Just handled it a bit at a Samsung store. It feels really solid compared to the previous Gen. However, the under display camera is dumb. It's not even invisible, it's so obvious that Samsung should just use a hole punch with a better sensor. No difference.
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Exactly I don't understand their thinking.. I'm seeing it just the same as before really dumb IMO...
Some of my most important apps now resize into tablet mode with the inner display, especially an app like webull makes a big difference as I don't feel it necessary to use my iPad, even though the iPad with an even larger display is preferable.
Here are some example from my iPad Pro, Fold 3, and iPhone mini. Fold 3 fits right in the middle. Hopefully more apps get updated soon.
Here are some example from my iPad Pro, Fold 3, and iPhone mini. Fold 3 fits right in the middle. Hopefully more apps get updated soon.
But honestly what’s the motivation for developers? The Android tablet ecosystem is basically non-existent and as you mention, Android already is a far less profitable platform to develop for. And as anemic as the Android tablet market is, the number of Fold 3s sold will still represent a pretty insignificant percentage.
I think the Fold 3 is pretty cool as well but it will not move the needle in regards to stimulating developers to optimize their apps for it. They’d have to sell tens of millions before it might have a slight impact.
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But you aren’t taking into account some pretty good trade in offers etc. and it is cheaper than my fold 2
The Fold even as just a tablet does have a couple of notable advantages over the iPad Mini, even if the latter has more apps specifically tuned for it: AMOLED, and a much more intuitive multitasking mode. Both of which I sorely miss on the Mini, and none of which will be remedied with the version supposedly coming this fall. It also has a smaller pen which is great, just too bad there’s no silo for it because that would just have been so damn nifty.
I hope I get to play around with one soon. Buying it wouldn’t be an option for me sadly because of the price. It’s kind of frustrating though because I really want it as a tablet, but I could actually do without the folding and phone part.
We’ll see what happens if I do get to test it soon…knowing myself, even a price tag like that starts to look acceptable with monthly installments
I'm really bummed at being back on an iPad mini, they really suck compared to the Fold. I try and not say it's "toy OS" thing anymore because it has matured, but just lacking simple things like background utilization is just horrible. Having all my apps refresh if I background them just seems so backwards.
Other than the GSM arena one I don't see the difference. Even the GSM arena one doesn't look bad, or particularly worse than the iPad one you posted subsequently. I'm not familiar with web page designing, but is it possible the issue is the web page programming/design? I used my Fold 2 for a year and the web browser was probably my most used function, hours a day on it at the very least. I never found a single web page which had an issue formatting or otherwise. I wish I still had it to take a closer look at GSM arena, as it's not a website I have visited before.
Yeah, background app refresh has long been one of the worst problems with iOS. On my iPhone 7 Pro it'd cause serious issues like if I was in a hurry and buying a last minute train ticket, I switch back to my calendar to double check a time, come back to the booking procedure and it's been wiped. Face palm. Fortunately I haven't had much of that problem with my 12 Pro Max, but once in a while it'll happen so it still leaves me perpetually worried.
With my iPad Pro 12" 2018 I have to admit that I haven't been using it enough to take note of this behaviour on it. Which I guess says something in itself... It feels like the bigger the device, the worse Apple's touch OS's get. For me it's the awkward, super restricted multitasking that most of all prevents me from achieving any sort of work flow on the iPad.
Meanwhile the general consensus is that iPad apps are slicker than Android tablet apps, and I agree that the apps themselves on iPad are usually very well made, and there's a lot of them too - but the environment around them definitely isn't slick. And I still find it literally painful and borderline insulting to have to long press iPad app icons until they go squiggly and then attempt that stupid shuffle just like on the iPhone. Apple please.
Ultimately though, the lack of AMOLED is what really cools down my enthusiasm over the upcoming iPad Mini refresh. That form factor for me is all about enjoying media often in dark environments where my 12 Pro Max's display is pure joy whereas anything IPS feels like taking a knife to the eyes these days. So a real bummer for me.
The best of both worlds for me right now would be a smaller iPhone, maybe the regular iPhone 13 as opposed to the Max - as in terms of reliability for important tasks (background refresh aside) my Android phones over the years have all left me low on trust - and then a 8" form factor Android AMOLED tablet. Sadly, the latter doesn't exist.
The Fold although intriguing isn't really an option for me as honestly it's more of an advantage to me to have the two devices separate.
