Ok hope this link works this time. It’s a video of the exclusive colors. I think it’s in Korean.
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Samsung galaxy S23 and S23 ultra
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14 pro max is my daily
Pixel 7 pro is my work device and use for walks for photos etc
Fold 4 is my portable tablet for when I don’t want to use my iPad Pro
S23 ultra will be for photo comparisons and who knows if I enjoy it will keep it. My plan was to get Xiaomi 13 ultra as a device just for photos and think that device could be the best on that area
That said I tend to use my iPhone the most
Xiaomi 13 Ultra? Where would you get it from? Would you get full carrier support for it?
Rumours are it will be a global release. Due out in April. I certainly can’t keep 14 pro max, pixel 7 pro, s23 ultra and fold 4 though With 13 ultra. Maybe 2 phones would have to be sold
Maybe have 3
iPhone and pixel are phones I will keep no matter what
Hello. I own an HDR10+ Ryzen 6000 series laptop with 4k 120 Hz OLED display and in my laptop, S23U looses at every single photo. here are more examples, try to download them in your laptop and watch them side by side, not in the website... Try to zoom and look for details. S23U is loosing. But its a great phone, hands down one of top 3. Probably the very best overall. Im hoping a camera software update soon!
I am hoping my Samsung film will be decent. I'll definitely check out both LK and Omoton, I had an LK glass on an iPhone, that was effective. Supershieldz are good at releasing early. My recent favourites have been ESR Armorite and Spigen for tempered glass protectors, I will look at their film versions for the S23 Ultra when available. The sticky films are the worst, makes the user screen experience unusable. Also be careful with Amazon reviews on protectors as these are often paid reviews to gain sales traction, so not necessarily genuine 5 star ratings.
I will be very interested in seeing how low light photography performs with the Xiaomi 13 Ultra, S23 Ultra & Vivo 90 Pro Plus pitted up against each other in tests.
For 2022 I decided not to go with Apple or Pixel for the first time & kept my Z Fold4; it's really versatile, proving faultless. I'd prefer a bigger battery and internal s-pen but I'm nit-picking.
I've also been pretty impressed with the photos I've taken with the Fold despite not on the 7 Pro or 14 Pro camera levels, judging from the reviews.
I'm pretty sure I'll end up on a fold but I'd want the cameras to be at least as good as the ultra + the spen. I can live with the crease in the display tbh but I definitely don't want to compromise on the pen/cameras.
Thanks. I'm in bed trying to shake off a bad cold, so I will take your word for it. It may be a couple of days before I feel like dragging myself to the kitchen table and setting up my MacBook Air M1.
I am sure there is room for Samsung to improve the photo quality. And they usually do issue software updates that help with a lot of early adopter issues. It may very well never rise up to what the LG offers but it's my best option in a very sparse field of offerings.
I'm looking for very specific but actually not ridiculously demanding quality to the photos. I've been pretty happy with my S22 Ultra photos except in low light. And I did sometimes end up with too many blurry moving pet and kid photos. I think there's now a setting to remedy that and if it truly solves the problem, I will be thrilled.
I know that you could argue that for the price they're charging that the S23 Ultra ought to at least match the standard of a cheaper phone from a couple of years ago. I can't argue with that.
But current pricing is the result of many varying factors and encompasses more than photo quality. Samsung is supporting their products across multiple markets for more years than I will actually own the phone. There are costs associated with everything they're offering and they need to charge a certain amount to sustain their business.
That may actually have been what did LG in. They did offer an amazing audio system in their phones. People are still raving over the sound quality of the model you own. They brought a high level of quality to so many of their features and thus set the standard very high for years to come. But something had to give and they did suffer some quality control issues. Service and support were lacking in some markets. They couldn't sustain what they were doing well enough to attract enough customers and generate enough profit, so they had to pull out from the smartphone business. They did do some amazing things, but they misfired a lot of other aspects.
Samsung color science has always been something of an acquired taste. For awhile they were trending toward a more natural look that I was very happy with, but with Apple going towards a more saturated look for awhile, I think they're back to their old bad habits this year. They do have the unfortunate habit of copycatting Apple even when Apple is doing something undesirable. And going back to an unnatural look isn't good in my personal opinion.
When they were at their most self indulgent, I've always thought they boosted reds to ridiculous levels and their greens were just weird. It looks like that they may be back to doing that again, unfortunately. That would be a shame because I quite like the way S22 Ultra has handled colors.
