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How many times have you charged and listened to headphones simultaneously in the last year?

  • Never

    Votes: 328 42.2%
  • Less than 10 times

    Votes: 114 14.7%
  • Less than 50 times

    Votes: 59 7.6%
  • More than 50 times

    Votes: 277 35.6%

  • Total voters
    778

criminycraft

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Sep 16, 2016
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I do. I like to charge my phone and listen to music on my headphones while falling asleep. I can't listen to the speakers because my girlfriend sleeps next to me.
 
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Mac 128

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Those won't work with the provided adapter?

No they should. Square explicitly states theirs do.
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Well, I guess it could be said that none of it really is an issue if you change what you use (get some dongle or wireless headphones or this or that) and perhaps adjust how you use things (use Bluetooth when perhaps you never even needed to use it before, etc.). It seems like the underlying point is that it's not the same experience as before for those that have been using their devices in particular and fairly typical ways and would no longer be able to do it without something else being needed and/or doing things somewhat differently.

Im not saying there aren't issues around the removal of the jack, but the examples you commented on are what I would call progress. Sometimes, people should change the way they do things, especially if there is a reasonable alternative.

I do think the $40 Belkin adapter is a ridiculous alternative to eliminating the native functionality. But I would have probably jumped at that option back when I was trying to make using my phone with more convenient cable management back when I was using the AUX port.

As it is, I'm extremely frustrated by the HDMI cable I bought for use with my new head unit. I had intended to plug in USB and hdmi into it in my glove box, and run an extension cable to my iPhone, rather than having a lump of cables dangling from my iPhone. But none of the ones I tried worked. So I don't use the HDMI option with my head unit in daily use.

If I were going to use the Belkin adapter, I'd want that extension cord, since I would not want that lump of cables dangling from my phone either. So that's another problem I have with the adapter. Hopefully Belkin or someone will make an extension cable for it that works, now that Apple seems to be licensing female Lightning ports. Then I can buy it an it will hopefully work with my HDMI setup.
 
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jjk454ss

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Jul 10, 2008
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Didn't think this would effect me at all until I got in my car for the first time. I have a Proclip Mount with the Lightning charger and the BT in my car sucks so I use the Aux cable. I contacted ProClip and they ay come out with an adapter to work with the Belkin Audio & Charge cable. I sure hope they do.
 

TheMountainLife

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It seems like this thread has come down to a back and fourth between folks that use their phone as a work horse and those that use their phone casually.

Most of us in the US are accustomed to our newer vehicles/offices etc that its not that big of an issue as we are always near power and or bluetooth if needed. I can see how users of public transport, lifestyles in other countries or power users can negatively be impacted by this.

This forum is such a micro sample size compared to the other i7 users out there so the vote doesn't represent anything to me. If you're using this forum you're likely to be modern and/or a techie so adapting comes more natural and faster than the general population.

We go to a niche website to debate and share our opinions on Apple products where as the responses I've seen on Facebook/Twitter better expanded my knowledge on how others use their devices.

Not saying anything is right or wrong here but consider that "one size does not fit all" when suggesting how others should adapt to change.

Side note - I do look forward to a Mophie case that reintroduces the 3.5mm jack.

TLDR; Think outside your box.
 

KeanosMagicHat

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May 18, 2012
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. . . I feel many are upset over the change, similar to as they were when Apple changed from the 30-pin connector to the lighting connector. Yes it may be a pain to adjust, but the "issue" won't be an issue for long.

It's a totally different scenario, I'm afraid.

30 pin to Lightning was one proprietary Apple standard to another.

Removing the Jack is taking away a universal standard for no good reason (or courage if you take the company line).
 

hallidc

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It's a totally different scenario, I'm afraid.

30 pin to Lightning was one proprietary Apple standard to another.

Removing the Jack is taking away a universal standard for no good reason (or courage if you take the company line).
Thats understandable. I guess they see wireless headphones as the future. I honestly don't mind no headphone jack on the iPhone (although I'd definitely lose the adapter), however it would be a totally different story if they removed the headphone jack on the MacBook
 

Mac 128

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Thats understandable. I guess they see wireless headphones as the future. I honestly don't mind no headphone jack on the iPhone (although I'd definitely lose the adapter), however it would be a totally different story if they removed the headphone jack on the MacBook

It will happen. But probably not on this next refresh rumored for October. I do expect to see all the Macs get a Lightning port, and the Retina MacBook to replace the headphone jack with a Lightning port though ...
 

McPhallus

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Mar 3, 2011
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I do every day at work. I'm always listening to podcasts and streaming while I'm working. I'd rather not leave work with a low battery, so I charge while listening.

And sometimes i get in to work with a lower battery because I've forgotten to charge or kept the phone at my nightstand for whatever reason. Being able to charge while listening means never having to worry about a low battery.


I can see the desire to charge and listen to something, granted, you'll be stuck in one spot as your power cable needs to be plugged into an outlet.

Perhaps office workers at a desk job would be the majority of people with this desire?

With that being said, who actually does this and in what situation?
 
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daymouse

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Apr 22, 2013
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Last couple of days had my normal usage and not needed to charge in work as plenty of juice. I'm ending the day with about 20-25% more battery than I did with my 6.
 
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AVEGA

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Feb 11, 2016
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When I drive my audio set up has USB and 3.5 mm headphone jack . I use lighting to USB listen to music and podcast as I drive . So I charge as I listen and drive !
When I'm home I use wireless blu tooth speaker and i got a charge cradle so I'm good . I rarely charge and listen at the same time
 

tallazzPilipino

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Sep 25, 2015
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got that nomadic lifestyle
in NYC when you're walking everywhere and taking the trains, earbuds/pods are almost a necessity, and I never leave home without them. the included wired ones are pretty cheap and quick, and you never need to worry about charging them. I also usually carry with me a pocketable power bank. charging my phone isn't always the same timed routine each day and neither is my usage, so of course there are going to be times I'm going to need to charge during the same moments I'm still listening to music.
 

bufffilm

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I'm glad you phrased this question as, "listen to headphones".

