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How many times have you charged and listened to headphones simultaneously in the last year?

  • Never

    Votes: 328 42.2%
  • Less than 10 times

    Votes: 114 14.7%
  • Less than 50 times

    Votes: 59 7.6%
  • More than 50 times

    Votes: 277 35.6%

  • Total voters
    778

daymouse

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Apr 22, 2013
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After finding out about using a 12w charger for faster charging I've ordered one on amazing for the office so can fast charge there at least until I can get a cheap adapter
 

Mac 128

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I did say that proprietary connectors were going to be a big an inconvenience when the rumours first surfaced. ;)

Most iPhone customers will just use what comes in the box, the rest of us will have to pay up or go elsewhere.

The proprietary connector is not an issue. It's the unecessary removal of functionality by Apple. Apple could address this at no charge to the customer. Do you honestly think that if Belkin made a USB-C version of this adapter it would be much less expensive? I don't.

Assuming Apple is going to botch the removal of the headphone jack in debating a rumor is counterproductive. Debating facts is another.
 

OllyW

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The proprietary connector is not an issue. It's the unecessary removal of functionality by Apple. Apple could address this at no charge to the customer. Do you honestly think that if Belkin made a USB-C version of this adapter it would be much less expensive? I don't.

Assuming Apple is going to botch the removal of the headphone jack in debating a rumor is counterproductive. Debating facts is another.
Actually, it's played out better than I originally expected after the rumours with Apple including a 3.5mm adaptor with the phone to pacify the majority of customers. Other adaptors will be made available eventually to cover the needs of the minority who are still affected but there's no guarantee they will come cheap.
 
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brojan

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Sep 13, 2016
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1. I charge my phone overnight, every night, like many people do.

2. I listen to music or watch shows on my phone while going to bed and falling asleep.

3. I wear headphones to do this so my wife can fall asleep and I don't bother her.

4. What if my phone is low during the day and I want to use my headphones? I just continue to drain it and have no option to charge simultaneously?

5. I understand apple's decision. I don't understand this thread.

The dock solution doesn't work for me because then I cannot watch shows/movies while charging and using my phone.
 

caranddriver

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Jun 15, 2010
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I charge and listen at the same time. I think I'll be skipping 7 and hoping that the next iPhone will have wireless charging which will at least avoid dongle daisy chaining at home at work. Of course won't help at places that don't have wireless charging and then it'll be dongle-dongle.

I try not to constantly charge my iPhone and it sometimes happens where the battery gets low during the day.
 

KeanosMagicHat

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May 18, 2012
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I can see the desire to charge and listen to something, granted, you'll be stuck in one spot as your power cable needs to be plugged into an outlet.

Perhaps office workers at a desk job would be the majority of people with this desire?

With that being said, who actually does this and in what situation?

I'm glad you phrased this question as, "listen to headphones".

The general news and tech media are focusing on listening to music whilst charging, which is something I very rarely do.

That's the wrong question though (unless the purpose is to write a biased article about how removal of the headphone jack doesn't matter - which sadly many journalists will do to stay ingratiated with Apple).

By broadening it out to, "listen to headphones", as you have done, I can now legitimately say more than 50 times.

I like the live video app Periscope but, understandably given what it does, it's a battery hog. I've regularly had to plug in the charger whilst listening to a broadcast on headphones.

Also watching other movie / broadcast / YouTube media, I've plugged in the charger many times whilst on headphones too.

One final example is my sister's kids. They watch movies & tv etc and are always charging whilst using headphones so as not to disturb the rest of the family.

When you add in all these circumstances, it's actually a far more widespread situation than some might think.
 

walds11

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May 30, 2010
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I do, but only on occasion, so I'll have to change my habit or better yet, get the AirPods.
 

tallazzPilipino

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Sep 25, 2015
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got that nomadic lifestyle
since I've had my Plus, I've had long distance calls (overseas) to my gf cut short because I've had to unplug my ear pods just to charge. I absolutely hate holding my phone up to my face for anything especially for lengthy periods. also, the sound quality through the messenger we use really needs us to be using our earpods.
 
