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Oohara

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This Android vs iOS thing is getting silly.

Yes, and that's really all it's about at this point - Android vs iOS. This squabble contains nothing specific about the Note 4 vs iPhone 6 anymore.

This is nothing but the eternal beating of the dead horse, which as usual leads absolutely nowhere as long as people disregard the fact that we all have different preferences and needs, and try to make their personal preference out as the "best" choice.

Man, do I wish we had an Android vs iOS megathread where all these pointless bickering posts could be dumped as soon as they show up to derail yet another thread.
 

teknikal90

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I find that situations that need work done on a spreadsheet or need to be illustrated best be done on an actual laptop or desktop. These usually don't need an immediate response and even if you do it on a smartphone, it takes a bit of effort and usually the quality looks half assed or there is a higher margin of error.

If it's something really that important, I'll pull my laptop out and do it. If it's shooting off a quick email, or "yes/no" response then I'd do it on a mobile device. It irritates the hell out of me when I get screwed up looking spreadsheets, word documents that lose their formats, or nasty looking screenshots with squiggly marks that are incomprehensible from my employees because I have to either call and ask them to explain, or I have to clean them up myself if I needed to escalate to people above me.

Again, everyone is different. This Android vs iOS thing is getting silly.

it's not getting silly though. that's the point of these forums, especially this subforum, to explain the pros and cons and limitations of each.

and true. 70%-80% of the time, a response requires the laptop getting pulled out.
but wouldnt it be great if you dont have to do that?
all im saying.

and right now, android can, ios cannot.

EDIT: okay... so linking back to note vs. iphone 6 +.... note can, iphone 6 + cannot.
 

I7guy

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no.... he's saying you cant reply to an email and attach an attachment other than pictures.

very crucial feature IMO.

It's not crucial to me. I start a new email with;

In consideration of the email dated: mm/dd/yy Tim Cook asked for a distribution of IOS 8 adoption rates: please see attached spreadsheet.

Or I'll just cut and paste the text.
 

EmmaBeth

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OP might want to check out this review.

Good review--thanks for that. She's pretty positive overall, but does point out that it's not flawless. I like honesty in an in-depth review.

The new Note 4 is on my desk, ready to be activated! Should have time a little later today. I plan on using it as heavily as possible over the next week in particular, to get a feel for if I'm going to love it or be frustrated by it. I'm not someone who likes dealing with returning items, but I'm going to live with this for two years, so I need to be sure.

Even if it's not really Note 4/iPhone specific, I have sort of been following the conversation about e-mail attachments, as I play music and often trade rough practice MP3s back and forth with friends. I'm beginning to understand why the one guy with an iPhone has trouble contributing to on-going e-mail threads. It's a limitation I hadn't known about. I'm tech savvy enough I'm sure I could find and get used to work arounds (copying and pasting, or whatever), but it's still nice to know.
 

I7guy

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I find that situations that need work done on a spreadsheet or need to be illustrated best be done on an actual laptop or desktop. These usually don't need an immediate response and even if you do it on a smartphone, it takes a bit of effort and usually the quality looks half assed or there is a higher margin of error.

If it's something really that important, I'll pull my laptop out and do it. If it's shooting off a quick email, or "yes/no" response then I'd do it on a mobile device. It irritates the hell out of me when I get screwed up looking spreadsheets, word documents that lose their formats, or nasty looking screenshots with squiggly marks that are incomprehensible from my employees because I have to either call and ask them to explain, or I have to clean them up myself if I needed to escalate to people above me.

Again, everyone is different. This Android vs iOS thing is getting silly.

This is really the correct answer. I wouldnt dare circulate a new document created on any phone to senior mgmt (cfo, ceo). Way too much risk. Maybe some in here have the bravado to do that, not me. Way too much detail in terms of highly formatted information.

Considering at least here iphone is the dominant device, everybody understands what the iPhone can do. Nobody gives a darn about any supposed limitation. And I suspect it's that way in any company where the ceo uses an iPhone.
 

soulreaver99

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and right now, android can, ios cannot.

