Serious, how many people actually listen to headphones and charge at the same time?

[zet-]

I do at my desk at work. Sometimes I'm listening to/watching a series of podcasts on youtube so it can drain the battery pretty quickly. I do have bluetooth headphones that I use for the gym that I can use at the desk too I suppose, but that's more of an inconvenience (charging the headphones and taking it in and out of my gym bag).

 

[veedubshafer]

I never listen to headphones. I charge my phone 1 time a day. And with the 7 plus having better battery life than the 6 plus I'll be even better off.

 

[Gypsy36]

I do every day - I have an hour commute and charge and listen to music or talk on the phone for meetings each way. My Jeep only has an aux port and I don't use Bluetooth ear pieces. Then when I am at work I sometimes have to plug in during calls because my office is in a bad cell range area and it sucks the battery.

Also, on planes when I watch videos I plug in. No way an eight hour flight of music and video will leave me with any juice at the end of the day.

 

[wozmatic]

I really loathe this line of reasoning. If you can afford one expensive thing, you should be able to afford x other thing too!

I've made my peace with the removal of the headphone jack, but I'm not going to replace the stereo deck in my car just to accommodate my phone, regardless of affordability.

But you're going to replace your phone to the most modern phone on the planet

You can't expect modern technology to forever support old tech right?

The reasoning is more about logistics, our parents and/or grandparents might still use VCR's and play CD's, most of us laugh at that old tech, someone without Bluetooth in their car is on the fringe of being laughable in the same regard.

 

[iindigo]

Basically never. If I'm listening to music or podcasts through my phone, I'm out and about, likely nowhere near a charger. The only other times I'm listening to music are at my desk at home or work where I have a good set of cans paired with a DAC hooked up to my laptop or while sitting on the couch where I play music through the living room entertainment center.

I flop too much to listen to music through earbuds while sleeping, so if I turn on music before going to bed it's probably playing through my iPad at a low volume.

 

[Gypsy36]

someone without Bluetooth in their car is on the fringe of being laughable in the same regard.

Or just not blessed with limitless income.

 

[Supermallet]

But you're going to replace your phone to the most modern phone on the planet

You can't expect modern technology to forever support old tech right?

The reasoning is more about logistics, our parents and/or grandparents might still use VCR's and play CD's, most of us laugh at that old tech, someone without Bluetooth in their car is on the fringe of being laughable in the same regard.

Many people use their cars for 10 to 20 years. Just because I buy the most advanced phone on the planet (and actually I'm skipping the 7 after last night's upgrade program debacle) doesn't mean every single thing I own is the most advanced thing. And it's not like analog headphone jacks are scarce. Every audio device that accommodates headphones has them. Apple would have you believe that the technology is archaic and outdated when the truth is it jut works, which used to be Apple's thing.

 

[oneMadRssn]

You can't expect modern technology to forever support old tech right?

No, but I can expect modern technology to support universal and ubiquitous standards that has no shortcomings and is super reliable. I can also expect modern technology companies to offer an adequate replacement standard before removing the older standard.

Bluetooth is still unreliable - especially in cars. Ask any dealer service center how many people come in for help with Bluetooth, it's a shockingly high occurrence and I know the service folks at dealers hate it. Moreover, no matter how you slice is, Bluetooth sounds worse; this can be especially apparent in newer cars that have good sound systems.

Lightning headphones are more expensive and incompatible with any other device.

I don't disagree that we are moving towards a more wireless world, but I think Apple would have done better by shipping an iPhone 7 with a headphone port, but still including the lightning earpods and launching the airpods, and transitioning all their Beats headphones to use the W1 chip and offer a Lightning cable option with all wired Beats headphones.