The general news and tech media are focusing on listening to music whilst charging, which is something I very rarely do.

That's the wrong question though (unless the purpose is to write a biased article about how removal of the headphone jack doesn't matter - which sadly many journalists will do to stay ingratiated with Apple).

By broadening it out to, "listen to headphones", as you have done, I can now legitimately say more than 50 times.

I like the live video app Periscope but, understandably given what it does, it's a battery hog. I've regularly had to plug in the charger whilst listening to a broadcast on headphones.

Also watching other movie / broadcast / YouTube media, I've plugged in the charger many times whilst on headphones too.

One final example is my sister's kids. They watch movies & tv etc and are always charging whilst using headphones so as not to disturb the rest of the family.

When you add in all these circumstances, it's actually a far more widespread situation than some might think.

Of course it is.

I don't really think the OP cares that there are people who do charge and use the jack.

His stance is either don't buy the ip7 or use some sort of adapter.

I'm not due for a new phone till 2017 so I'm fine for now. But I may buy another 6s next year instead of getting the new iPhone. Really have to see what the battery life is on BT headphones. 5-6 hrs isn't good enough for me.

If the 2017 phone has wireless charging, that might work then for me. We'll see.
 
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alphacen

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in NYC when you're walking everywhere and taking the trains, earbuds/pods are almost a necessity, and I never leave home without them. the included wired ones are pretty cheap and quick, and you never need to worry about charging them. I also usually carry with me a pocketable power bank. charging my phone isn't always the same timed routine each day and neither is my usage, so of course there are going to be times I'm going to need to charge during the same moments I'm still listening to music.

If only more people in NYC used headphones... I get so tired of listening to other peoples music (mostly rap) on the subway because they're using their cell or tablet as a boombox. I've been tempted to pull out my headphones and blast Bach to compete with whatever crap they're listening to.
 

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If only more people in NYC used headphones... I get so tired of listening to other peoples music (mostly rap) on the subway because they're using their cell or tablet as a boombox. I've been tempted to pull out my headphones and blast Bach to compete with whatever crap they're listening to.

Well the good news for you then, is that the iPhone 7, with its new, louder, stereo speakers, makes using it in this manner even more likely!
 

allthishoopla

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Dec 18, 2016
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I can see the desire to charge and listen to something, granted, you'll be stuck in one spot as your power cable needs to be plugged into an outlet.

Perhaps office workers at a desk job would be the majority of people with this desire?

With that being said, who actually does this and in what situation?

If you use your headphones for a phone call, and your battery is running low, you have to end your call or switch to handset while you are charging. This could be problematic, especially if you are driving. Apple forgets sometimes that the phone part is actually important to many of its users. They market it as a camera /media player/mini iPad that will also accept emergency communications from your mom.
 
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thewitt

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I bought a cable adapter that supports charging and headphones at the same time. Done. Move along. Nothing to see here.
 

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I bought a cable adapter that supports charging and headphones at the same time. Done. Move along. Nothing to see here.

The Belkin one? Did you pay $40 for it? Tax and/or shipping? Does it allow you to use any other Lightning accessories at the same time as you charge and listen?

Personally the AirPods are the preferred solution to this, and a much better investment for this purpose. Now that they are actually available, only 5-6 months after the iPhone 7 was released, this issue is moot for me.

Of course there's still one problem neither solution solves, and that's the ability to share a single audio source between two pairs of headphones while charging the phone. Hopefully W1chipped headphones will add this feature, and there will be a Lightning adapter that supports split Lightning audio. As it stands now the only way to do it, is by using the 3.5mm adapter, or buying some specific BT headphones that support daisy-chaining. I'm actually disappointed we haven't seen any Beats Lightning headphones with a pass through Lightning port that supports both pass through charging while listening, and sharing of the audio program, in much the same way some Beats headphones support 3.5mm daisiy chasing now.
 
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Over 50 times. I have a 7 Plus and use wireless headphones while charging. I've only used the adapter once and it was in a friend's car who had aux.
 

thewitt

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Yes I bought the Belkin for $40 in an airport audio shop. It doesn't support any other peripherals, only charging on one side then audio on the other. I have AirPods on order.
 

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Yes I bought the Belkin for $40 in an airport audio shop. It doesn't support any other peripherals, only charging on one side then audio on the other. I have AirPods on order.

That's really unfortunate. That means the HDMI adapter can't be used at the same time as the headphones, and a power source. The USB 3 adapter also allows for a hard drive and midi equipment, and power. So it would seem that's not useable with the Belkin adapter either. Horrible waste of $40 for some.
 
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Tsuchiya

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My car doesn't have satellite navigation or bluetooth audio annoyingly. Until the car gets replaced sometime next year, if I use my iPhone to navigate then I need that stupid Belkin adapter so I can also listen to music on long journeys without killing my phone battery.

Also when I'm in bed, I like to listen to music sometimes, but I also need my phone fully charged in the morning so it'll 100% last me the entire day.
 

tallazzPilipino

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Sep 25, 2015
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got that nomadic lifestyle
If only more people in NYC used headphones... I get so tired of listening to other peoples music (mostly rap) on the subway because they're using their cell or tablet as a boombox. I've been tempted to pull out my headphones and blast Bach to compete with whatever crap they're listening to.
haha.. with me, it's usually been Mariachi music I hear from those that want to share. ‍♂️

edit: I guess the new emojis don't work here.
 
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