Android can half-ass. iOS doesn't even bother. It's up to the user to decide how they want to approach it :p

But to get back on topic, both the Note 4 and iPhone 6+ come very close in what they do and when people ask which one I prefer the most... my best answer is... if I wanted a reliable simple smartphone with a big screen or rely highly invested in iOS then I'd go for the iPhone 6+. If I wanted a big phone with the functions of stylus with everything but kitchen sink features - then the Note 6 is perfect :)
 

The-Real-Deal82

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Jan 17, 2013
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Has the Note 4 won yet? The OP chose it, good luck with your choice btw ;)

Is the iPhone 6 Plus officially the loser and we can pump our fists in the air yet? Sorry just making a little fun of the Android vs IPhone tripe that we always end up discussing lol. I don't think the OP can go wrong with the Note. It sounds like it was the obvious choice judging by her needs. You're probably scratching your heads in disbelief that an iPhone user could possibly admit that, but it's true. We choose what we like using best. There is no competition in my eyes because we pick the best phones out there in our opinions. Enjoy the Note and good luck to those trying to send strange files in emails. :)
 

EmmaBeth

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I think the whole discussion should be more horses for courses than One Phone to Rule Them All. ;)
 

teknikal90

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This is really the correct answer. I wouldnt dare circulate a new document created on any phone to senior mgmt (cfo, ceo). Way too much risk. Maybe some in here have the bravado to do that, not me. Way too much detail in terms of highly formatted information.

Considering at least here iphone is the dominant device, everybody understands what the iPhone can do. Nobody gives a darn about any supposed limitation. And I suspect it's that way in any company where the ceo uses an iPhone.

i think for me its not so much creation, its file management. ie. files already created on my laptop that i want to quickly forward on my phone.
 

MRU

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Aug 23, 2005
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Good review--thanks for that. She's pretty positive overall, but does point out that it's not flawless. I like honesty in an in-depth review.

The new Note 4 is on my desk, ready to be activated! Should have time a little later today. I plan on using it as heavily as possible over the next week in particular, to get a feel for if I'm going to love it or be frustrated by it. I'm not someone who likes dealing with returning items, but I'm going to live with this for two years, so I need to be sure.

Even if it's not really Note 4/iPhone specific, I have sort of been following the conversation about e-mail attachments, as I play music and often trade rough practice MP3s back and forth with friends. I'm beginning to understand why the one guy with an iPhone has trouble contributing to on-going e-mail threads. It's a limitation I hadn't known about. I'm tech savvy enough I'm sure I could find and get used to work arounds (copying and pasting, or whatever), but it's still nice to know.


Enjoy Emma

and I apologise for the way your thread was derailed by the naughty kiddies in the school yard, even though I predicted this would follow.

If you have any problems with your Note 4 or if you need any help acclimatising please do not hesitate to post and I'm sure a solution will be proffered.

All the best and Happy Xmas to you.
 

jamezr

macrumors P6
Aug 7, 2011
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Good review--thanks for that. She's pretty positive overall, but does point out that it's not flawless. I like honesty in an in-depth review.

The new Note 4 is on my desk, ready to be activated! Should have time a little later today. I plan on using it as heavily as possible over the next week in particular, to get a feel for if I'm going to love it or be frustrated by it. I'm not someone who likes dealing with returning items, but I'm going to live with this for two years, so I need to be sure.

Even if it's not really Note 4/iPhone specific, I have sort of been following the conversation about e-mail attachments, as I play music and often trade rough practice MP3s back and forth with friends. I'm beginning to understand why the one guy with an iPhone has trouble contributing to on-going e-mail threads. It's a limitation I hadn't known about. I'm tech savvy enough I'm sure I could find and get used to work arounds (copying and pasting, or whatever), but it's still nice to know.
You can't go wrong with either phone! Just know they both have limitations.
Have fun and lets us know how it goes.
 

gotluck

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Dec 8, 2011
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i think for me its not so much creation, its file management. ie. files already created on my laptop that i want to quickly forward on my phone.

Yes for me is not about creation. Clients ask for file while I'm on field, I attach file from my cloud storage into reply, done.

No links, normal attachment into a normal reply

Been waiting for this since I bought an iPhone 4
 

cdmoore74

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Jun 24, 2010
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There are a lot of people who are tech junkies; including me. But it's not all about phone tech and wearables. I could care less about an immersive experience...I want a boring old reliable phone, like the iphone....one that just works.

