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Something not mentioned here is that the LG screens seem less vibrant, probably due to LG not using the same M14 process as Samsung. You can instantly tell Samsung vs LG in store without doing anything by just tilting the top of the phone toward or away from you while looking at the home bar area. If there’s significant blue shift then it’s probably an LG display.


The blue shift is more visible on the Y axis when tilting the top of the phone towards me. All other directions it’s normal. The worst screen I saw was an LG that had really bad green shift at every angle. My personal preference re: screens is slight blue off axis shift. Hate pink tint / shift.

I’ve gone through I think six 16PM, viewed three other ones from family / friends. I sold 3 of the bad ones and am selling my nicked frame one now too. So maybe 7 in total?

My limited observations with the 16PM have been that Samsung screens have uniformity issues and less off axis shift. All of the LG screens I’ve seen have been uniform, just more likely to get one with strong off axis shift.
Yep, Samsung displays have worse uniformity. I’ve been through 9 phones myself and the mix was about 7 LG and 2 Samsung. One of the latter had a great screen but multiple horizontal bands at 5% uniformity (not a huge deal), but the camera focus was totally off vs the 15 Pro Max so I had to return it.
 
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Something not mentioned here is that the LG screens seem less vibrant, probably due to LG not using the same M14 process as Samsung. You can instantly tell Samsung vs LG in store without doing anything by just tilting the top of the phone toward or away from you while looking at the home bar area. If there’s significant blue shift then it’s probably an LG display.



Yep, Samsung displays have worse uniformity. I’ve been through 9 phones myself and the mix was about 7 LG and 2 Samsung. One of the latter had a great screen but multiple horizontal bands at 5% uniformity (not a huge deal), but the camera focus was totally off vs the 15 Pro Max so I had to return it.
It's ridiculous to have to go through so many phones just to get an acceptable screen. I think I understand what you're getting at re: vibrancy differences. Some of the screens just pop and are very crisp. With my current phone side by side with the Samsung one the screens are identical in terms of color and brightness. But yeah, there's a lot of variance.
 
It's ridiculous to have to go through so many phones just to get an acceptable screen. I think I understand what you're getting at re: vibrancy differences. Some of the screens just pop and are very crisp. With my current phone side by side with the Samsung one the screens are identical in terms of color and brightness. But yeah, there's a lot of variance.
I completely agree that it’s ridiculous & to have this amount of variance between screens on the exact same phone seems strange. Everyone purchasing a 16 Pro deserves to have a vibrant screen without significant color shift and that’s not the case this year
 
My Screen G9N arrived and there doesn't seem to be a problem. Is it normal for natural phones to have such marks on the corners? I bought this color for the first time. I wipe it with a wet cloth and it goes away but comes back after a while.
 

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Starting in February I already swapped 3 Phone 16 Pro Max with LG panels and still what I got is one with a LG panel which has this awful green color shift. I am wondering how much do I still have to swap until I get an M14 samsung panel? Are there any numbers on how much panels Samsung is still delivering to apple ?
 
Hello all been following this thread and read the whole replies
first of all sadly this is how oled are made I got a 14 pro max before the 16 pro max the uniformity issue back then was almost non existent all my firends and family had that phone I never noticed any problem with any of them
My 16 pro max is G9P it is a good panel with no off axis shift the off axis shoft is marginally better than my 14 pro max
my device is not that uniform though with a slight red tint at the bottom one third
I got the chance to try and test other 3 devices in store
2 were lg on was samsung
the lg ones had sever color shift but good uniformity the samsung had worse uniformity that mine but no off axis shift
my take away message is that this year the chance of getting a uniform panel with no shift is sadly extremely
low
my personal advice if the panel you got does only exhibit a slight uniformity issue with no off axis color shift then keep it better save the effort for may be next year when M14 is better developed and the yield is good enough to cover most of the apple order
this year I think the lg panels' percentage is much higher than the years before (for the 16 pro max) which was mostly only samsung exclusive
One last message for those OCD gangster like me I hope it gets better for you and me and you get the panel you deserve ❤️😀
 
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Hello all been following this thread and read the whole replies
first of all sadly this is how oled are made I got a 14 pro max before the 16 pro max the uniformity issue back then was almost non existent all my firends and family had that phone I never noticed any problem with any of them
My 16 pro max is G9P it is a good panel with no off axis shift the off axis shoft is marginally better than my 14 pro max
my device is not that uniform though with a slight red tint at the bottom one third
I got the chance to try and test other 3 devices in store
2 were lg on was samsung
the lg ones had sever color shift but good uniformity the samsung had worse uniformity that mine but no off axis shift
my take away message is that this year the chance of getting a uniform panel with no shift is sadly extremely
low
my personal advice if the panel you got does only exhibit a slight uniformity issue with no off axis color shift then keep it better save the effort for may be next year when M14 is better developed and the yield is good enough to cover most of the apple order
this year I think the lg panels' percentage is much higher than the years before (for the 16 pro max) which was mostly only samsung exclusive
One last message for those OCD gangster like me I hope it gets better for you and me and you get the panel you deserve ❤️😀
How did you find out panel manufacturer whilst you were testing in store ?
 
