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woozor1

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The only issue I have found on my note 8 is in the gallery when you click a photo it has a jittery animation to open it scrolling and everything else is fine in the gallery except when you click on a photo. Anyone else get this? pretty sure myne has been like that from day one.
 

Klyster

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The only issue I have found on my note 8 is in the gallery when you click a photo it has a jittery animation to open it scrolling and everything else is fine in the gallery except when you click on a photo. Anyone else get this? pretty sure myne has been like that from day one.
Not me. Have you tried turning off animations in developer options?
edit: just turned animations on and it didn't really make a difference.
 

tbayrgs

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The iPhone X has raise to wake, and also wakes if you look at it like you want to use it. So he's arguing that you don't have to press any power button for the display and Face ID to activate. Which is great if you just want to check the lock screen, but you would still need to physically swipe up to the home screen to use the phone. On the Note 8, we have AOD to check the status info that is also in the lock screen.

Other than that, if you are going to physically pick up any phone. Pressing a power or home button is not really an extra step to turn on the display. But it makes some sense with the iPhone when it's docked or lying on a table, because of the lack of AOD.

Also, with the Note 8, you can always use the "Okay Google" or "Hi Bixby" command to turn on the display without touching it. Would there be an actual reason to, without wanting something done? None that I can see.

Well summarized. FaceID is far from perfect and isn’t at this point some revolutionary new authentication method vs. other current options. I’m just commenting that i find it pretty seamless and no more inconvenient than any other current option. If Apple gave us an option to opt out of the swipe, it would be even better/faster. That’s all.
 

convergent

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I see so many comments on the iPhone X and Pixel 2 about lots of issues with their displays. The common conclusion, particularly in the X discussions is that this is just the way it is with OLED. Yet, I don't see anyone complaining about Note 8 displays on here, and mine is awesome. Any thoughts on why the difference in perspective? I would think there would be a lot of publicity on here about any Note 8 display woes.
 

LIVEFRMNYC

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Well summarized. FaceID is far from perfect and isn’t at this point some revolutionary new authentication method vs. other current options. I’m just commenting that i find it pretty seamless and no more inconvenient than any other current option. If Apple gave us an option to opt out of the swipe, it would be even better/faster. That’s all.

Yea, that's all it needs. Don't know why Apple didn't make it an option.

I see so many comments on the iPhone X and Pixel 2 about lots of issues with their displays. The common conclusion, particularly in the X discussions is that this is just the way it is with OLED. Yet, I don't see anyone complaining about Note 8 displays on here, and mine is awesome. Any thoughts on why the difference in perspective? I would think there would be a lot of publicity on here about any Note 8 display woes.

Apple is saying all the issues should be fixed with a software update. Whether it's only a software issue, time will tell.
 
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torana355

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I see so many comments on the iPhone X and Pixel 2 about lots of issues with their displays. The common conclusion, particularly in the X discussions is that this is just the way it is with OLED. Yet, I don't see anyone complaining about Note 8 displays on here, and mine is awesome. Any thoughts on why the difference in perspective? I would think there would be a lot of publicity on here about any Note 8 display woes.
Yeah I still stand by my opinion that all things counted the S8 and Note 8 have the best displays on the market.
 

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I see so many comments on the iPhone X and Pixel 2 about lots of issues with their displays. The common conclusion, particularly in the X discussions is that this is just the way it is with OLED. Yet, I don't see anyone complaining about Note 8 displays on here, and mine is awesome. Any thoughts on why the difference in perspective? I would think there would be a lot of publicity on here about any Note 8 display woes.

S8/note8 screens are newer generation than X. So they are manufactured using newer machines in newer factories with newer manufacturing processes giving better quality output.

Whereas X screens (looking at the sub pixels density 5.5mil vs 8.5mil for galaxy), most probably are manufactured together with those 1080p panels used in mid range Samsung.
 

Klyster

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I don't know about that mib1800, the pixels on the iPhone X look larger to me than everything prior the X, which would suggest a newer process.
I can't see that process being Apple specific as apart from the pixels, everything else looks identical, same pentile matrix, colour order is identical, they've just managed to print more pixel onto the substrate.
Probably would account for higher peak brightness maybe?
Personally, I think this will continue onto all Samsung flagships.
 

tbayrgs

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I see so many comments on the iPhone X and Pixel 2 about lots of issues with their displays. The common conclusion, particularly in the X discussions is that this is just the way it is with OLED. Yet, I don't see anyone complaining about Note 8 displays on here, and mine is awesome. Any thoughts on why the difference in perspective? I would think there would be a lot of publicity on here about any Note 8 display woes.

