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Samsung Note 8
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W/O a doubt, the Note 8 can do so much more and offers more value. However, it comes down to Android vs iOS. I am not even considering a Pixel 2 anymore after the Krakken update news. I rather have less features and long term stability than have something now and nothing down the road with Samsung support wise.
Can’t use swipe anywhere because right now it’s how you scroll through your notifications.
I’d be fine with an option to bypass the need to swipe if it meant it went straight to the home screen. I can pull down the notification shade if I need to see them.
And this isn’t directed specifically at you @jamezr but also to anyone with a Note8–how is unlocking using iris scanning handles? Can you raise to wake and it automatically unlock to the home screen?
The Pixel 2 XL also requires some interaction with the display even when I have smart lock enabled which drove me nuts. I had to tap the display to wake (2X?? can’t remember offhand) then swipe. If Samsung allows you to just raise your phone and it’ll unlock straight to the home screen, definitely an advantage over the competition.
I wish my Note 8 had raise to wake to be honest...to unlock with iris scanning. I also wish my iphone X had a FPS on the back where the logo is. Why can't the X display battery percentage? My 8 Plus does....
I understand your point, but wasn't the Pixel 2 supposed to get the KRACK patch in the November set? In addition, I wouldn't say that with Samsung there's zero support. It's true that they aren't typically the fastest to deliver updates, but they've been improving with their security update schedule during the last couple of years. Of course there's still room for improvement (like why on Earth did they decide to have September as an off month when that patch contained the BlueBorne fix), but seeing that security patches still roll out also for older models with at least somewhat decent schedule, I'm not that worried especially if Samsung keeps improving their security update delivery (Oreo and Project Treble should help too).
So even though iOS still has an update advantage, with Android slowly improving (and more and more components updating via the Google Play Services) and iOS software quality declining, I'm not completely sure about which would be in a better shape after three years of use anymore. For after all, the last couple of supported iOS versions for a device often feel like the hardware is not quite enough for the OS, but as a full iOS update is the only way to get security updates, users are too often faced with a dilemma when the only way to still remain secure would mean destroying the device's usability. In those cases the Android model with two full OS updates and security updates after that would actually be better. Of course if Apple decided to start offering security updates also to older iOS versions, they'd once again take a huge lead.
While I'm naturally annoyed about the fact that my S8+ hasn't been patched for KRACK yet, I'm not that worried as I can use a VPN in the meantime. BlueBorne was much worse in this regard, as there was no other workaround than disabling Bluetooth (i.e. goodbye to a lot of devices I use daily) or just taking a risk (no thanks, particularly when commuting in crowded trains).
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From his posts, to me it seems like Android just isn't for him.
I said it long ago that he should just get the iPhone X.
So to unlock with iris scanning you still have to wake the phone manually?
Battery percentage is available but only when you open control center. My guess is there just isn’t the space in the ears for it.
I use FPS and face unlock and trusted zones.
FPS is fastest, as I've said a few times before, I'll have the phone unlocked before I get a chance to look at it.
You press the power or home button, look at the iris scanner and you're in, very fast.
But you still have to engage with the phone to open/unlock it?
Everyone is bitching about having to swipe to unlock the iPhone but every other phone also requires some physical interaction on the users part.
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Samsung still provides updates for the Note 4, so not sure why you are that worried about having no support for the Note 8. What I've found lately with Apple is they slap the updates out quick, but their quality has gotten to where they need several attempts to get it right.
You can use Iris scanning in several ways. When the display is off.....I have mine setup to press on the home button and it will unlock the display using iris scanning.
i think there is enough room in the notch to display battery percentage if they just did the text and got rid of the battery icon
Yep. Be it a hard press at the bottom of the display or on the power button, but once it's awake the phone will unlock, no need to swipe or anything.
But you still have to press something to wake it. You’re pressing a button or the screen, I’m swiping the screen. A single physical interaction in both cases.
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And I’m swiping as I pull the phone out of my pocket. Same result.
Sorry, I’ve derailed the discussion enough—didn’t mean to take it off track like this. Thanks for the insight into the Note8 operation.
Do to not have to first wake the phone with FaceID and then swipe after the phone me recognises you?
With Iris all you need to do is wake and boom you're in if you have set it up to do that. One step less. Same goes for FPS.
Do to not have to first wake the phone with FaceID and then swipe after the phone me recognises you?
With Iris all you need to do is wake and boom you're in if you have set it up to do that. One step less. Same goes for FPS.
iPhone has raise to wake so I don’t have to press anything to wake it first. By the time the phone is in front of my face I’ve swiped and FaceID does its thing.
to be honest it does add a step....you still have to swipe to get to your home screen. FaceID is extremely fast for me.....but the swipe adds a step the FPS process does not have.
I can unlock my Note 8 and 8 plus faster with FPS.
Yes but you cant swipe till the Face ID does its thing. With the iris scanner you press the power button in your pocket then by the time you have the phone at your face its unlocked.
Won’t argue with this, FPS is slightly faster. I’m just personally not sweating the minuscule difference is all I’m saying. And in comparison to other biometric solutions it’s no more laborious.
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Not true—you can swipe before FaceID authenticates. It will then go straight to your home screen
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Still have to press something to wake the phone, don’t you? You have to on the Pixel 2.
The iPhone X has raise to wake, and also wakes if you look at it like you want to use it. So he's arguing that you don't have to press any power button for the display and Face ID to activate. Which is great if you just want to check the lock screen, but you would still need to physically swipe up to the home screen to use the phone. On the Note 8, we have AOD to check the status info that is also in the lock screen.
Other than that, if you are going to physically pick up any phone. Pressing a power or home button is not really an extra step to turn on the display. But it makes some sense with the iPhone when it's docked or lying on a table, because of the lack of AOD.
Also, with the Note 8, you can always use the "Okay Google" or "Hi Bixby" command to turn on the display without touching it. Would there be an actual reason to, without wanting something done? None that I can see.
For face unlock, yes, power button or touch home button.
FPS, other than touching the sensor, no. Very fast.
Last time I used it it didn't. I can't use that anymore though, I have Exchang Email setup on my Note8 so some Security Settings are greyed out, I use both Iris and FPS.
What I can do on my Note8 is set it to Unlock with FPS the moment I touch it, so it's really down to what is fastest.
Very true.
Guess it's a give and take in both.