Really what a small view on what may or may not encourage developers
The simple fact of less competition and more opportunities and niche appeal can be enough to inspire many let alone there are simply more android users
It's not all about the big developers chasing the lucrative western $ in a crowed market that even Apple have failed to deliver key productivity or creator apps, so there are equally lack of motivation on Apple Tablets
Lets not mix Apples profits with developers who are free to derive profit outside of closed stores and generally reporting we see.
There is greater opportunities for those that wish to find them is a larger, diverse and open OS
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Sorry, what a load of tripe.
Developers are generally trying to earn a living making their apps and there is loads factual evidence that apps on iOS are far more profitable. And I’m not referring to the big apps as those will likely be the first to make necessary changes. Small devs can only put their time and effort in so many places. Many devs don’t even develop their apps for Android because the return on their investment is not worth it. Many others won’t develop for Android until they’ve established their presence first on iOS. IIRC, the level of expenditure on iOS is many factors higher on iOS than on Android, despite having a much smaller market share.
Why is there no established Android tablet ecosystem? Because in addition to the facts that Android users are far less likely to spend money on apps, there are far fewer Android tablets. Yes, Apple’s tablets often lag in development in comparison to general computing but it’s light years ahead of Android tablets. And in reality, that’s what is being talked about in regards to apps on the Fold. You will not see significant movement by devs for a device that isn’t even a drop in the bucket compared to traditional Android phones that don’t see the same level of development as their iOS counterparts.
If that larger, diverse, open ecosystem is such a boon for developers, why aren’t they developing for it?
Sorry for every point you make there is simply an equally opposite case and your simplistic approach to what motivates developers is childlike at best
There are just too many options and scenarios for you or I to 2nd guess on such a broad spectrum
The very draw of IOS that likely has far wealthy % of users creates its own set of issues for the smaller developer and equally Android with likely less can have unique appeal for other reasons
The simple fact that Android by its nature has far more opportunities open to all over IOS again gives a greater diversification open to developers
There are pro's and cons to both stores and it's up to the canny developer to find his or her niche in the market place and target their demographic accordingly.
For sure some may favour IOS yet others will favour Android in addition to more options available
I am very tempted to try the Fold 3 for 21 days and then trade in my Note 20 Ultra if I want. I have the Samsung SoFi account so I get a discount and the Fold 3 would come out to $973 after the trade in. Anyone trade in their Note 20 Ultra? Do you miss the pen and camera system? The only thing holding me back is missing the 5x optical zoom. I've seen many videos where the day and night photos actually look better on the Fold 3 despite having almost the same camera system. I currently have the Note 20 Ultra, GW4, Buds Pro, Tab S7+ and an iPhone 12 mini so I'm pretty much in Samsung's eco system.
I traded in my Note 20U, no regrets. I rarely used the pen and the fold3 cameras are as good or better, minus the less optical zoom. The only downsides for me are the cases suck, most I've tried are not secure on the front display. Right now I'm using the Samsung Carbon, but only on the rear of the device.
I returned my Fold 3, but while I had it I used the Samsung silicone case. It was actually really good. Didn't move around and didn't add much thickness.
No cases for me since it's already bulky enough. Haven't had a case for my Fold2 since I bought about a year ago. I had a situation where I dropped it and cracked the back, had a few minor scuffs on the side. But since I had everything repaired... been hassle free.
I do keep a sleeve on it for going out... it does well for protection. And with the new additon of the Galaxy Watch 4 I'm not taking my phone out the sleeve as much.
Ah sorry to see ya go but I see your reasons.. Catch ya on the next phone... And I agree on the silicone case.. Recommend edge works.. It's not so bulky...
This is my preferred way... I slide into pouch when needed on days I'm with loose pockets or depending where I'm going... I did cave in and got one case but mainly just skin no case best..
Cool.. cool! Well, welcome on aboard. Hope you stay for the long haul. Besides the incentives... what peaks your interest in the Fold3?
Gotta say coming from the ZF2 this inner screen protector is one they should've used on previous.. Definitely improved...
Watched a video today on battery tips different folks use.. One was turning off wifi scanning and Bluetooth... Under location settings... Do you folks have that off? I'm one not to turn stuff off but just curious...
Watched a video today on battery tips different folks use.. One was turning off wifi scanning and Bluetooth... Under location settings... Do you folks have that off? I'm one not to turn stuff off but just curious...
I actually seen it in reddit thread… been looking to see what can replace my icons that I bought from the Galaxy Store. And so far, I can‘t find anything… that Outline Icon Packs seems pretty good, but I’ll have to rearrange my set up to make the icons stand out.
I'm usually good finding icons but I have plenty of ones from previous phones...