An Apple based forum is not the first place Note8 owners are likely to come to share their experiences. ;) There are maybe a couple dozen Note8 owners at most participating in this thread vs. the many thousands (or more) of iPhone owners who come here for Apple/iPhone info. Not really comparable sample sizes.
 
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I don't know about that mib1800, the pixels on the iPhone X look larger to me than everything prior the X, which would suggest a newer process.
I can't see that process being Apple specific as apart from the pixels, everything else looks identical, same pentile matrix, colour order is identical, they've just managed to print more pixel onto the substrate.
Probably would account for higher peak brightness maybe?
Personally, I think this will continue onto all Samsung flagships.

I am just looking at it from manufacturing point of view. 2K/ 1080p panels started earlier. So to built new curved s7/s8/n8 3.5K/1440p
panels, new machines/processes maybe required.

So what happened to those old machines? Retool it to make panels for apple. Yes, blue pixel on X is larger but that is easy to cater since the machine is printing at about same density (resolution) as the 1080p panel.
 

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An Apple based forum is not the first place Note8 owners are likely to come to share their experiences. ;) There are maybe a couple dozen Note8 owners at most participating in this thread vs. the many thousands (or more) of iPhone owners who come here for Apple/iPhone info. Not really comparable sample sizes.
There are way less Pixel 2 owners and plenty of reports on their display problems here. Given how many MR participants literally hate Samsung, IF there were problems I'm confident they would be publicized here. I've not seen any threads on display problems on the Android sites either. I may have missed them.
 

tbayrgs

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There are way less Pixel 2 owners and plenty of reports on their display problems here. Given how many MR participants literally hate Samsung, IF there were problems I'm confident they would be publicized here. I've not seen any threads on display problems on the Android sites either. I may have missed them.

Except that the Pixel 2 XL problems are not sporadic—they’re not defects per se but rather poor quality panels nearly across the board. The crappy colors and poor performance are near ubiquitous. These issues were perceived by the overwhelming majority of reviewers as well. I didn’t mind my Pixel 2 XL but I admittedly was turning a blind eye to examining my phone at that level of detail and very likely was suffering from the same problems everyone else had.

I don’t think anyone here could deny that the display on the Note8 is great. OLED displays are probably what Samsung does best—they’ve been using them longer than anyone in the mobile space and I’d expect them to have really high quality panels. It’s also pretty clear that there are some X owners having problems with their phones. This is Apple’s first go at designing an OLED and there are bound to be some growing pains. Anyone remeber the quality of Samung’s early OLEDs? They were absolute garbage.

Let’s have a little perspective too—a small sample on a tech blog site’s forum, against what are million of sold units, does not mean it’s a widespread issue...yet. We see similar types of threads regarding some type of issue(s) every single year. Let’s give it a bit more time before we declare this a catastrophe.
 

LIVEFRMNYC

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Except that the Pixel 2 XL problems are not sporadic—they’re not defects per se but rather poor quality panels nearly across the board. The crappy colors and poor performance are near ubiquitous. These issues were perceived by the overwhelming majority of reviewers as well. I didn’t mind my Pixel 2 XL but I admittedly was turning a blind eye to examining my phone at that level of detail and very likely was suffering from the same problems everyone else had.

I don’t think anyone here could deny that the display on the Note8 is great. OLED displays are probably what Samsung does best—they’ve been using them longer than anyone in the mobile space and I’d expect them to have really high quality panels. It’s also pretty clear that there are some X owners having problems with their phones. This is Apple’s first go at designing an OLED and there are bound to be some growing pains. Anyone remeber the quality of Samung’s early OLEDs? They were absolute garbage.

Let’s have a little perspective too—a small sample on a tech blog site’s forum, against what are million of sold units, does not mean it’s a widespread issue...yet. We see similar types of threads regarding some type of issue(s) every single year. Let’s give it a bit more time before we declare this a catastrophe.