I find this statement strange. A tech junkie that wants old, reliable and boring is not a tech junkie. I will not even call you a power user if that’s the case.
To me a tech junkie wants the fastest and most feature packed user experience money can buy. They want all the bells and whistles and they don’t want compromise. That same person is never really happy with the current experience and is thinking ahead to what’s coming out next. The iPhone may be fast but that’s because it never gets pushed hard enough. Gear VR pushes the Note 4 very hard. And because it pushes it hard I look forward to higher resolutions, faster more efficient cpu’s and more ram for Note 5.
If mobile VR takes off we will see huge pushes across the board except from Apple. Apple just wants to play it old and reliable. Not saying that VR is ready for primetime but Samsung is pushing the envelope to get us there. I may be in the minority when it comes to VR but it’s a new and exciting field that has potential. I find it amazing that we can now use our phones to transform user experience. Non-techies will never understand this.
 

Switchback666

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Nov 16, 2012
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I used to have a Note 3 and it was a great phone (the best I had before current) right now I have a 6 plus and it's exactly what I wanted :) a bigger iPhone and nothing more.

For someone that have used android phone for the past years imo ios will feel like a downgrade, if you can I suggest check in the apple store regarding returns that way you can get it and return it if you don't like it .
 

mib1800

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It's not crucial to me. I start a new email with;

In consideration of the email dated: mm/dd/yy Tim Cook asked for a distribution of IOS 8 adoption rates: please see attached spreadsheet.

Or I'll just cut and paste the text.

Well it doesn't just work. You got sucked into believing blindly the "it just works" b s from apple.
 

I7guy

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I find this statement strange. A tech junkie that wants old, reliable and boring is not a tech junkie. I will not even call you a power user if that’s the case.
To me a tech junkie wants the fastest and most feature packed user experience money can buy. They want all the bells and whistles and they don’t want compromise. That same person is never really happy with the current experience and is thinking ahead to what’s coming out next. The iPhone may be fast but that’s because it never gets pushed hard enough. Gear VR pushes the Note 4 very hard. And because it pushes it hard I look forward to higher resolutions, faster more efficient cpu’s and more ram for Note 5.
If mobile VR takes off we will see huge pushes across the board except from Apple. Apple just wants to play it old and reliable. Not saying that VR is ready for primetime but Samsung is pushing the envelope to get us there. I may be in the minority when it comes to VR but it’s a new and exciting field that has potential. I find it amazing that we can now use our phones to transform user experience. Non-techies will never understand this.

There's new tech all over the place; not just phones. We have different yardsticks about where we choose to spend our time (and money) with tech.

Well it doesn't just work. You got sucked into believing blindly the "it just works" b s from apple.

It clearly works for me and I put my money where my mouth is with a new iphone. (not to mention the 10's of millions of people who did same, and for those poor souls who still want said device, they are still hard to come by) There's a misconception that more specs and a different way of working make for a better user experience. Not so. There are literally hundreds of posts across multiple threads carrying this type of idiotic theme and so far, not one of them has managed to convince anybody of anything other than needless bickering in these threads.

Smiley face or not.
 

vgamedude

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Dec 10, 2013
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I was deciding between the note 4, nexus 6 and iPhone 6+. If the nexus 6 wasn't so pathetically launched I would already have had one, but as it stands I ended up with the iPhone 6+.

I saw it this way.

I'm use to iOS. Everyone I know has iPhones. The nexus 6 was impossible for me to order, also the battery life didn't seem so good and the display was prone to burn in, the note is Samsung and I didn't known if I wanted dat bloat. So I just went with the iPhone.

Here's hoping I don't regret it! The RAM is already a pain in the *** though.
 

Fernandez21

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Jun 16, 2010
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I do realize that. That is one of my biggest gripes when I switch between my N4 and 6+. I can upload the songs to dropbox and send a link but it is not the same. There are little annoyances on both platforms. But email attachments are a big one on IOS.

There is an app called file app on the iPhone that will allow you to download and email any file from Dropbox.
 

mib1800

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There's new tech all over the place; not just phones. We have different yardsticks about where we choose to spend our time (and money) with tech.



