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[0388631]

I can't say for certain on this case, but sometimes a more dense product has the effect of feeling premium to some people. I know when I picked up one of the LG phones, part of the reason I didn't buy it was because it was too light and somewhere in my mind that became "not as good".

I'm not saying it should weigh five pounds, but maybe that's what's happening here. They are both as premium, obviously, but maybe that can explain the issue.

If you're using heft as a measurement of quality then you're off. If you can tell the difference of less than 20 grams in most cases, which is just the weight of 3-4 US nickels, blindfolded at that to prevent bias, I'd be impressed.

In fact, given the XR's weight, doesn't it bust your logic that heavier equals better? We all know the XR isn't better than the X given its 20 gram difference, and if so, then is the XR effectively better than the XS given its weight edge, too?

Would that make the S10+ in glass and ceramic better than the XS but fall short of the XS Max even though we know that's not true? Would the same logic apply to Apple's laptops that weigh less than their PC counterparts? If heft is objectively better, than wouldn't following that line of logic allude to Apple selling crap?

Maybe that's a yes since current low-end sub $150 phones are beating out some iPhone models that are technically and realistically better than those phones, but because heft is a measure of quality, then the iPhones lose out.

And if a company can come up with excellent hardware and features, but use new manufacturing techniques to reduce weight, are their efforts in vain?


iPhone 7 (2016): 138 grams
iPhone 7 Plus (2016): 188 grams
iPhone 8 (2017): 148 grams
iPhone 8 Plus (2017): 202 grams
iPhone X: 174 grams
iPhone XR: 194 grams
iPhone XS: 174 grams
iPhone XS Max: 208 grams


Samsung Galaxy S7 (2016): 152 grams
Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge (2016): 157 grams
Samsung Galaxy S8 (2017): 155 grams
Samsung Galaxy S8+ (2017): 173 grams
Samsung Galaxy S9 (2018): 163 grams
Samsung Galaxy S9+ (2018): 189 grams
Samsung Galaxy S10e (2019): 150 grams
Samsung Galaxy S10 (2019): 157 grams
Samsung Galaxy S10+ Glass (2019): 175 grams
Samsung Galaxy S10+ Ceramic (2019): 198 grams


Huawei P20 (2018): 165 grams
Huawei P20 Pro (2018): 174 grams
Huawei Mate 20 Pro (2018): 189 grams

Xiaomi Pocophone F1 (2018): 182 grams


Nokia 7 Plus (2018): 186 grams
Nokia 8 Sirocco (2018): 160 grams

LG V40 ThinQ (2018): 169 grams
LG G7 ThinQ (2018): 162 grams


One Plus 5T (2017): 162 grams
One Plus 6 (2018): 177 grams
One Plus 6T (2018): 185 grams

Google Pixel 2 (2017): 143 grams
Google Pixel 2 XL (2017): 175 grams
Google Pixel 3 (2018): 143 grams
Google Pixel 3 XL (2018): 184 grams


And for fun, some mid-ranges and very low end phones:

Samsung Galaxy A6 (2018): 162 grams
Samsung J3 (2018): 152 grams
Samsung J4 (2018): 175 grams
Motorola Moto G6 (2018): 162 grams

 

[michael9891]

Everyone to their own I guess. It's funny how people care about privacy and security but totally ignore precautions. Its extremely easy to hack a phone's camera and when someone hacks my phone I dont want them to follow me everywhere.

But, regretablly most phone users just don't care but then they complain why their phone is overheating, lagging, stuttering and call quality drops. These are signs that indicate your phone is hacked.
[doublepost=1551144942][/doublepost]Few years ago my phone was hacked and seriously I went mad. Both my front and back cams started taking pictures silently.
Many times found camera turned on without me touching it. Battery started draining and so on....

As soon as installed Bitdefender and AVG anti virus everything was solved.

I’m not trying to be argumentative, just genuinely curious. If you always tape up the front camera because you’ve had both cameras hacked before, then surely you must tape the rear cameras as well to keep it secure?