And Samsung was chastised to hell about previous OLED displays, almost non-stop with the Galaxy S3. So Apple's iPhone X shouldn't be an exception. If quality issues of the OLED displays actually do exist, rather than it just being software issues, then Apple should absolutely be chastised for it.
 

Klyster

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Anyone remeber the quality of Samung’s early OLEDs? They were absolute garbage.
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They were considered the best or near best panels at the time, I've still got the original Galaxy S and owned all but the S6, Note 1&2 and S8.
The reason I was buying Samsung? The screens.
They were never garbage.
 

LIVEFRMNYC

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They were considered the best or near best panels at the time, I've still got the original Galaxy S and owned all but the S6, Note 1&2 and S8.
The reason I was buying Samsung? The screens.
They were never garbage.

The S3 display was pretty garbage. Even for that era. But I still liked it for the display size, cause it was at a time when most other phones had tiny displays in comparison.
 

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Except that the Pixel 2 XL problems are not sporadic—they’re not defects per se but rather poor quality panels nearly across the board. The crappy colors and poor performance are near ubiquitous. These issues were perceived by the overwhelming majority of reviewers as well. I didn’t mind my Pixel 2 XL but I admittedly was turning a blind eye to examining my phone at that level of detail and very likely was suffering from the same problems everyone else had.

I don’t think anyone here could deny that the display on the Note8 is great. OLED displays are probably what Samsung does best—they’ve been using them longer than anyone in the mobile space and I’d expect them to have really high quality panels. It’s also pretty clear that there are some X owners having problems with their phones. This is Apple’s first go at designing an OLED and there are bound to be some growing pains. Anyone remeber the quality of Samung’s early OLEDs? They were absolute garbage.

Let’s have a little perspective too—a small sample on a tech blog site’s forum, against what are million of sold units, does not mean it’s a widespread issue...yet. We see similar types of threads regarding some type of issue(s) every single year. Let’s give it a bit more time before we declare this a catastrophe.
I never said anything was a catastrophe. I'm just trying to get some perspective. Apple has come out and said that OLED displays have issues and is normal. I hear in the threads that buyers are hearing this from Apple staff and carrier store staff. But I also know that some Apple product buyers are overly picky nut jobs. I've been around MR for years. I have a sample of one Note 8 and I don't see any of the many issues that people are reporting about the X display. So trying to get perspective of if I'm lucky, blind, or if Samsung is just really better at this than others.
 
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Klyster

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The S3 display was pretty garbage. Even for that era. But I still liked it for the display size, cause it was at a time when most other phones had tiny displays in comparison.

https://www.cnet.com/uk/products/samsung-galaxy-s3/review/

http://www.trustedreviews.com/reviews/samsung-galaxy-s3

https://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9300_galaxy_s_iii-review-761p2.php

http://www.techradar.com/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/samsung-galaxy-s3-1078667/review

https://www.engadget.com/products/samsung/galaxy/s/iii/

I stopped looking but most reviews said it was a good if not great display....
 

LIVEFRMNYC

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All I know is at the time, the S3 was much dimmer at max brightness than it's competitors including the iPhone, and the pixels were very noticeable. It's wasn't unbearable, but definitely not a great display. It was the size of the display was praised the most.
 

Klyster

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So not really crap then.
Just a bit dimmer.

We all know what crap means.
"Gorgeous 4.8-inch 720p screen"
"Brilliant Super AMOLED HD display"
"Stunning HD Screen"

That doesn't sound like crap to me..
 

Tsepz

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I see so many comments on the iPhone X and Pixel 2 about lots of issues with their displays. The common conclusion, particularly in the X discussions is that this is just the way it is with OLED. Yet, I don't see anyone complaining about Note 8 displays on here, and mine is awesome. Any thoughts on why the difference in perspective? I would think there would be a lot of publicity on here about any Note 8 display woes.
It's because Samsung has had so many years of OLED implementation and calibration that they know exactly how to setup and put the best panels in the phone's.
 

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Iris Scanner > Password > Fingerprint Scanner > Windows Hello > Fake ID

Here's Fake ID defeated by a mask. Not even a full mask but a partial one is sufficient.


“Is this a practical security concern for most people? Not necessarily. Bkav is quick to acknowledge that the effort involved makes it difficult to compromise "normal users."

The company took 5 days to build a mask that worked.

Life can be hard when you don’t bother to read the fine print.
 
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