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I doubt Vision Pro had much impact on iPhone development. I suspect that Apple cannot yet make a foldable phone that meets its fit and finish requirements. The obvious problem is the bulk. Samsung's Fold is still basically two slim phones sandwiched together. Too bulky for Apple.


Agreed. I imagine that Apple has folding prototypes and I think we'll see a folding phone from them in the next few years.
The Apple won‘t make it until they can design it better trope is so tired….have you seen some of their products lately?
 
While I’m not enthusiastic about folding phones, (though I have never tried one) the possibility of multitasking 2 apps simultaneously on both screens would make the bulk worth it - maybe
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doesn't matter how they say their products are better. If you buy their product(s) and it doesn't match what they perceive it is better than others. You see it is terrible for you, you wasted money. Common sense when buying anything.
 
I don't even split-screen/multitask like this on iPad, why would I do this on a smaller screen?
 
these sorts of marketting is pretty cringe.
If you have a good product then the customers will come.
 
So I have two phones one personal (iPhone) and one for my job. I’ve been trying out a slightly dated Samsung fold, and I’ll admit that I love it.
 
I returned the Z Fold 5. I’m excited to own a foldable one day for sure. We just aren’t there yet IMO. Needs no visible crease and dust protection.
 
The Apple won‘t make it until they can design it better trope is so tired….have you seen some of their products lately?
Lol. I have. I never said "design it better" either. I said I think Apple can't deliver a folding phone that meets their fit and finish standards and I believe that's true. Samsung has done a very nice job, but it's still basically two phones sandwiched together. I think Apple will launch a folding iPhone when they can make it slimmer and more Apple-like.

None of which is necessarily "better". Your better and my better are probably very different. We all value different things. Some people want to be on the cutting edge and don't care about the fit and finish. Some people value upgradability. Others don't care one bit.

In my opinion, Apple's products are the most thoughtfully designed in their respective categories. For me that equals "better." For others it clearly does not.
 
Lol. I have. I never said "design it better" either. I said I think Apple can't deliver a folding phone that meets their fit and finish standards and I believe that's true. Samsung has done a very nice job, but it's still basically two phones sandwiched together. I think Apple will launch a folding iPhone when they can make it slimmer and more Apple-like.
Maybe.

There will be a lot of apps (games) which don't support the aspect ratio at all, so your unfolded phone will likely be black on one side.

It isn't great for video - a 16:9-ish aspect ratio phone can't unfold once into a 16:9-ish aspect ratio tablet. You either have a tablet which has a lot of block bars when watching movies, or a phone with a relatively square body that would have difficulty running apps which require e.g. keyboard input.

Unfolding would give you double the screen space. Meanwhile, an iPad 10th gen has 3.5x the screen space over an iPhone 14.

You are basically unfolding a phone into a larger phone, and have a lot of software complexities with weird screen sizes, a new mechanical failure point, and double the thickness in your pocket to show for it.
 
Limited space in pants pockets and the need for more screen real estate for multitasking. If Apple solves the crease problem and makes a foldable that turns into an iPad mini size I would buy it in an instant.
Folding doesn't halve volume, so you have double the thickness and the additional space needed for the hinge.
 
A Galaxy Fold with a wider outside screen would have been an instant buy for me but not with that weird narrow remote control size.

Maybe next year!
A growing wider opinion yet 100% of the top Android apps works on both the outer and in we screen of the Galaxy Fold entire lineup!

this is more critical.

When you’re placing it in your pocket trust me you do not want the extra weight nor the width then n their. Besides it’s much better for one handed use.
 
When Screens are thin, with out center fold in the face I will look at fold.
You don’t even notice it when using it. Not long ago many here forgave the huge bezels of iPad n iPad Pro both their first 2 generations despite the BlackBerry Playbook having: slimmer bezels smaller size, better camera with flash led and flash support n better connected to its smartphone. But look who won out?!??

Yeah so.
 
What problem do foldable phones solve? Serious question.

current folding phones are gimmicks.

Specifically with the Samsung Folds they solve the following:

The mobile power user that needs ultra mobility without the need to carry a laptop yet still be connected to corporate information and workspaces and documentation/data with the flexibility to present and manage that data with their team or the business while travelling.

The OS allows for split screen multi-tasking on the outer display: imagine playing a voicemail or video in another language and running translation at the same time. I’ve tried this on iOS 14-16 and still currently nobody can do this! Native apps including voice memo cannot be done!

Internally the OS allows for 3 split screen apps to run simultaneously (some may be for input and output translation while an the for reference) + 1 pop up app on top of them or to bring off tot he side off screen until you need it.

Specifically I queue to Samsung is a proper desktop os experience called Dex. Android allows you to run mobile versions of Microsoft office while the desktop allows desktop versions that can merge with your M365 license. (I’m not certain if add-ins can be run in Excel I’ll know in about a week when I get my S23 to test). Also imagine connecting to corporate space securely using Citrix Viewer and able to run 2 instances of such connection simultaneously!

This effort or paradigm, the purpose of such a device, was first led by the Nokia Communicators and Ericsson as well but Ericsson pretty much gave up earlier on.

Thai generation of devices has a LOT of uptake and about 5 competitors that is continually growing so the demand is significantly there. Apple I don’t think will do this because it’ll seriously affect their casual iPad user sales and potential very light use casual MacBook Air user. Notice that the MacBOok is completely gone from their lineup for some time.
 
Pathetic.
What that Apple allows Samsung ability of do this? Or the only potential way other than the real product to show you what’s possible? Or maybe Apple has yet to have a direct competitive product (singular, not multiple)?

What I find pathetic is there are quite a number of members here that have several iPhones to use personally just for the sake of having more than one, no other reason at all. Just their right to preference. My opinion based on if your phone can do all you want why need more than one? If it can do more would you ever want more than one?
 
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