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Yankee512

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don't forget the group people who think they can afford buying a $1000 smartphone and do buy one (cause you know, gotta show that latest piece of tech to my friends!), but in real life they are just piling it up to all of their creditcard/bank debits.
Something Americans love: ''buy...buy...buy...buy....oeps! A huge debt I can not really afford''

Paying cash is nice. :)
 

BlueGoldAce

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I couldn't pass up the offer for previous note 7 owners. I picked up a cheap LG g4 for the trade in.

I have a Galaxy S8+. I really miss having a stylus, so I think I'll end up keeping the note 8.

But, if I don't, there is always the ability to flip the phone. Selling the phone and the free gear 360 camera will met a decent profit.

The only way I see that happening is if I somehow ended up preferring the s8+ (or consider them to be equal), or the pixel xl 2 blow away. In that case, I'll use the profit towards that.

The upcoming iPhone 8 will likely be the first iPhone since the 4s that I don't buy. $1000 for a phone is a lot. My iPad pro 12.9 (2nd) wasn't that much, and offers a whole different level of productivity. My dell XPS 9560 (512ssd, 16gbs ram, i7, Nvidia 1050) cost less than $1300 (sold tbMBP for it), and will meet my needs way beyond the time when iPhone 8/note8, etc becomes outdated.

Yes the note 8 is $920, but I got it for ~500. You won't score and iPhone 8 for that. The stylus really adds a level of functionality that has always made each interation of the note my favorite phone of said year, looking back.


Anyway, when you got buy a $1000 laptop, Mac, surface, or even the iPad to a lesser degree..... You can expect several years of us. When you consider the return on investment with these devices, the price becomes easier to justify and understand. You may fall behind on hardware tech, such as processing power and screen tech, but the side usually keeps pace.

I get that the modern smartphone is essential to our lives now. The hardware and allow these devices to last longer than they do. Hardware specific upgrades aside, the companies that make these phones do not support them on the software side as long as they should. Even Apple and Google are guilty of this, not just companies line Samsung. I think all the companies are getting better in the areas, but their commitment to older devices is not keeping pace with the price.

To put it short, $1000 is a lot to pay for piece of technology that is outdated quicker than most things we buy as a consumer.
 

epicrayban

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The battery will retain 95% effectiveness after two years of use, says Samsung. I believe the s8 battery was 95% effectiveness after one year of use.

Again, Samsung didn't just bounce back from the battery debacle. They're now the industry lead -- I don't know any other company making such promises for their batteries or having the same 8 step QC-ing process. Two years with 95% battery retention is seriously impressive.

Samsung, leading in yet another category.
 
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The battery will retain 95% effectiveness after two years of use, says Samsung. I believe the s8 battery was 95% effectiveness after one year of use.

Again, Samsung didn't just bounce back from the battery debacle. They're now the industry lead -- I don't know any other company making such promises for their batteries or having the same 8 step QC-ing process. Two years with 95% battery retention is seriously impressive.

Samsung, leading in yet another category.
THAT IS impressive. My frustration with my iPad's and iPhones is that the batteries seem to degrade pretty quickly toward the end of the first year of ownership. I'm already having to throw my iPhone 7 Plus on the charger before the day is over when I'm traveling.

This is looking like a nice buy for us former Note 7 users. But Android Central says they changed the Orchid Grey from less purple to more slate grey. :( Pooooooooo

In unrelated news I've been carrying my S8+ without a case down on the beach because sand likes to stick in cases and embed in crevices. So far, so good, it's doing well naked at the beach. :D
 

Yankee512

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THAT IS impressive. My frustration with my iPad's and iPhones is that the batteries seem to degrade pretty quickly toward the end of the first year of ownership. I'm already having to throw my iPhone 7 Plus on the charger before the day is over when I'm traveling.

This is looking like a nice buy for us former Note 7 users. But Android Central says they changed the Orchid Grey from less purple to more slate grey. :( Pooooooooo

In unrelated news I've been carrying my S8+ without a case down on the beach because sand likes to stick in cases and embed in crevices. So far, so good, it's doing well naked at the beach. :D

Same here. My iP7 plus also is dying faster now and I had to charge it up half through the day when I was out of town at a conference. Tired of that.
 

corrado7

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Anybody pre-order with Tmobile JOD? Im curious what the monthly installment is. Its usually different that the 24 mo installment agreement.
 

