Samsung Note 8

[nviz22]

My feelings too.... I might get the 7s + instead to get camera improvements and wireless charging. But not spending $1200 on an iphone.

I do not mind paying up for the iPhone 8 if it works and I can get it on a comfortable payment plan. I was talking to a few friends at work regarding the new iPhone 8 pricing. If it doesn't have a good replacement for TouchID w/ FaceID, I am not buying it end of story. TouchID is tried and true enough to be around for awhile. Ok, no headphone jack is livable. But no TouchID to make Apple Pay a bit more annoying with a pin if the FaceID sucks? No thanks.

I rather get myself a LG G6 for $400 or less than pay $1000 towards the phone. I was running the math and doing a huge assumption. Last year, the SE netted people $420 off the price of the 7+ on a 2 year EIP. I assumed that price stays the same and my price would be $1070 after tax and before the $420. I would be on the hook for $650 between two years. I have $315 saved up from selling my S7 to a friend. That means another $335 would be spread across two years perhaps. I don't mind that because that's under $14 a month, however, the iPhone 8 better have that 24 month to 36 month longevity in terms of hardware because of planned obsolescence.

Meanwhile, I would be on the hook for $85 for the LG G6 right now including the $315 I sold my S7 for. If I wait patiently, that could become $35 instead. Plus I can keep my SE for a bit before I flip it for a profit. Decisions decisions.

I am waiting for the iPhone 8 to see what Apple offers and T-Mobile offers before committing to another Android flagship.

 

[epicrayban]

New rumor says the Note 8 will come with a pressure sensitive screen, not just a home button. It was only a matter of time before Android OEMs jumped on board with this. I wonder if (and how) that'll work with the S-pen.

 

[widgeteer]

New rumor says the Note 8 will come with a pressure sensitive screen, not just a home button. It was only a matter of time before Android OEMs jumped on board with this. I wonder if (and how) that'll work with the S-pen.

Bleh. 3D touch sucks. I've never been a fan of it for iOS. Most of the time unless an app forces me to use it (like opening a text on the lockscreen of my iPhone) I forget it's even there.

 

[epicrayban]

Bleh. 3D touch sucks. I've never been a fan of it for iOS. Most of the time unless an app forces me to use it (like opening a text on the lockscreen of my iPhone) I forget it's even there.

Same here. I find it pretty useless with one exception: moving the text cursor.

It's particularly weird on an Android device when the software has already solved the feature with long press. The only software solution that isn't as ideal is moving the cursor, but even that, Android has something for (minus the up/down movement). Nearly everything else that I can think of is done better with software. Instagram has peep and pop with a long press on the Android app. It's fast and simple. Instagram on iOS requires you to force press, which is less ideal. Anytime you're applying pressure to something non-tactile -- like a glass screen or the sides of a device ala HTC U11 -- you've created unnecessary complication with hardware. It literally costs Apple more money to produce screens for their iPhones because of the pressure-sensitive panel that has to go underneath. This isn't worth it when the software has it figured out already.

Even Android O will be adding more to long press. Look how fast and easy this is, without the need for hardware elements. The Verge demonstrates it right at the beginning of this video:

Of course, it was only a matter of time before Android OEMs began to adopt it. If it's true, it'll be interesting to see what pressure-sensitive features they'll add (cue Samsung gimmicks!). It'll be particularly interesting to see if/how it works with the S-Pen.

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

Bleh. 3D touch sucks. I've never been a fan of it for iOS. Most of the time unless an app forces me to use it (like opening a text on the lockscreen of my iPhone) I forget it's even there.

I do like 3D Touch for previewing links. That's mainly what I use it for.

 

[widgeteer]

I do like 3D Touch for previewing links. That's mainly what I use it for.

That actually is a nice feature, but I forget it's there. And for me the question is this: does force pressing the screen to trigger that enhance functionality over, say, simply being given the same option with a long press?

This is my biggest problem with 3D Touch. I don't know what it's solving. A long press that opens up an options tab would be far more useful to me, with a triggering action that's predictable each time I use it vs 3D touch which can be wonky every now and then.

 

[epicrayban]

I do like 3D Touch for previewing links. That's mainly what I use it for.

Don't you find your finger gets in the way of seeing the content that you're trying to preview? I know you can also slide up to freeze the preview screen and open up more options, but then that feels like a lot of steps for a preview.

Does anyone know if Android O has long press to preview links since they're adding long press on icons for more options?

That actually is a nice feature, but I forget it's there. And for me the question is this: does force pressing the screen to trigger that enhance functionality over, say, simply being given the same option with a long press?

This is my biggest problem with 3D Touch. I don't know what it's solving. A long press that opens up an options tab would be far more useful to me, with a triggering action that's predictable each time I use it vs 3D touch which can be wonky every now and then.

Feels like expensive and complicated hardware technology for very little gain.

While it's not surprising that Samsung is following up with their own pressure sensitive screen, I'm hoping it'll have way more uses. I'm counting on Samsung's software experience to do more with the technology.

 

[MRU]

Regardless of how one feels about 3d touch (we don't need this thread being turned into the same embarrassing mess the 3d touch thread demonstrated) the Note 8 will not have it.

The device is in mass production NOW, software is pretty much done if the device is going to be ready to buy by end of August after launch.

New tech that has not already leaked is simply not going to happen at this stage of the game.

 

[epicrayban]

Regardless of how one feels about 3d touch (we don't need this thread being turned into the same embarrassing mess the 3d touch thread demonstrated)...

Don't think it was going to head that way between myself and the two posters that were discussing it.

