so, about 30 minutes ago I posted about people receiving their ''shipped'' updates by their carrier or via samsung.com just an hour ago.
I gues nobody here received this nice message yet?
Nope, still "in progress".
Had my first feel up of the S8 and S8+ in a store today. To my surprise it left me rather unimpressed. First impression: plasticky. I know it's glass, but I still didn't get a feeling of great build quality.
Then the screen. The screen to bezel ratio is obviously impressive, but I didn't feel that these screens were giving me any more truly usable real estate over my 7 Plus. The S8 in theory has a similar screen area to the 7 Plus, but it looked clearly smaller. The 5.8" diagonal measure in such a small footprint had me drooling until I held the actual phone. Now I see the difference between the aspect ratios.
Even the S8+ screen didn't feel substantially bigger than that of my 7 Plus. The extra area at the top and bottom just didn't wow me. And it felt like I had to reach down to the home button in an uncomfortable way. The home button by the way didn't have a nice haptic vibration, it felt mushy compared to that of the 7 Plus.
Then the colour accuracy... Basic mode is what I always use, to get those more realistic colours. But the white point on that one is too red and as I understand can't be adjusted. Adaptive mode features the manual RGB adjustment but there the colours are too saturated for me overall, not sure if it can be brought to the same levels as the Basic mode but I wasn't able to achieve that in the store.
And the curvature of the screen took me by surprise. Somehow I thought the curve would be a lot sharper than it is. I still got that annoying feeling of the edges of the screen actually being kind of a transparent bezel...
So yeah. I'm pretty disappointed. Of course things change a lot as you really begin to use a phone. But the things I mention above are too significant for me to be able to get used to them, I think.
Still hoping for the Note 8 to blow me away. But for the moment, I suddenly like my 7 Plus a whole lot more. Surprisingly the feel in the hand is a big part of that, the 7 Plus just feels so much more well built and reliable. And neither the S8 nor S8+ made me feel that I'm missing out on screen size with my 7 Plus.
My optimal phone I think would be a blown up S7, because that one felt truly great to hold. And it had just the right curvature to the screen glass, i.e. essentially just 2D glass like on the iPhone.
So, I guess let's see what August/September brings...
This one maybe better in flat mode if it hides the LED more the previous oneThis is the review I watched this morning:
My guess is, nothing will truly compete with your iPhone. Subconsciously, you have predetermined this.Had my first feel up of the S8 and S8+ in a store today. To my surprise it left me rather unimpressed. First impression: plasticky. I know it's glass, but I still didn't get a feeling of great build quality.
Then the screen. The screen to bezel ratio is obviously impressive, but I didn't feel that these screens were giving me any more truly usable real estate over my 7 Plus. The S8 in theory has a similar screen area to the 7 Plus, but it looked clearly smaller. The 5.8" diagonal measure in such a small footprint had me drooling until I held the actual phone. Now I see the difference between the aspect ratios.
Even the S8+ screen didn't feel substantially bigger than that of my 7 Plus. The extra area at the top and bottom just didn't wow me. And it felt like I had to reach down to the home button in an uncomfortable way. The home button by the way didn't have a nice haptic vibration, it felt mushy compared to that of the 7 Plus.
Then the colour accuracy... Basic mode is what I always use, to get those more realistic colours. But the white point on that one is too red and as I understand can't be adjusted. Adaptive mode features the manual RGB adjustment but there the colours are too saturated for me overall, not sure if it can be brought to the same levels as the Basic mode but I wasn't able to achieve that in the store.
And the curvature of the screen took me by surprise. Somehow I thought the curve would be a lot sharper than it is. I still got that annoying feeling of the edges of the screen actually being kind of a transparent bezel...
So yeah. I'm pretty disappointed. Of course things change a lot as you really begin to use a phone. But the things I mention above are too significant for me to be able to get used to them, I think.
Still hoping for the Note 8 to blow me away. But for the moment, I suddenly like my 7 Plus a whole lot more. Surprisingly the feel in the hand is a big part of that, the 7 Plus just feels so much more well built and reliable. And neither the S8 nor S8+ made me feel that I'm missing out on screen size with my 7 Plus.
My optimal phone I think would be a blown up S7, because that one felt truly great to hold. And it had just the right curvature to the screen glass, i.e. essentially just 2D glass like on the iPhone.
So, I guess let's see what August/September brings...
My guess is, nothing will truly compete with your iPhone. Subconsciously, you have predetermined this.
Samsung is NOT playing and games with battery problems this time around!!!
Start at 6:05 if you want to get to the point.
Incase you missed this post ..... https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...might-be-aborted.2008435/page-7#post-24483492
I am in full belief that the MAIN reason why Samsung is doing all these extra apps in Touchwiz that replicate Google services is to get them out there and then transfer them to Tizen.
Have you been in the Galaxy Apps Store lately? It's slowly filling up with apps that were in Play Store.
What I really like about Samsung is how patient and strategic they are, they are in this for the long haul. There will be a day where Tizen is ready to go global, for now Samsung are enjoying the spoils of Android while building their own ecosystem very quietly in front of us, lol.
DeX, Bixby etc.... There will come a day when these all run Tizen. At some point their TVs, Washing machines, Fridges, microwaves etc... Will have Tizen. It's just a matter of time.
Samsung are a company that is constantly ensuring they find a "fallback", remember how quick they were to adopt Android JUST as Symbian and Windows Mobile fell apart? Samsung had successful Symbian and WM phones in 2009, but as the hammer came down on both OSs they quickly launched Galaxy S in 2010 ready with their own fully fledged UI that they had developed on both Symbian and WM.
