds. If Sammy take the jack away, it better be at a benefit in some other area of functionality, and not just to maximize profits.
 

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I've got 10 pair of Panasonic Ergofit earbuds at $9 each
Bahaha! I've bought about 20 pairs since 2013. I use them while gardening/pruning around the house. If I mess them up, I'm only out $9. The already attached tips are great. I've never tried out the other two sets that come with each box.

I've tried destroying them through loud music (not in my ear) and they don't go bad. Probably the best earbuds under $20. Not as good as monitor earbuds, but they're fantastic for the price. Initially I didn't like the very soft wire covering they used before they merged into the main line, but I've found they harden over time without becoming brittle via exposure to air and sunlight/UV.

My original pair I ordered in April or March of 2013 still work flawlessly. By my count, they've been through 2000+ hours of music and or audio playback. Look as good as new.

The only thing you need to do with these is use a ear swab dipped in a tincture of alcohol and water to clean out the silicone's interior and exterior every few months to limit bacteria.
 
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Bahaha! I've bought about 20 pairs since 2013. I use them while gardening/pruning around the house. If I mess them up, I'm only out $9. The already attached tips are great. I've never tried out the other two sets that come with each box.

I've tried destroying them through loud music (not in my ear) and they don't go bad. Probably the best earbuds under $20. Not as good as monitor earbuds, but they're fantastic for the price. Initially I didn't like the very soft wire covering they used before they merged into the main line, but I've found they harden over time without becoming brittle via exposure to air and sunlight/UV.

My original pair I ordered in April or March of 2013 still work flawlessly. By my count, they've been through 2000+ hours of music and or audio playback. Look as good as new.

The only thing you need to do with these is use a ear swab dipped in a tincture of alcohol and water to clean out the silicone's interior and exterior every few months to limit bacteria.

Yup. these are some of the best fitting buds for me, and many seem to agree. I've recommended these to friends and family, and haven't had anyone say a negative thing about them, considering the price. For anyone living up North, they even work in extremely cold temperatures. I was in Winnipeg a few weeks ago, and it was at -44'C (-50'C with the windchill) which is -58'F, and the buds kept working. Trust me when I say, you don't know cold until you feel Winnipeg cold.
 

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Yup. these are some of the best fitting buds for me, and many seem to agree. I've recommended these to friends and family, and haven't had anyone say a negative thing about them, considering the price. For anyone living up North, they even work in extremely cold temperatures. I was in Winnipeg a few weeks ago, and it was at -44'C (-50'C with the windchill) which is -58'F, and the buds kept working. Trust me when I say, you don't know cold until you feel Winnipeg cold.
Yes, the fit is great. I think it's the silicone versus foam injection other buds used to or still use. The only time these will fit terribly is if you wipe your outer ear with alcohol to remove even your natural oils, which deliver that lock like seal.

Are you referring to operating temperature or contraction of silicone?
 

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Are you referring to operating temperature or contraction of silicone?

Just in case anyone was wondering about the durability in cold, I was referring to using my earbuds outside in those extreme cold temps. I wasn't even wearing a toque or anything covering the buds, and the continued to work just fine. The cords were frozen stiff, but didn't effect the sound.
 
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I just noticed something from the last leaked pics I posted. Both the S10+ and S10 in those leaked pics have a screen protector on. That means the rumors of screen protectors not working with the ultrasonic FP reader are false. Also, there is speculation that these phones will come with factory screen protectors, which is what we may be seeing in these leaks.

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Are you referring to the curved outline of a plastic/glass film? I'm inclined to agree with you given the speaker overlap in the 2nd pic.
 

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Are you referring to the curved outline of a plastic/glass film? I'm inclined to agree with you given the speaker overlap in the 2nd pic.

Yup, definitely a screen protector. If you go back to the original pics, it goes around the whole phone.
 
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