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Tsepz

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Incredible Data Speeds by the Galaxy S9, absolutely trounced the competition both in Download and Upload.
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spinedoc77

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Incredible Data Speeds by the Galaxy S9, absolutely trounced the competition both in Download and Upload.
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Wow, the better to download... err...umm what was it that I needed to download on a mobile phone that requires these kinds of speeds again?
 

Tsepz

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Wow, the better to download... err...umm what was it that I needed to download on a mobile phone that requires these kinds of speeds again?
Don't know about you, but anyone wanting to make more use of Cloud Storage for large Images and 4K videos would see great benefits from this. I mean we are now dealing with phones with 4K@60FPS video.

But hey, who needs faster data speeds until Apple does them, correct? :)
 

spinedoc77

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Don't know about you, but anyone wanting to make more use of Cloud Storage for large Images and 4K videos would see great benefits from this. I mean we are now dealing with phones with 4K@60FPS video.

But hey, who needs faster data speeds until Apple does them, correct? :)

That's true, streaming your own 4k videos takes up a lot of bandwidth. There should be an option to downsize the video resolution to save bandwidth, but I don't think anything like that exists.
 

Macalicious2011

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I am assuming you are talking about a UK deal. Who was that with? My SIM contract ends soon.
I'm with EE. I saw a good offer on the website for 20GB at £20/month and called EE. The agent said he can beat the deal at 30GB at £16 and I said fine. More than often, the best deals are offered over the phone and are sometime promotional, so call around.

There's a lot of money to be saved by buying a refurbished or slightly used phone and pairing it with a SIM only plan.
 
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spinedoc77

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Data is dirt cheap. I am on a SIM only plan with 30GB and unlimited texts/calls for just £16/month.

It's a lot more expensive here in the states. But even at your prices, how fast would 30gb go with the speeds posted on these new phones? I think all your data could easily be used up in minutes.
 

Macalicious2011

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It's a lot more expensive here in the states. But even at your prices, how fast would 30gb go with the speeds posted on these new phones? I think all your data could easily be used up in minutes.

They are peak speeds you are more likely to hit over WiFi. Over 4G, reception would have to be perfect and transmitting sever capable of sending packets at those speeds.
 

Applemaniac7

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Wow, the better to download... err...umm what was it that I needed to download on a mobile phone that requires these kinds of speeds again?
This wins the weekly award of silly post of the week. Why bother with 3g, 4g, broadband etc.. Why does speed matter in computing terms at all eh.. I'm thinking you may be in line for the annual award!!
 

spinedoc77

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This wins the weekly award of silly post of the week. Why bother with 3g, 4g, broadband etc.. Why does speed matter in computing terms at all eh.. I'm thinking you may be in line for the annual award!!

Nah, let me go ahead and officially say the reward belongs on your side, congratulations you've been bumped up to the prestigious lifetime award. While I see that there may be some niche use for having ultra fast download speeds on a phone, such as a prior example of streaming 4k videos from your cloud storage, I still fail to see what the other 99% of consumers will do with such fast download speeds. Especially in the US where data costs are exorbitant and there is no such thing as an unlimited plan. Seriously, what are you downloading that you need that much speed?

The S9 is theoretically capable of 1.2Gbps speeds, of course as someone else pointed out the obvious that's dependent on your network/carrier capability, signal, etc. But let's just say you live in Samsung's dream world and you get the full 1.2Gbps download speeds. 1.2Gb = .15GB, so you are theoretically downloading at .15GB/second, or 9GB/minute. Which means my measly 20GB data plan would be spent in a hair over 2 minutes. In actuality I was being generous by saying streaming 4k from a cloud server made sense, but in reality 4k video (Netflix/Apple) only requires 25Mbps (that's M not G) (.025Gbps), although I'm sure there is a lot of compression there. But I really doubt most cloud services would actually stream out at 1.2Gbps anyway, even if it was needed.