How did you find out panel manufacturer whilst you were testing in store ?
there is a new law in my country where if a device is not registered with a cellular operator before 1/1/2025
additional fees must be paid
so all the stores opened the devices and activated them in order to evade the extra fees
so technically the devices are not used but are activated
I explained my needs to the sales man and he was so friendly loading up 3utools for me in the laptop in the store
so I tested 4 devices
mine was the best out of them minimal non uniformity and a g9p
also the other two lg were gh3 and gvc(very poor off axis shift) I did jot care to even test them as soon as the verfication report is ready with the serial number
 
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Hello all been following this thread and read the whole replies
first of all sadly this is how oled are made I got a 14 pro max before the 16 pro max the uniformity issue back then was almost non existent all my firends and family had that phone I never noticed any problem with any of them
My 16 pro max is G9P it is a good panel with no off axis shift the off axis shoft is marginally better than my 14 pro max
my device is not that uniform though with a slight red tint at the bottom one third
I got the chance to try and test other 3 devices in store
2 were lg on was samsung
the lg ones had sever color shift but good uniformity the samsung had worse uniformity that mine but no off axis shift
my take away message is that this year the chance of getting a uniform panel with no shift is sadly extremely
low
my personal advice if the panel you got does only exhibit a slight uniformity issue with no off axis color shift then keep it better save the effort for may be next year when M14 is better developed and the yield is good enough to cover most of the apple order
this year I think the lg panels' percentage is much higher than the years before (for the 16 pro max) which was mostly only samsung exclusive
One last message for those OCD gangster like me I hope it gets better for you and me and you get the panel you deserve ❤️😀
It is just Apple in my recent experience. I've gone through a phone carousel recently. 16PM- returned several and settled on my current one. Pixel 9XL- perfect on first try. OnePlus 13- perfect on first try. Galaxy S25 Ultra- perfect on first try.

Apple is either cheaping out with lax quality control and / or the volume of displays is just so massive that there are going to be several duds. It doesn't excuse Apple, it is a trillion dollar company.

If Samsung's own panel on the S25U is older than what is sold to Apple, you'd never know it. Bright, crisp, giant display is proper white, uniform, no orange tint BS when eye comfort is enabled, and minimal slight blue shift off axis. What I demand out of a $1299 phone.
 
there is a new law in my country where if a device is not registered with a cellular operator before 1/1/2025
additional fees must be paid
so all the stores opened the devices and activated them in order to evade the extra fees
so technically the devices are not used but are activated
I explained my needs to the sales man and he was so friendly loading up 3utools for me in the laptop in the store
so I tested 4 devices
mine was the best out of them minimal non uniformity and a g9p
also the other two lg were gh3 and gvc(very poor off axis shift) I did jot care to even test them as soon as the verfication report is ready with the serial number
Mines G9P also. Not perfect but acceptable. 👍🏽
PS don’t tell @Harthag where this store is. 🤣 joking. Love the guy really 😍- none physical.
 
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Mines G9P also. Not perfect but acceptable. 👍🏽
PS don’t tell @Harthag where this store is. 🤣 joking. Love the guy really 😍- none physical.
so simple
device is connected to 3utools as soon as it boots up
verification report generated with display serial number
 
got a 16 pro and returned it because of this hideous color shift with a slight tilt
does the regular 16 have the same panel issues? i gave up on the 16 pro
 

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got a 16 pro and returned it because of this hideous color shift with a slight tilt
does the regular 16 have the same panel issues? i gave up on the 16 pro
you can do one of two things
try again one or two more times with the 16 pro
or get the 15 pro the difference is not that big
 
got a 16 pro and returned it because of this hideous color shift with a slight tilt
does the regular 16 have the same panel issues? i gave up on the 16 pro
There’s issues on all the models this year. It’s really a lottery. Not model dependent.
 
Guys, what about gray uniformity in low light?
these are two 16 PM 512GB I have tested so far.
Two photos for each one.
 

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Guys, what about gray uniformity in low light?
these are two 16 PM 512GB I have tested so far.
Two photos for each one.
strangely this year the uniformity issue is with white or light grey which I have never seen before
the dark greys don't have the huge issues from the years before like green greys and red greys
 
strangely this year the uniformity issue is with white or light grey which I have never seen before
the dark greys don't have the huge issues from the years before like green greys and red greys
If you have bad uniformity with white or light gray, you 100% have the same uniformity pattern with dark grays in low light. Look at the last photo I posted. Top part is reddish. In light mode the bottom is little bit darker - same pattern.
 
If you have bad uniformity with white or light gray, you 100% have the same uniformity pattern with dark grays in low light. Look at the last photo I posted. Top part is reddish. In light mode the bottom is little bit darker - same pattern.
I very sensitive to uniformity issues
my display has the lower one third slightly red tinted
which is not noticeable at all in dark grey like settings for example even if I try hard enough to notice my eye can't see it
 
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Guys, what about gray uniformity in low light?
these are two 16 PM 512GB I have tested so far.
Two photos for each one.
They all look pretty bad unless you can’t really see it in person. In the last picture, the top 2/3 of the screen (above Notifications) is more red than the rest. I would return and try again
 
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