One day Tizen will get it's day to shine, but Id say don't hold your breathe, I don't see Tizen taking over before 2020, until then Samsung will rideout the Android Wave, and they will continue experimenting adding duplicate features etc... To what Google do, if the day comes before 2020 where Android becomes highly compromised, don't be shocked when they bring a flagship with Tizen that is complete with an Exynos SoC, ISOCELL Camera, Touchwiz interface witg Bixby, DeX, Galaxy App Store etc... built-in in pretty much ready for prime time.
Sorry, I think you got the wrong guy buddy. I had the Note 7 on preorder until it met with its untimely demise, and that's just one example from years of not cutting the iPhone any undue slack just because it's an iPhone.
It just so happens that the S8 didn't feel very solid in my hands. While my iPhone does. And so do the S7, Nexus 6P, Mate 9, Nexus 5, pretty much all the Lumias... Do I need to go on?
It's all subjective of course. But not subconsciously predetermined, at least not in this case.
Yes, but the implication of the post @Oohara replied too, was that he simply didn't like it because he was a (and I hate having to use the term) an Apple fanboy. He isn't.But it must be subconscious biases at play, otherwise we'd all agree on the same thing. The question is what goes into determining our biases. Personally, the S7 feels cheap to me in hand compared to the S8. The S8 feels very premium to me when compared to S7.
We both have obvious biases -- not brand loyalty/bias but subconscious biases are altering our perceptions and leading us to different observations.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/9to5go...-support-bixby-voice-assistant-at-launch/amp/
Bixby won't be ready in time for the launch next week. This gives me pause. Not because I care about Bixby but if a feature Sammy has spent so much time touting and even dedicated hardware to on the device isn't ready, what else are they rushing on the phone?
Yeah, makes the chances of an already delayed European launch even further back timeframe wise. Just push an update to the device Samsung ASAP and give us the users/consumers the opportunity to remap the button and uninstall the bixby/briefing like screen period.https://www.google.com/amp/s/9to5go...-support-bixby-voice-assistant-at-launch/amp/
Bixby won't be ready in time for the launch next week. This gives me pause. Not because I care about Bixby but if a feature Sammy has spent so much time touting and even dedicated hardware to on the device isn't ready, what else are they rushing on the phone?
But it must be subconscious biases at play, otherwise we'd all agree on the same thing. The question is what goes into determining our biases. Personally, the S7 feels cheap to me in hand compared to the S8. The S8 feels very premium to me when compared to S7.
We both have obvious biases -- not brand loyalty/bias but subconscious biases are altering our perceptions and leading us to different observations.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/9to5go...-support-bixby-voice-assistant-at-launch/amp/
Bixby won't be ready in time for the launch next week. This gives me pause. Not because I care about Bixby but if a feature Sammy has spent so much time touting and even dedicated hardware to on the device isn't ready, what else are they rushing on the phone?
Had my first feel up of the S8 and S8+ in a store today. To my surprise it left me rather unimpressed. First impression: plasticky. I know it's glass, but I still didn't get a feeling of great build quality.
Then the screen. The screen to bezel ratio is obviously impressive, but I didn't feel that these screens were giving me any more truly usable real estate over my 7 Plus. The S8 in theory has a similar screen area to the 7 Plus, but it looked clearly smaller. The 5.8" diagonal measure in such a small footprint had me drooling until I held the actual phone. Now I see the difference between the aspect ratios.
Even the S8+ screen didn't feel substantially bigger than that of my 7 Plus. The extra area at the top and bottom just didn't wow me. And it felt like I had to reach down to the home button in an uncomfortable way. The home button by the way didn't have a nice haptic vibration, it felt mushy compared to that of the 7 Plus.
Then the colour accuracy... Basic mode is what I always use, to get those more realistic colours. But the white point on that one is too red and as I understand can't be adjusted. Adaptive mode features the manual RGB adjustment but there the colours are too saturated for me overall, not sure if it can be brought to the same levels as the Basic mode but I wasn't able to achieve that in the store.
And the curvature of the screen took me by surprise. Somehow I thought the curve would be a lot sharper than it is. I still got that annoying feeling of the edges of the screen actually being kind of a transparent bezel...
So yeah. I'm pretty disappointed. Of course things change a lot as you really begin to use a phone. But the things I mention above are too significant for me to be able to get used to them, I think.
Still hoping for the Note 8 to blow me away. But for the moment, I suddenly like my 7 Plus a whole lot more. Surprisingly the feel in the hand is a big part of that, the 7 Plus just feels so much more well built and reliable. And neither the S8 nor S8+ made me feel that I'm missing out on screen size with my 7 Plus.
My optimal phone I think would be a blown up S7, because that one felt truly great to hold. And it had just the right curvature to the screen glass, i.e. essentially just 2D glass like on the iPhone.
So, I guess let's see what August/September brings...
It doesn't actually take courage or bravery to NOT do something.Hey. I give them credit at least for having the balls to pull it if it's not ready. Maybe they learned their lesson from previous issues.
It doesn't actually take courage or bravery to NOT do something.
It would be braver (if fool hardy) to stick by your guns and launch with it.
That wasn't 'bravery' to stop selling the Note 7, it was necessity. They had no choice but to recall.Like they did the Note 7 with an explosive battery?
To be fair .... Apple made me wait for portrait mode for a good moment on my iPhone 7+. And that was heavily advertised.