The truly silly parts about this is that 1) you are never going to get even close to that theoretical download speed, so the advertising is a bit disingenuous and 2) if you do, you are going to suck up your entire data plan in minutes, if not seconds. But just to play devil's advocate, if you had truly unlimited data, like your ISP could truly care less if you were downloading 9GB/minute and they let you get away with it on a regular basis. WTF are you downloading onto a little 6" screen with at most maybe 500GB of storage (256GB main + 256GB miniSD card)?!? I don't think a 4k movie is more than 50GB or so, but more likely you would want a 1080P movie at around 10GB. I suppose you could save the 4k movie on your phone and watch it later connected to your 4k TV.

I have said before that a possibility may be if you are using this in place of your home network by tethering your PC's to it, I'm not sure if latency and such things are issues but I do appreciate that may definitely be a valid reason for this, but it just seems a hell of a lot cheaper to just pay the $80 or so per month to get a good 400Mbps cable connection, keeping in mind that home connections are much more lenient about "unlimited" than mobile carriers are. I don't know, what else? Torrenting on the subway ride home? Downloading a PC game crossing the street to upload to your home PC later?

Also keep in mind that I'm not necessarily laughing at the high download speeds, but more so at Samsung's advertising that there speed is faster. Yeah yeah I made a dumb joke without any qualifying information, sue me. In that Ookla test that everyone is referencing the S9 was 37% faster than my iPhone X, woohoo? It just seems like Samsung is playing on the ignorance of the average consumer who might think "Wow, 37% faster download speeds, let me run over and buy that S9 right away. Oh yeah, my email downloads .00000000000000000000000000000001387 seconds faster, sweet!!" But in reality that means the iPhone X theoretically can download at 0.75Gbps, which would easily take all those niche scenarios when someone would actually need that kind of speed and do just fine with them. So maybe my question isn't necessarily why do you need such high download speeds, but maybe why do you need 37% faster download speeds?

Although in relation to the download speeds Samsung says: "This summer, consumers are going to be on the road, at the beach, and relying on their phones more than ever, but without the latest and fastest network technology that’s available in the Galaxy S9 and S9+, their phones may quite literally slow them down.” Which means that gosh darn it, I got an iPhone X so instead of being at the beach able to download 9GB/minute I can only download 5.67GB/minute, "Honey, can you tell me again why the F you made me buy this slow iPhone?!?!?"
 

Applemaniac7

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Nah, let me go ahead and officially say the reward belongs on your side, congratulations you've been bumped up to the prestigious lifetime award. While I see that there may be some niche use for having ultra fast download speeds on a phone, such as a prior example of streaming 4k videos from your cloud storage, I still fail to see what the other 99% of consumers will do with such fast download speeds. Especially in the US where data costs are exorbitant and there is no such thing as an unlimited plan. Seriously, what are you downloading that you need that much speed?

The S9 is theoretically capable of 1.2Gbps speeds, of course as someone else pointed out the obvious that's dependent on your network/carrier capability, signal, etc. But let's just say you live in Samsung's dream world and you get the full 1.2Gbps download speeds. 1.2Gb = .15GB, so you are theoretically downloading at .15GB/second, or 9GB/minute. Which means my measly 20GB data plan would be spent in a hair over 2 minutes. In actuality I was being generous by saying streaming 4k from a cloud server made sense, but in reality 4k video (Netflix/Apple) only requires 25Mbps (that's M not G) (.025Gbps), although I'm sure there is a lot of compression there. But I really doubt most cloud services would actually stream out at 1.2Gbps anyway, even if it was needed.

The truly silly parts about this is that 1) you are never going to get even close to that theoretical download speed, so the advertising is a bit disingenuous and 2) if you do, you are going to suck up your entire data plan in minutes, if not seconds. But just to play devil's advocate, if you had truly unlimited data, like your ISP could truly care less if you were downloading 9GB/minute and they let you get away with it on a regular basis. WTF are you downloading onto a little 6" screen with at most maybe 500GB of storage (256GB main + 256GB miniSD card)?!? I don't think a 4k movie is more than 50GB or so, but more likely you would want a 1080P movie at around 10GB. I suppose you could save the 4k movie on your phone and watch it later connected to your 4k TV.