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jgelin

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Jul 30, 2015
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My biggest use case for charging with headphone jack is in the car I plug the phone in to charge, and also into the Aux to Tape cassette deck in my old af car. I have to get a bluetooth dongle when my new 7+ comes or I will maybe learn to drive w wireless headphones in? But idk if that is safe/legal here so maybe not that.
 
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jk4lebron23

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Apr 6, 2010
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I found some wireless Beats Studios on sale this week so I no longer need to use both at the same time, also can't wait for the BeatsX to come out!

Oddly enough I'm not even an actual beats fan but for the price they sound the best of any wireless I've tried.
 

Mac 128

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regardless of charging, I can no longer use my external accessories like my lavalier or boom mic or even my square reader.

No, the adapter specifically supports the Square card reader, and should support a mono microphone.

What I was wondering about was a stereo Mic.

The 3.5mm adapter presumably only supports a monaural mic input, as the old headphone jack. So the only way to get a stereo input is through the Lightning connector. I have a Blue Yeti USB mic that I use with the Lightning camera connector kit. Unfortunately, I'm not sure if the Belkin splitter will support it if daisy-chained through it.

Are there currently Lightning 3.5mm adapters which allow a stereo input? If not this could be a good thing, simplifying my connection to an iPhone as my mic also supports analogue output.

Currently, this is the only option (and I'm not even sure it would work):

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kyykesko

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Nov 11, 2015
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All the time. Given the crappy battery life of 6+ I *HAVE* to plug it into a charger basically whenever I can. When I wake up I disconnect it from the charger it's been in all night. I drive to work and keep it plugged in to my car's USB port to be charged. I listen to music all of that time. At work I keep it plugged in and.. play music. When I drive back home it's again connected to the car charger and the music is playing from the 3,5mm jack connected to the car stereo. When I get home it usually has between 20-40% charge left, barely enough to use AirMouse to manage our DVR and watch some TV.

Some of us actually use the phone for work, not just Pokemon Go. Many times I skip listening to music because I'd actually run out of battery during the day, and that just can't happen. I'm very sad to hear they still didn't pull their head out of their butts and do an iPhone Pro with a decent battery. Yay, I can google around for a hour more. Or do something else for 15 more. Maybe. Still my phone won't survive even a single work day without needing a charge all the time.
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I do a lot of cross Atlantic flights when I charge and use noise cancelling headset at the same time.... I also frequently use the headset and charge in the car at the same time ( for talking on the phone).... I am upgrading to 7, but mainly because my 6s plus battery is crap and only lasts me half a day

Don't bother. You'll get half a day + 15 minutes with the 7.
 

Brammy

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Sep 17, 2008
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My car doesn't have bluetooth so I use the AUX port, so I charge while I drive and listen to podcasts.

This is a solvable problem with a small bluetooth car adapter though.
 

hallidc

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Sep 26, 2013
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I used to charge my phone while using an Aux cord when driving, however now a days I see newer model cars (not saying all) having bluetooth functionality. I feel many are upset over the change, similar to as they were when Apple changed from the 30-pin connector to the lighting connector. Yes it may be a pain to adjust, but the "issue" won't be an issue for long.
 

iNewbie

macrumors regular
Aug 25, 2006
129
1
I can see the desire to charge and listen to something, granted, you'll be stuck in one spot as your power cable needs to be plugged into an outlet.

Perhaps office workers at a desk job would be the majority of people with this desire?

With that being said, who actually does this and in what situation?

I do. Every single night. At bedtime I'll plug in power and headphones and listen to some audible books before going to sleep. Sometimes I fall a little asleep but then wake up enough to stop it and remove the headphones. I'd probably not have it in my to then swap cable to make sure the phone had enough power to last the night for the alarms to go off in the morning.
 

QquegChristian

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Jun 24, 2010
492
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All these threads/comments about charging while listening to headphones just ignore the existence of portable battery packs. I've had the phone in one pocket and a battery in another pocket too many times to count.

You aren't stuck to a wall outlet.
 

C DM

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Oct 17, 2011
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I'm glad you phrased this question as, "listen to headphones".

The general news and tech media are focusing on listening to music whilst charging, which is something I very rarely do.

That's the wrong question though (unless the purpose is to write a biased article about how removal of the headphone jack doesn't matter - which sadly many journalists will do to stay ingratiated with Apple).

By broadening it out to, "listen to headphones", as you have done, I can now legitimately say more than 50 times.