But I will keep calm and wait and see for myself. I've seen a lot of videos the last couple of days and the results haven't always come across as consistent to me.
Ultimately, I'm going to be evaluating the total package, not just the camera.
Oh and by the way, your LG phone does appear to have a very nice display.
From the early rumours, the Z Fold 5 could get a major design overhaul. Samsung might use a teardrop-style hinge, like Oppo's Find N2. This will make the Fold more compact, hopefully allowing for an in-built s-spen.
Agree with you on the cameras, they put in the S22 cameras on the Fold 4, not the Ultra cameras. For the mega high price, I would also expect to see a premium camera set up from the Ultra. Samsung may decide to opt for the S22 Ultra cameras which are certainly no slouch in 2023. Samsung effectively have two different flagships with the Ultra & Fold now so both should have the best hardware available.
yeah me too.
I tried a pixel 7 pro recently and it was definitely a very clever camera system. The specs weren't amazing, but the AI made up for it... BUT, and it's a big but, sometimes the AI would really mess up and the top half of the photo would be a real AI mess. I'd say in use v apple 14pm, the 14pm was Vgood most of the time, the pixel 7 pro was excellent 15% of the time (maybe a bit more), looked like a DSLR photo in fact, then 75% slightly behind iphone but vgood, but that last 10% where AI mangled things just killed me.
Plus then, no samsung onetouch which years ago would be a positive but now I find a negative, no spen, no 10x optical zoom (although 5x is better than the iphone's lousy 3x).
So yep, full package needs to be considered IMHO
The Fold is just too bulky for me as a small woman already carrying around 2 phones. But my husband absolutely loves his Fold 3. If he could get S23 Ultra cameras in a Fold phone he would be overjoyed. But I do hope the trade in value for his Fold 3 during preorders won't be too low.
I went into a samsung retail shop after the fold4 launch to have a look (I had to wear a disguise in case the apple guys next door noticed me).
The guy there said multiple times that the fold is samsungs premium device taking over from the ultra.... when I pointed out the cameras he got a bit defensive tbh as if no one had ever called him out on it.
but yeah, fold5 with spen+ultra cameras.... That would be hard for me to pass up
My big concern is how much the Fold 5 will cost if they can both put the S-Pen inside and then have Ultra quality cameras.
I could live with the bulk IF it ticked all the boxes and one of those boxes would be that the outside screen was fantastic and as good day to day as the ultra's screen. I haven't lived with the fold4 so I don't know if that's true at the moment... one thing I learned from the flip, I don't want a phone these days that I have to fold/flip open every time a notification comes in! (unless I'm out having fun in which case it becomes a desirable trait helping me to ignore it)
I think with less people upgrading every year, apple are apparently looking to gouge the frequent flyers with an ultra model and I can only imagine samsung will be throwing everything in it's top of the range too. It shifts the common-sense-best-value model further down the range but then I've never had any common sense where new tech is concerned
My husband had this amazing Huawei phone a few years ago. It took photos that even today some of our latest and greatest probably could not rival. However, it only did that a small percentage of the time. He experienced the same frustrations with that Huawei that you just described with your Pixel. It's like Huawei concentrated all their efforts into getting the phone to be able to produce very specific miracles but under very specific conditions. They devised a marketing strategy based on this miracle and called it a day.
My husband did like almost everything else about that phone, but as I recall, nothing else was particularly superlative.
thing is when all the newness wears off and the pixel peeping stops, what I really want is the best all round phone I can have. I dont want to feel like I'm missing a pen, or a zoom or anything else really! and if another phone happens to take a few better photos in certain circumstances, I won't know.
it's a shame they don't provide the EXIF data for each photo. I'm pretty sure what we'd see is that the pixel is choosing a faster shutter speed than the samsungs. It would be right to do so certainly but it's something incredibly easy for samsung to change in software if that's what's happening.
I actually messaged the guy and he had no clue (like many reviewers) that there is now a Quick Shutter option. He said he was going to try it and update everyone.
good on you for contacting him!!
Maybe Samsung should have a quick tutorial when opening the camera app explaining some of the features. Sure reviewers should know about these settings already but the average person trying to take a photo of their kid is just going to think the camera isn't as good as an iPhone or Pixel when a moving object comes out more blurry.
My guess is a good majority of people just use the camera as is when you open the app without adjusting any settings.
My guess is a good majority of people just use the camera as is when you open the app without adjusting any settings.
true, this is where AI should really be applied even if it's only looking at the scene and thinking ahhh moving subject quick shutter, faster shutter speed.