I have said before that a possibility may be if you are using this in place of your home network by tethering your PC's to it, I'm not sure if latency and such things are issues but I do appreciate that may definitely be a valid reason for this, but it just seems a hell of a lot cheaper to just pay the $80 or so per month to get a good 400Mbps cable connection, keeping in mind that home connections are much more lenient about "unlimited" than mobile carriers are. I don't know, what else? Torrenting on the subway ride home? Downloading a PC game crossing the street to upload to your home PC later?

Also keep in mind that I'm not necessarily laughing at the high download speeds, but more so at Samsung's advertising that there speed is faster. Yeah yeah I made a dumb joke without any qualifying information, sue me. In that Ookla test that everyone is referencing the S9 was 37% faster than my iPhone X, woohoo? It just seems like Samsung is playing on the ignorance of the average consumer who might think "Wow, 37% faster download speeds, let me run over and buy that S9 right away. Oh yeah, my email downloads .00000000000000000000000000000001387 seconds faster, sweet!!" But in reality that means the iPhone X theoretically can download at 0.75Gbps, which would easily take all those niche scenarios when someone would actually need that kind of speed and do just fine with them. So maybe my question isn't necessarily why do you need such high download speeds, but maybe why do you need 37% faster download speeds?

Although in relation to the download speeds Samsung says: "This summer, consumers are going to be on the road, at the beach, and relying on their phones more than ever, but without the latest and fastest network technology that’s available in the Galaxy S9 and S9+, their phones may quite literally slow them down.” Which means that gosh darn it, I got an iPhone X so instead of being at the beach able to download 9GB/minute I can only download 5.67GB/minute, "Honey, can you tell me again why the F you made me buy this slow iPhone?!?!?"
Jeez. Someone's nerve has just been touched... if i realised you were that sensitive mate I'd had stayed well clear... I can only apologise.... ps. I only read 5 words of your overly long winded post then got.bored, soz...
 
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michael9891

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It's a lot more expensive here in the states. But even at your prices, how fast would 30gb go with the speeds posted on these new phones? I think all your data could easily be used up in minutes.

Don't quite get this reasoning. Just because you download something more quickly, doesn't mean you're automatically going to download tons more than you would with slower speeds. And to suggest someone would use 30gb in minutes is obsurd.
 

spinedoc77

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Don't quite get this reasoning. Just because you download something more quickly, doesn't mean you're automatically going to download tons more than you would with slower speeds. And to suggest someone would use 30gb in minutes is obsurd.

No, but it means you are going to go through that data a LOT faster, unless you meter yourself, depending on what you are doing. You do understand that sustaining these speeds actually means you are going through data? Sorry, just seemed obvious, but maybe not. I don't necessarily disagree, I was just using the data as an example, but the speed is useless unless you actually have data being used. Whether it's downloading a large file, streaming content, etc. In order for these speeds to actually be useful there needs to be a function that it fulfills.

As for using 30gb in minutes, it's only absurd until you do the kindergarten math. It's not rocket science, if you can download 9gb in a minute. Would someone actually do this? Well isn't that the entire point? You either are going to use these insane speeds and go through all your data, or you aren't going to use them and never needed them. Hence my example if I actually utilized the full speed, it would only last me a little over 2 minutes. But once again it's kind of a convoluted issue because I don't really know the application. Someone may very well bring up something and then having this kind of download speed will make perfect sense to me.
 
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torana355

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I cant believe people are actually saying the faster data speeds mean nothing. I remember when i first moved from dialup internet to broadband thinking i would never need anything faster, guess what, i'm on a 100mb/s down and 40mb/s up plan now and i wish i could get a faster service. Files are getting bigger everyday and this calls for faster data speeds. In the mobile space as faster data speeds become available it opens up new opportunities for moving more of our everyday workflows to a completely mobile solution. Not to mention where the better quality radio really comes into its own in bad reception areas. Great work Samsung!
 