I like the live video app Periscope but, understandably given what it does, it's a battery hog. I've regularly had to plug in the charger whilst listening to a broadcast on headphones.

Also watching other movie / broadcast / YouTube media, I've plugged in the charger many times whilst on headphones too.

One final example is my sister's kids. They watch movies & tv etc and are always charging whilst using headphones so as not to disturb the rest of the family.

When you add in all these circumstances, it's actually a far more widespread situation than some might think.
It's a fair bit more than that too as for many it's not even about even using headphones but connecting their phone to their vehicle using AUX input, while also being able to charge it.
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All these threads/comments about charging while listening to headphones just ignore the existence of portable battery packs. I've had the phone in one pocket and a battery in another pocket too many times to count.

You aren't stuck to a wall outlet.
There's certainly that too. Which still presents the same kinds of challenges when there's no audio jack.
 
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Mac 128

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It's a fair bit more than that too as for many it's not even about even using headphones but connecting their phone to their vehicle using AUX input, while also being able to charge it.
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There's certainly that too. Which still presents the same kinds of challenges when there's no audio jack.

I don't even see the issue with the AUX jack and charging in the car. If that's the only way to get audio into your car then a $20 BT dongle is an amazing investment that eliminates one of the wires in the car. In this I agree with Apple 100% that this is pushing people that need to be pushed. Even investing in the $40 splitter (for which both high price and bulky design frustrate me) for such a person, is a good investment if only to streamline a persons connecting cables down to one.

And frankly, the battery charger in the pocket while listening anecdote is hysterical. If I found myself in a position where I routinely found myself with an external charger in my pocket while listening to headphones, I'd buy the Apple external battery case in a heartbeat and simplify that mess, maybe two if necessary. Speaking of which, that's the same solution Apple should have included in the box -- a lightning pass through on the charging cable plug.
 

C DM

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Oct 17, 2011
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I don't even see the issue with the AUX jack and charging in the car. If that's the only way to get audio into your car then a $20 BT dongle is an amazing investment that eliminates one of the wires in the car. In this I agree with Apple 100% that this is pushing people that need to be pushed. Even investing in the $40 splitter (for which both high price and bulky design frustrate me) for such a person, is a good investment if only to streamline a persons connecting cables down to one.

And frankly, the battery charger in the pocket while listening anecdote is hysterical. If I found myself in a position where I routinely found myself with an external charger in my pocket while listening to headphones, I'd buy the Apple external battery case in a heartbeat and simplify that mess, maybe two if necessary. Speaking of which, that's the same solution Apple should have included in the box -- a lightning pass through on the charging cable plug.
Well, I guess it could be said that none of it really is an issue if you change what you use (get some dongle or wireless headphones or this or that) and perhaps adjust how you use things (use Bluetooth when perhaps you never even needed to use it before, etc.). It seems like the underlying point is that it's not the same experience as before for those that have been using their devices in particular and fairly typical ways and would no longer be able to do it without something else being needed and/or doing things somewhat differently.
 
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UnluckyXIII

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Feb 20, 2014
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Personally "Never" for me

Although I do see a lot of people who commute on trains that charge their phone and listen to music so I can see it being a hurdle for them to overcome, although we should see some charge/headphone adapters and a larger quantity of budget Bluetooth headphones flood the market in the coming weeks so it won't be as much of a problem (aside from having to remember an adapter or charge your wireless headphones).
 

Howyalikdemapls

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Sep 2, 2013
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All the time. Given the crappy battery life of 6+ I *HAVE* to plug it into a charger basically whenever I can. When I wake up I disconnect it from the charger it's been in all night. I drive to work and keep it plugged in to my car's USB port to be charged. I listen to music all of that time. At work I keep it plugged in and.. play music. When I drive back home it's again connected to the car charger and the music is playing from the 3,5mm jack connected to the car stereo. When I get home it usually has between 20-40% charge left, barely enough to use AirMouse to manage our DVR and watch some TV.
What's the wear level on your battery? The free app "Battery Life" will tell you. It sounds like your battery needs to be replaced, because the 6+ has awesome battery life. Also, if your car doesn't have bluetooth support you can buy a cheap bluetooth receiver for your car for about $15.
 
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