It clearly works for me and I put my money where my mouth is with a new iphone. (not to mention the 10's of millions of people who did same, and for those poor souls who still want said device, they are still hard to come by) There's a misconception that more specs and a different way of working make for a better user experience. Not so. There are literally hundreds of posts across multiple threads carrying this type of idiotic theme and so far, not one of them has managed to convince anybody of anything other than needless bickering in these threads.

Smiley face or not.

Bottomline is you can only get by with workarounds etc with iPhone to bring it up to what a most basic email client should have. You can't convince anyone either that iphone has a better user experience than note4 through your "it just works" rhetoric.

There are other very clear cut cases where you need workarounds to get iphone to equal note4 in doing some tasks. If these are important then obviously the note4 gives a better user experience. I would offer that there are scenarios where the reverse is also true.
 

Technarchy

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May 21, 2012
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Bottomline is you can only get by with workarounds etc with iPhone to bring it up to what a most basic email client should have. You can't convince anyone either that iphone has a better user experience than note4 through your "it just works" rhetoric.

There are other very clear cut cases where you need workarounds to get iphone to equal note4 in doing some tasks. If these are important then obviously the note4 gives a better user experience. I would offer that there are scenarios where the reverse is also true.

The overall fluidity and cohesiveness of iOS is still better, but Apple makes you contort to get basic things done. Email attachments being an example. Or ring tones. Or sharing from one app to another. Being able to store and open just about anything from an SD or Dropbox is a huge advantage for the sake of simplicity and sanity.
 

mib1800

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The overall fluidity and cohesiveness of iOS is still better, but Apple makes you contort to get basic things done. Email attachments being an example. Or ring tones. Or sharing from one app to another. Being able to store and open just about anything from an SD or Dropbox is a huge advantage for the sake of simplicity and sanity.
I agree with you the fluidity of ios ui is better. However, when I tried 6+ at the store the animation is very lethargic making the overall speed feels slower than note4. On the 6+ I literally have to pause or slow down the screen taps and wait for the animation to finish.
 

MRU

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Samsung Note 4 or iPhone 6 Plus? Foot in Each Camp...

I agree with you the fluidity of ios ui is better. However, when I tried 6+ at the store the animation is very lethargic making the overall speed feels slower than note4. On the 6+ I literally have to pause or slow down the screen taps and wait for the animation to finish.


I hate animations on most devices. On Samsung's I always either turn off or go to 0.5x in developer settings.

On iOS I turn on reduce motion in settings. This makes the whole thing fly without silly zooming animations. This gives it same quickness as best of Android.

Sense 6 is surprisingly fast though with default animations and lollipop on my Moto X isn't too bad, but yeah Samsung and Apple by default are horrible.

Windows Phones needs the option to speed up or turn off its animations too, it is one of the slowest UI's (though always fluid) because of its animations.
 
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I7guy

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Bottomline is you can only get by with workarounds etc with iPhone to bring it up to what a most basic email client should have. You can't convince anyone either that iphone has a better user experience than note4 through your "it just works" rhetoric.

There are other very clear cut cases where you need workarounds to get iphone to equal note4 in doing some tasks. If these are important then obviously the note4 gives a better user experience. I would offer that there are scenarios where the reverse is also true.

I don't deal with attachments. I deal with high level emails. When I have to forward a document I can do so from company cloud.

I have a windows laptop so there are really no compromiss on my ability to do something. If I need to create a document on the fly I can do so on my laptop typing at 100 wpm. No compromises.

I find IOS to be a better overall user experience than android, which is why I took the plunge to Apple a year ago.

It's true IOS cannot attach file types not native to the o/s or app managed. It has never been an issue for me. I've also don't email mp3s although they should be alliwed to be airdropped as photos are.

Bottom line, get what works for you. I find Apple devices to look better, feel more polished from a hardware perspective and their software is more fluid than android. I'm a happy customer.

Each o/s has their pros and cons. What is an issue for you is either neutral or a plus for me.
 

robjulo

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Don't put yourself above the fray. When day to day ios shortcomings regarding how others use email were pointed out, you threw around words like "nonsense" and "nitpicking".


There are literally hundreds of posts across multiple threads carrying this type of idiotic theme and so far, not one of them has managed to convince anybody of anything other than needless bickering in these threads.

Smiley face or not.
 
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