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sunking101

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We use our phones tethered to WiFi routers a lot of the time, dare I say the majority of the time, so bring on these faster speeds....
 

spinedoc77

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I cant believe people are actually saying the faster data speeds mean nothing. I remember when i first moved from dialup internet to broadband thinking i would never need anything faster, guess what, i'm on a 100mb/s down and 40mb/s up plan now and i wish i could get a faster service. Files are getting bigger everyday and this calls for faster data speeds. In the mobile space as faster data speeds become available it opens up new opportunities for moving more of our everyday workflows to a completely mobile solution. Not to mention where the better quality radio really comes into its own in bad reception areas. Great work Samsung!

No one is saying that faster data speeds mean nothing. But I'm curious, what exactly would you use 1.2Gbps on your phone for? Genuinely curious.
 

torana355

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No one is saying that faster data speeds mean nothing. But I'm curious, what exactly would you use 1.2Gbps on your phone for? Genuinely curious.
Its more about moving forward, as mobile devices become capable of such speeds it opens up more possibilities. You are right as it stands i don't need 1.2gbps, however Cloud computing is the future and those speeds are going to be the norm sooner rather then later.
 
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Klyster

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I cant believe people are actually saying the faster data speeds mean nothing. I remember when i first moved from dialup internet to broadband thinking i would never need anything faster, guess what, i'm on a 100mb/s down and 40mb/s up plan now and i wish i could get a faster service. Files are getting bigger everyday and this calls for faster data speeds. In the mobile space as faster data speeds become available it opens up new opportunities for moving more of our everyday workflows to a completely mobile solution. Not to mention where the better quality radio really comes into its own in bad reception areas. Great work Samsung!
I'm contemplating moving to 900/400, its only an extra $25 a month here.
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No one is saying that faster data speeds mean nothing. But I'm curious, what exactly would you use 1.2Gbps on your phone for? Genuinely curious.
It would certainly make a restore a bit quicker if you were out and about and relied on the cloud.
I get what you're saying, I'm lucky to have heaps of data available, I dont have to think about usage. My phone hasn't been on wifi for a long time.
I remember when I first got cable internet, fast as heck for the time but a 6GB monthly cap, I think I burnt through the 6GB in a day or two lol.
 
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LIVEFRMNYC

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Wow, the better to download... err...umm what was it that I needed to download on a mobile phone that requires these kinds of speeds again?

It certainly matters if you're on a slower network that only pushes out 3-5mbps. I travel a lot and encounter slower networks often.
 

spinedoc77

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Its more about moving forward, as mobile devices become capable of such speeds it opens up more possibilities. You are right as it stands i don't need 1.2gbps, however Cloud computing is the future and those speeds are going to be the norm sooner rather then later.

Even so, moving forward what would you anticipate needing 1.2Gbps speed on a phone for? Higher video st
It certainly matters if you're on a slower network that only pushes out 3-5mbps. I travel a lot and encounter slower networks often.

But does it truly matter if you get the full2.1GBP? Moving forward and anticipating future service and streaming, your phone will still KEEP the same limitations it has today. By the time 1.2Gps is ubiquitous, you are going to be on the galaxy s15. I suppose it's reasonable to have a "future proof" phone, but that usually goes badly. Hardware and standards change frequently, so your S9 might not be able to do it in the future anyway.

In terms of higher video, 1.2Gps is way too fast. Netflix/Apple state 25Mbps of throughput for 4k streaming. No major oem (or any to 4k streaming service),have mainstream phones with 4k screen yet for or for the forseeable future, which makes it a moot point anyhow. I doubt we will see 4k phones for 23 years if ever.
 

yui4

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Anybody from the uk have a link to the upgrade program for s9? I can’t find it on Samsung website, only the PayPal option for credit
 

Zaft

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I cant believe people are actually saying the faster data speeds mean nothing. I remember when i first moved from dialup internet to broadband thinking i would never need anything faster, guess what, i'm on a 100mb/s down and 40mb/s up plan now and i wish i could get a faster service. Files are getting bigger everyday and this calls for faster data speeds. In the mobile space as faster data speeds become available it opens up new opportunities for moving more of our everyday workflows to a completely mobile solution. Not to mention where the better quality radio really comes into its own in bad reception areas. Great work Samsung!
its the law of diminishing returns.
 
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