Radon87000

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Same here. My iP7 plus also is dying faster now and I had to charge it up half through the day when I was out of town at a conference. Tired of that.
Have you checked your battery health through Coconut Battery? If its worn out you are entitled for a free battery replacement.
 

rhinosrcool

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Anybody pre-order with Tmobile JOD? Im curious what the monthly installment is. Its usually different that the 24 mo installment agreement.
I haven't done it, yet. However, it's 0 down and $39/mo + tax and shipping charge of either $6.99 ground or $24.99 next day air. Oh, and I think there is a support fee of $20 + tax?
 

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Same here. My iP7 plus also is dying faster now and I had to charge it up half through the day when I was out of town at a conference. Tired of that.
I wonder if it's the hardware or iOS draining the phones faster. My iPads also drain fast. There is no way I can have brightness turned up as high as I would like or set to auto brightness and hope to get good battery life on the road. I did used to get incredible battery life when I first got my 7 Plus. I will be interested in seeing how it does when iOS 11 is released.

I just got some more online looks at the Note 8 Orchid Gray compared to S8 Orchid Gray. It's not at all the same. I really enjoy the S8 Orchid Gray color. I guess it's a good thing I have decided to stick with my S8+, then.
 

epicrayban

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Interesting comments about the iPhone/iPad battery longevity.

Once again, hardware matters. It always has. It did when Apple was the lead, it still does when Samsung is the lead. The Note 7 battery debacle was a blessing in disguise; we now have safer and longer lasting batteries in Samsung flagships.
 

tbayrgs

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The battery will retain 95% effectiveness after two years of use, says Samsung. I believe the s8 battery was 95% effectiveness after one year of use.

Again, Samsung didn't just bounce back from the battery debacle. They're now the industry lead -- I don't know any other company making such promises for their batteries or having the same 8 step QC-ing process. Two years with 95% battery retention is seriously impressive.

Samsung, leading in yet another category.

Let’s not jump the gun here. Samsung is claiming it will retain that high level of effectiveness after 2 years. Just about EVERY battery performance quote made by a manufacturer (including Apple) tend to be quite a bit off of the truth and should be taken with a grain of salt. We have no idea how valid this claim will be for at least another 1 1/2 years.

Interesting comments about the iPhone/iPad battery longevity.

Once again, hardware matters. It always has. It did when Apple was the lead, it still does when Samsung is the lead. The Note 7 battery debacle was a blessing in disguise; we now have safer and longer lasting batteries in Samsung flagships.

Again, just claims made by Samsung and 2 anecdotal references to poor battery life on their devices. And I’m not asserting that @GrumpyMom and @Yankee512 aren’t seeing decreased performance—I’m sure they are. But we also don’t have any insight into how they’re using their phones, whether their usage has changed over time that could contribute to diminished daily battery longevity, if they have any battery hogging apps, etc. And if it is battery hardware related, again, they’re 2 anecdotal incidents. As a counterpoint, I’m using a nearly 2 year old iPP 12.9” and 7+ that still have awesome battery performance. Does that mean everyone has awesome battery results? Of course not. We could be having this discussion about any piece of mobile hardware.
 
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epicrayban

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Let’s not jump the gun here. Samsung is claiming it will retain that high level of effectiveness after 2 years. Just about EVERY battery performance quote made by a manufacturer (including Apple) tend to be quite a bit off of the truth and should be taken with a grain of salt. We have no idea how valid this claim will be for at least another 1 1/2 years.

I thought my post was pretty clear: I know of no other OEM making such a promise. Of course I don't know whether it'll be true to the exact percentage in exactly 2 years.

Again, just claims made by Samsung and 2 anecdotal references to poor battery life on their devices. And I’m not asserting that @GrumpyMom and @Yankee512 aren’t seeing decreased performance—I’m sure they are. But we also don’t have any insight into how they’re using their phones, whether their usage has changed over time that could contribute to diminished daily battery longevity, if they have any battery hogging apps, etc. And if it is battery hardware related, again, they’re 2 anecdotal incidents. As a counterpoint, I’m using a nearly 2 year old iPP 12.9” and 7+ that still have awesome battery performance. Does that mean everyone has awesome battery results? Of course not. We could be having this discussion about any piece of mobile hardware.

???