In any case, you're probably right about the rumor. This is pretty late to be hearing about it now.

 

[MRU]

Don't think it was going to head that way between myself and the two posters that were discussing it.

In any case, you're probably right about the rumor. This is pretty late to be hearing about it now.

Yeah but it would only be a matter of time before certain posters arrived

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

That actually is a nice feature, but I forget it's there. And for me the question is this: does force pressing the screen to trigger that enhance functionality over, say, simply being given the same option with a long press?

IMO, yes. Long Press usually brings up a menu. Also, with pop up previews using long press, you won't have that natural feel of control. With 3D touch, I press and have natural control how big I want the preview to be, and when I let go the preview is gone. Long Press is just more static and command driven. 3D touch is more natural and quicker. This is the similar with view photos.

Now with simple things like icon menus, Long press and 3D touch are basically equally good.

Don't you find your finger gets in the way of seeing the content that you're trying to preview? I know you can also slide up to freeze the preview screen and open up more options, but then that feels like a lot of steps for a preview.

I just mainly use it to quickly preview a link that I don't know what it is. I really don't interact with it.
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Regardless of how one feels about 3d touch (we don't need this thread being turned into the same embarrassing mess the 3d touch thread demonstrated) the Note 8 will not have it.

The device is in mass production NOW, software is pretty much done if the device is going to be ready to buy by end of August after launch.

New tech that has not already leaked is simply not going to happen at this stage of the game.

I think eithier the S9 or Note 9 for 3D touch. But definitely the Note 9 for finger scanner embedded in the display.

 

[mib1800]

New rumor says the Note 8 will come with a pressure sensitive screen, not just a home button. It was only a matter of time before Android OEMs jumped on board with this. I wonder if (and how) that'll work with the S-pen.

Thought the Note series screen has always been pressure sensitive. The harder you draw with s-pen, the thicker the line.

 

[Fernandez21]

Thought the Note series screen has always been pressure sensitive. The harder you draw with s-pen, the thicker the line.

I think that's in the pen not the screen.

 

[Shanghaichica]

I think that's in the pen not the screen.

No I think there is something in the display which is why the S pen doesn't work with the S series, or any other display.

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

No I think there is something in the display which is why the S pen doesn't work with the S series, or any other display.

You're talking about a digitizer.

 

[Shanghaichica]

You're talking about a digitizer.

Yes that's it.

 

[MRU]

Yes that's it.

Digitiser is an additional layer under the screen (well built into the panel), it acts in conjunction with the stylus. It (the digitiser) does not on its own judge pressure sensitivity. It acts as an electrostatic conduit to the active digitiser. It's the pen tip and the pressure applied to it that communicates with the digitiser and it extrapolates how much pressure is being applied.

It's very different from how 3D Touch technology works.

 

[jamezr]

We now know when pre orders start and when delivery day is...

Samsung will accept pre-orders for the Galaxy Note 8 from September 1 through September 10, according to a roadmap obtained by ETNews. The handset should start shipping shortly after in time for delivery on September 15.

https://www.technobuffalo.com/2017/...r-date/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

 

[epicrayban]

We now know when pre orders start and when delivery day is...



https://www.technobuffalo.com/2017/...r-date/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Moving fast.

 

[nfl46]

Ouch, Samsung is bold as hell with that release date. The Note 7 came out around August 19th last year, and the Note 8 will be September 15th. Samsung does realize that the iPhone 7S came out September 16th last year. So, Note 8 and iPhone 8 on the same day this year? Luckily, Apple doesn't release their first week sales anymore because it will save Samsung the embarrassment.

 

[epicrayban]

Ouch, Samsung is bold as hell with that release date. The Note 7 came out around August 19th last year, and the Note 8 will be September 15th. Samsung does realize that the iPhone 7S came out September 16th last year. So, Note 8 and iPhone 8 on the same day this year? Luckily, Apple doesn't release their first week sales anymore because it will save Samsung the embarrassment.

That's interesting. Didn't realize that date was so close to the previous iPhone release. I'm sure it isn't a coincidence or mistake. It's bold indeed.

I bet all my chips on Apple and the iPhone 8 being the bigger success.

I wonder if the presumably better availability of the Note 8 versus the predicted limited availability of the iPhone 8 will play any factor. Price, too.

 

[rhinosrcool]

I bet all my chips on Apple and the iPhone 8 being the bigger success.

That's a given. As much as I like Samsung, there's no way they're going to beat the iPhone.

 

[5105973]

I can't wait to see the reviews on the new camera setup. Dual Samsung phone camera lenses...this ought to be very interesting. Alas, I can't indulge in both Note 8 and iPhone 8 this time around and have to choose one over the other. I've already upgraded from S7 to S8 so that's it for me this year, for my Android line. My S8+ is serving me well, minus a few minor quibbles now and again.

 

[epicrayban]

What I can't wait to see is reviews ripping the Note 8 apart for that FPS placement. If that was a mistake on the S8 models, then it's an even bigger mistake on the Note 8.

 

[MRU]

What I can't wait to see is reviews ripping the Note 8 apart for that FPS placement. If that was a mistake on the S8 models, then it's an even bigger mistake on the Note 8.

Honestly given they have tinkered with the camera lens array, it's strange that they haven't rectified the one thing that was universally criticised .... I assume by S9 it will either be under the screen or at least in a better position on the back.

I know folks have suggested they couldn't put the fingerprint reader below the camera because of the battery, however given almost 'every' other OEM who has a fingerprint reader on the back below the camera sensor can do it and have similar batteries capacity wise, it's seems unfeasible to me that Samsung couldn't have solved this themselves too.