 

[tbayrgs]

I’m not trying to be argumentative, just genuinely curious. If you always tape up the front camera because you’ve had both cameras hacked before, then surely you must tape the rear cameras as well to keep it secure?

And disable the microphones and GPS/location tracking, becuase someone might always be listening or tracking your location.

I don’t begrudge anyone having genuine concerns over privacy at all. But if you’re really that worried about all these potential risks, you probably shouldn’t carry a smartphone at all.

 

[mclld]

And wear aluminum foil clothes

 

[Eggtastic]

Random quick question: Are the new s10 / s10+ on display at stores yet?

 

[0388631]

I've been using split screen since S3 back when it was considered a gimmick and still is by Apple fans until it's on the iPhone... Kinda like Smart Stay, now on the iPhone as "Attention Aware".
Since split screen is a native Android feature now, its safe to say he's biased against how Android OS works.

Pretty much.

Don't forget one handed mode. It took the rest of the Android OEMs years to catch up.

 

[SteveJUAE]

Keyboard wise I always liked swift key so plan to use that when my S10 arrive

Meanwhile my google hub has arrived

Partner has already set it up

Nice just asked the Mrs who's in UK at the mo to pick me one up

Usual reply not another gadget

My rebuttal only 2 arms and how many handbags

 

[0388631]

Random quick question: Are the new s10 / s10+ on display at stores yet?

My nearest Verizon store has it. I passed by whilst driving home yesterday and it was crowded inside. I'll wait a few weeks before checking it out. If you shop at Costco or Sam's, they may have Verizon, ATT or TMO booths inside with demo units. Should be easier to try it out instead of a carrier store.

 

[kazmac]

Nice just asked the Mrs who's in UK at the mo to pick me one up

Usual reply not another gadget

My rebuttal only 2 arms and how many handbags

That’s my mom with “Another knapsack? Or oh my god can’t you get a phone/computer/iPad that works?”

This year, mom. This year.

 

[0388631]

What in the hell are you doing to require a knew knapsack each year?

 

[SteveJUAE]

That’s my mom with “Another knapsack? Or oh my god can’t you get a phone/computer/iPad that works?”

This year, mom. This year.

I must confess 6000 miles 8 hours time difference and a few drinks does improve ones courage

 

[Healer Flame]

I’m not trying to be argumentative, just genuinely curious. If you always tape up the front camera because you’ve had both cameras hacked before, then surely you must tape the rear cameras as well to keep it secure?

I have virus busters now two powerful anti virus apps so I feel much better but I really dont use the front cam as well as I dont feel comfy many apps recording your life line.

 

[kazmac]

What in the hell are you doing to require a knew knapsack each year?

I commute in NYC, so these cheap knapsack-purses from Amazon combust every few months. Zippers and tears, mostly. But they’re very light weight and cute and cheap. I do need a bigger and more sturdy one, but I’ll wait and see what I do about an eventual iPad replacement.

I could have said I play Indiana Jones and raided some temple, but the commutes are close enough.
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I must confess 6000 miles 8 hours time difference and a few drinks does improve ones courage

That’ll do.

 

[0388631]

I commute in NYC, so these cheap knapsack-purses from Amazon combust every few months. Zippers and tears, mostly. But they’re very light weight and cute and cheap. I do need a bigger and more sturdy one, but I’ll wait and see what I do about an eventual iPad replacement.

I could have said I play Indiana Jones and raided some temple, but the commutes are close enough.
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That’ll do.

Get one made from thick leather hide! Once treated with a sealing wax they last for years and develop a nice patina.

 

[kazmac]

Get one made from thick leather hide! Once treated with a sealing wax they last for years and develop a nice patina.

I don’t suppose you know a rhino willing to shed its hide?

Not trying to derail this thread, as I am actively considering an s10e. It will be awhile, but that phone is on my mind.

 

[0388631]

I don’t suppose you know a rhino willing to shed its hide?

I'm no poacher.

