By the time you are able to view 8K properly the images you took will likely be forgotten. 8K is certainly a gimmick for now
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By the time you are able to view 8K properly the images you took will likely be forgotten. 8K is certainly a gimmick for now
I think it all depends how many you get. If you get a lot it’s more noticeable. I know for Twitter and most apps if you get more than 50 notifications for one app it will stop coming through all together which is madness
Well the videos are going to be of loved ones so I like to try to get the best quality available at the time. And not really for me, because how much life span do I have left, really? But someday the kids will look on these and who knows how good their tech will be. And they might wish for more quality.
We are watching old home movies taken back in the 1960's and there is no sound and the quality is like poo. Even going back to 12-15 years ago when the kids were babies the quality of some of my images is like poo. Back then 480p was so exciting and state of the art. Now, on a 4 k screen it is mush. I'm so sad and wish I could retroactively make all my footage of the kids and pets from a decade ago look as good as the footage I take now.
I guess but is it really necessary taking 8k videos that take up enormous space just get a little higher quality screen grabs?
To each their own I guess.
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Never had the issue close to the degree you are describing. Doze might sleep some apps and then we you wake your phone they wake. But again, turning off Doze for those apps resolves that.
That 100x zoom is absolutely insane. This is only gonna get better, but I just like the fact a phone camera is able to do such a thing. Again, it's not like you're going for the 100x zoom pics, but the ability to just a get a glimpse at things so far in the distance can be a useful tool.
Funny how no one want features Android phones have until Apple has them on an iPhone. Somehow it is the next best thing even the people that said it was useless on an Android phone now see the merits of the feature.
I have seen this so many times...rinse and repeat....
Even if you don't have a monitor to display all the detail of 8k resolution doesn't mean the pictures won't be fantastic... especially if you blow them up.
I have seen this so many times...rinse and repeat....
Even if you don't have a monitor to display all the detail of 8k resolution doesn't mean the pictures won't be fantastic... especially if you blow them up.
I get what you're saying, but the human eye really struggles to distinguish differences in resolution at some point. How much of a difference can we really are between 4k and 8k?
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If you're talking about me, you're way off base here. I've used both but I prefer Android over iOS and am usually one to defend it. But personally I just don't see the benefit of 8k video right now. But I guess we'll see.
The only thing I'll truly miss is Face ID. Apple has done an amazing job with that. But Android Smart Lock via bluetooth makes up for that.
Will slightly miss the Find My app, but I mostly use that on my iPad mini 5 anyways.
Also, the "Look Around" feature in the Maps app is faster and has more clarity vs Google Maps street view.
Not really going to miss the AW, since I rarely use 3rd party apps. Although I'm going to keep it.
I plan on giving the Galaxy Active 2 a try.
Things on my Pro Max that urk me:
The signal strength and GPS ... I can't count how many times I had to toggle airplane mode off and on to get stay connected. And the problem is sometimes unbearable when wifi is toggled off but still on in the settings. I would have to turn wifi completely off in the settings to have good uninterrupted service again. And no, it's not because wifi is connecting to random networks. Most of the time I get decent service and GPS, but when I don't, it's frustrating.
Waze ... My favorite GPS app is buggy. It will lose GPS signal a lot, even when Apple, Here, and Google maps pick it up with no problem. The Spotify integration is also buggy. I thought this might be a iOS 13 issue, but Waze works fine on the iPad Mini 5 and 8+.
Photo zoom ... After all these years, I still hate the fact that iOS has such a limited zoom. It's not big deal, but it sucks for the times you try to zoom in close within a photo.
Cloud services ... 3rd party cloud services need to be either kept open in the background or in the forefront to upload. That kind of defeats the purpose of auto uploads.
Hotspot .... Can be temperamental when connecting non Apple devices.
Bluetooth .... It's still a gripe I have with iOS.
Full Screen caller ID ... It sucks when you're playing a game (especially multiplayer) or typing something, and a call completely interrupts everything. Apple NEEDS to fix this or give an option with iOS 14.
Things on S10+ that urk me: (which might be the same on the S20 Ultra)
Gallery ... Hate the fact that pics and gifs from 3rd party messengers and some non-messenger apps end up in my gallery. Nowadays it's much more organized, and Samsung had made it easier with a "clean out the clutter" section under the suggested options. But I still end up with most of that instantly uploaded to my cloud services. Google and/or Samsung needs to find a way to end this.