Ok, I said the iPhone/iPad comments were interesting.
 

nviz22

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don't forget the group people who think they can afford buying a $1000 smartphone and do buy one (cause you know, gotta show that latest piece of tech to my friends!), but in real life they are just piling it up to all of their creditcard/bank debits.
Something Americans love: ''buy...buy...buy...buy....oeps! A huge debt I can not really afford''


I think what people forget is just because they have $ in the bank account doesn't mean it can be spent on a phone. There is always a market for people buying flagships at reduced prices because they waited 6-8 months after release. Hell, picking up a 2016 model helps people out because what does the new one do that the 2017 one doesn't?

My two cousins picked up a S7 after using the S4 for many years. They may not have a retina scanner, facial recognition, 18:9 aspect ratio, bezeless design, always on FP sensor, etc. However they have a FP sensor, water resistance, 4GB RAM, 64bit processor, QHD display, AOD, Samsung Pay, and another major software update ahead of them.

The S8 isn't worth the extra $ for them because they're not phone enthusiasts. They are just average consumers. I rather think like that than a phone enthusiast because I lose appreciation for a good phone because I then nitpick.
 
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spinedoc77

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Just sell your current phone! I never look at it as if I'm spending $1000, because I will always sell my old phone, or at the very least trade it in. So even though it might be a bit uneven because of the increased prices, at least I know the iPhone 8 will get that much more when I sell it next year. With Samsungs though it may be a bit tougher because they depreciate so rapidly, partly because they have so many promos and bogos. But still, even if you only get $500 for it in a year you then only truly spent $500 on it, at least if you like to trade up every year.

If you keep the phone forever then you are much smarter than I will ever be!
 

Yankee512

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Have you checked your battery health through Coconut Battery? If its worn out you are entitled for a free battery replacement.

Phones only 6 months old. It got worse after the major iOS update.
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I wonder if it's the hardware or iOS draining the phones faster. My iPads also drain fast. There is no way I can have brightness turned up as high as I would like or set to auto brightness and hope to get good battery life on the road. I did used to get incredible battery life when I first got my 7 Plus. I will be interested in seeing how it does when iOS 11 is released.

I just got some more online looks at the Note 8 Orchid Gray compared to S8 Orchid Gray. It's not at all the same. I really enjoy the S8 Orchid Gray color. I guess it's a good thing I have decided to stick with my S8+, then.

Probably so. Mine didn't get bad till after the latest iOS update.
 
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Shanghaichica

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I wonder if it's the hardware or iOS draining the phones faster. My iPads also drain fast. There is no way I can have brightness turned up as high as I would like or set to auto brightness and hope to get good battery life on the road. I did used to get incredible battery life when I first got my 7 Plus. I will be interested in seeing how it does when iOS 11 is released.

I just got some more online looks at the Note 8 Orchid Gray compared to S8 Orchid Gray. It's not at all the same. I really enjoy the S8 Orchid Gray color. I guess it's a good thing I have decided to stick with my S8+, then.
I've not really had that problem with any of my iPads but they do get less use. I will say though that over the past week my 7 plus has been draining quickly and needs recharging during the day. One night it was on 70 odd percent and I left it overnight without charging as I wasn't working the next day. When I woke up the next morning the phone was under 20%.

I haven't seen the note in person but based on the videos I think I actually prefer the note 8 orchid grey. It looks
 
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Fernandez21

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Just played with it at Best Buy, it is really nice. A hate how tall it is, if they can remove the top and bottom bezels I think I would be much more on board.

I like how they improved the edges, there is more flat space between the front and back panels and the curve seems to start farther out. Here are some pictures to show what I mean.

The top one is the Note 8 and bottom is the S8 and you can see the sides are flatter while the S8 is more bulbous.
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You can also see some bezel along the edges as I hold it.
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Hopefully this will mean fewer false touches and allow you to get a better grip on the phone.

Everything else is how you would expect, awesome except for the finger print reader. Looking forward to playing around with it more after I get it.
 
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Fernandez21

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Any advantages to buying the unlocked and unbranded model over the At&t model? It seems wifi calling and VoLTE won't work on at&t with an unbranded model, it has to be an at&t version. I can get the at&t model and unlock it since it will be paid off, so thats not an advantage. But what else is there with the unbranded model? Faster updates?

I kind of want an unbranded model, its also $25 cheaper, but want to know what I would gain by sacrificing wifi calling and VoLTE.
 
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