Basically you'll want to stay away from the backpack style leather goods and opt for something like Indiana Jones. Instead of zippers there should be buckles. Your best bet is to ask someone who uses such things on a daily basis. Daily gear sites can point you to the right direction but I'm sure there are people on here who can help you, too. Hide is usually untreated or lightly treated and thicker. Thus tougher. They can be stiff when new.

 

[kazmac]

I'm no poacher.

Basically you'll want to stay away from the backpack style leather goods and opt for something like Indiana Jones. Instead of zippers there should be buckles. Your best bet is to ask someone who uses such things on a daily basis. Daily gear sites can point you to the right direction but I'm sure there are people on here who can help you, too. Hide is usually untreated or lightly treated and thicker. Thus tougher. They can be stiff when new.

No Poacher: same here.

Thanks for the suggestions.

In re: S10e as I am sure was posted, Verizon offering buy one get $750 credit toward a second one.

Best Buy $50 off unlocked.

 

[Lobwedgephil]

Yeah, I went to take a look yesterday and agree with pretty much everything you said (I've only read the last few pages ). £200 (USD 260) is unjustifiable.

XS Max £1100 v S10 Plus £900
XS £1000 v S10 £800

For me, personally, my storage needs usually come in at around 100GB or so - for the last 5years. Therefore 128GB is the sweetspot without jumping up to 256GB. To get a sufficiently sized 256GB iPhone you're looking at another £150 (USD200).
200 + 150 = £350 (USD 465) for equivalent phones is a no brainer.

Plus I think we're past the point where frequent updates matter much save security updates, which are timely. Back in the day not getting an update, even a .1 release, could be the difference between having some major feature like copy & paste, email attachments or whatever. But now these are pretty mature, polished OSs where software functionality advances glacially year on year. And Google's granularity push has moved most things worth updating for to the Playstore anyway. It's a barely an issue imo.

Well, my Note 9 is still on December security patch, and hasn't been updated to One UI or Pie yet. So terrible Samsung updates are still an issue to me.

 

[nviz22]

Well, my Note 9 is still on December security patch, and hasn't been updated to One UI or Pie yet. So terrible Samsung updates are still an issue to me.

T-Mobile?

 

[Lobwedgephil]

T-Mobile?

Unlocked version, but on At&t.

 

[nviz22]

Unlocked version, but on At&t.

Oh, I don’t know what to say there. I know my dad’s Note 9 doesn’t have Pie on T-Mobile.

 

[digger10]

Well, my Note 9 is still on December security patch, and hasn't been updated to One UI or Pie yet. So terrible Samsung updates are still an issue to me.

That's not good.
Weird, I just this afternoon updated an S7 I'm getting ready to tide me over for when I trade-in my current phone. It's now running this month's patch. No Pie though obviously.

 

[Shanghaichica]

Well, my Note 9 is still on December security patch, and hasn't been updated to One UI or Pie yet. So terrible Samsung updates are still an issue to me.

It is a bit random but I've accepted that. I've just updated this S7 and it's on the February patch.
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That's not good.
Weird, I just this afternoon updated an S7 I'm getting ready to tide me over for when I trade-in my current phone. It's now running this month's patch. No Pie though obviously.

Lol I'm on the same phone to tide me over and mine just updated to the February patch too.

 

[kkh786]

Well, my Note 9 is still on December security patch, and hasn't been updated to One UI or Pie yet. So terrible Samsung updates are still an issue to me.

I wouldn't point the finger at Samsung.. it is your carrier that is slowing things down.. thus voiding your comment in relation to having a go at Samsung.

I have been on Pie since mid January and I have been on the February security patch for more than a week now.

NB, I have an unlocked Note9 from Samsung UK.

 

[Wide opeN]

That i understand, but to say the Note feels more premium then the S line i had to laugh, they are made of the exact same materials and really makes it hard to take the rest of the post seriously.

I sat there and made it a point to touch and feel everything I mentioned in my post and the Note 9 feels MUCH MORE PREMIUM than the GALAXY S10. Whatever metal Samsung used on the s10, it is a step backwards.

I guarantee it'll come out that the S10 aren't made from the same metals other galaxy devices have been using the last 2-3 years. Watch!!!