Camera (Auto Mode) ... Many times outside on clear sunny days, it darkens the shot. I have to go into Pro mode and set the ISO and/or Shutter higher. And I'm not speaking about taking shots with the lens in direct sunlight. I hope this changes with the S20 Ultra since it's all new cameras.
Badges ... Clearing the notification tray also clears the app badges on the home screen.
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Any video shot with more information/detail is a win. Especially when down converting.
Forgive me if I'm probing. But I'm of the belief that the Ultra isn't a huge upgrade over the Note10+. Obviously, you have the Ultra camera capabilities... but me personally, I don't see myself taking full advantage of it. And judging from your viewpoint on how much Apple have a foothold in regards to switching, would transitioning to the Ultra be a bad idea especially if the Note10+ didn't keep you? Just curious...
I'm in different over both platforms. I fully understand the advantages and disadvantages over both, I just feel it's cool to switch every now and then. Being on this site.. I'm sure majority of people favor Apple, we are all biased. But I enjoy the features Samsung has brought to the Galaxy phones... and when the time comes that Apple has warranted features for me to switch, I'll gladly switch.
The quality will still be better even if it’s downscaled to match the resolution of the display. Also it’s future proofing especially if you are taking videos of things you want to view a lot in the future like videos of your kids.
Exactly. When 4k recording first came available on a Galaxy device, people (including the tech enthusiasts) were saying things like, "why do you need 4K recording, when 4K TV's aren't even mainstream yet?" Such a near sighted thing to say. ESPECIALLY from so called tech enthusiasts. Look where we are today? All those 4K recordings from back then, are getting full use now. Where as, the 1080P recordings are desperately getting upscaled with TV's processing. But THE MOST IMPORTANT TRUTH is, you didn't need a 4K TV back then to take advantage of the 4K recording from your Note 3 in 2013. None of the tech reviewer ever mentioned this. This guy in the video below is a Note user, after getting my Note 10+, I've been going through his videos for useful tips. He has a video from way back in 2014, explaining why 4K recordings look better than 1080P recordings on your 1080P TV. So, if the same rules apply, 8K recordings could take full advantage of 4K TV's, the way 4K recordings can't.
That’s bloody insane!!! Also I love how you can hear the camera zooming in and out. Just shows that it’s not just digital alone! There is something mechanical going on in there!
I really need to see how the rest of the camera is shaping up.
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The better the source material the better the quality of the picture of video no matter what kind of display you view it on.
I don’t have a 4K TV. All of my TVs are 1080p but I record everything in 4K. You should always record in the best quality possible.
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I wish he would make more videos. I’ve been watching him since the note 3 days. He went on a long hiatus and then came back just before Christmas promising to do a video everyday I think for 90 days.
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Use cloud storage or use an SD card. It’s simple.
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Anyone know if Dex is still supported on the S20 line up. Samsung didn’t mention it during the event, unless I missed it.
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@Shanghaichica DEX is listed on the S20 info page on the Samsung website.
quite a lot of camera examples here on the ultra check it out
If that’s real then I certainly wouldn’t mind having that on my phone.
Just had a play with a demo model for the S20 Ultra! One word! Huge (compared to my Note10 anyway)!? Not too heavy though thankfully! Looks slick.. loving the minimal bezel, even less so than my Note10! The temptation grows! Must resist! 
I can assure you its thicker than Note 10+. I put my Note 10+ flat on top of the S20 U and had a good look. Its obvious the huge battery is taking up spaces but of course the advantage outweighs the cons. I'd rather have little thicker phone with huge battery than vice versa.
I was referring to the bezel not the footprint! The lack of curvature helps I think! Also camera cutout is smaller.. it all adds to the illusion of minimal bezel!
Wow that zoom in on the moon was incredible! It might not take the "go to shot" you might want but it certainly is great option to have.
But much like the number of megapixels doesn’t automatically mean better photo quality, same goes for video resolution. The little bit I’ve read so far seems to indicated that based on the file sizes of the 8K video, it’s recording at a comparatively lower bitrate (apologies if i’m not using the exact proper term). Essentially, I believe that implies it’s incredibly compressed and will not have as good detail as it could. People with much greater understanding of this than I basically are saying a 4K 60fps recording at a higher bitrate will provide better quality than a lower bitrate 8K 24fps.
I’m not disqualifying 8K as useless right now...it’s absolutely nice to have a future proofing option that means the video I take now will look better years from now. It just appears that this first stab at 8K might not be the best option.