Removing floppy, dvd, serial port, firewire, etc, are all great examples of addition by subtraction. Apple removed something, but had already replaced it with something better. Floppy was replaced with CD, and Apple shipped a computer with a CD drive before removing the Floppy. DVD was replaced with iTunes Store downloads, and the iTunes Store was up and running before Apple removed the DVD drive. Serial port was replaced with USB, but USB was available on Macs before Serial was removed. FireWire was replaced with Thunderbolt, but not before shipping a computer with Thunderbolt. Always replaced with something better in every way, before removing the older thing.

This time Apple is replacing something that was nearly perfect with something more complicated and sometimes of worse quality. It's just subtraction... no addition. I wouldn't mind as much if Apple had done more to promote and release lightning audio accessories and their fancy new W1 chip before making this change, to give the industry some time to put out compatible products.

This is the decision right now:
(1) Are you not ready or able to buy new wireless or lightning headphones to replace whichever ones you love right now?
(2) Are you planning to fly anywhere soon and use in the in-flight entertainment?
(3) Do you have a car without bluetooth (or where bluetooth sucks)?
If you answer yes to any of the above questions, then buying the new iPhone 7 isn't even on the table.

For me, it's: (1) Yes, because the model I love (Bose QC20) doesn't have anything even comparable that is wireless or lightning; (2) Yes, there is high-chance of me flying several times and I want to use the in-flight TV; (3) No, but I prefer aux-in for sound quality, and I do charge my phone while in the car all the time.

 

[Press22]

Or just not blessed with limitless income.

A bluetooth deck for a car is around $50-100. Better yet you could just have a iPod(I do this, ipod nano) for your car, or a SD card. Also note my deck is about 6 years old, but it has a USB plug so I'm sure it'll work fine with the iPhone 7.

All of these things cheaper than a iPhone 7.

EDIT: Poll should be: Headphone jack or waterproof/dustproof phone?

 

[Hieveryone]

I only did it after getting the dock actually. Not bc I needed to charge but bc I needed to listen to music and didin't want to take it off the dock.

 

[vlug]

Quite often.

Sat at my desk, sat on a plane/train.

Also whenever my phone is in my car I keep it charging and plug it in to my stereo via 3.5.

And if the iPad loses its 3.5 jack also I will properly be annoyed, because when travelling or watching movies/tv shows I always keep the iPad charging when listening via the 3.5mm port.

 

[Taco1933]

All the time. But my battery has gone to hell recently. Hopefully a combination of a new and longer lasting batter in the 7 will last.

Edit: Those that say never, do you take roadtrips? If I'm using GPS and audio, it just crushes my battery life.

 

[Hankster]

I have never used the headphones while having my iPhone plugged in. Until this year. Several friends of mine speak on Discord and I use the Discord app on the iPhone. It does drain the battery so I'll have the iPhone plugged in while using earphones. So, there is a function to it. Otherwise I would have to disconnect the phone, charge it, and then reconnect the headphones.

 

[Carl Sagan]

I never do this.

 

[GrumpyTrucker]

I do it a lot. I drive a truck and listen to audiobooks or music for approx 9 hours of driving, 5 days a week. There's still a lot of trucks out there that don't have bluetooth but do have 3.5mm aux inputs. With such heavy use I almost always have to charge the phone before the end of my shift, so when using this configuration I always end up having to charge and listen simultaneously. Also, bluetooth earphones don't tend to last 9 hours on one charge (small batteries) and aren't safe to wear when driving anyway.

 

[skiltrip]

I do every day during my commute. Plugged in and headphone jack into car stereo aux jack.

Them dropping the headphone jack pretty much guarantees I'll be hanging onto my 6S for a good long while.

 

[gemnilocs]

It's rare but there are times when traveling when I run out of juice on my bluetooth headphones and then have to take a long phone call while either driving or in an office where another phone isn't available. Admittedly, with a little bit of simple planning the situation can be avoided, but before the solution was simple

this...while traveling, i listen to my music with my beats plugged in because the wireless beats battery dies. so its nice to have the option to do both.i prefer the wireless but for traveling, talking on the phone, drivingnin the car with music or gps and charging

 

[iregret]

I do everyday in my car. I'll get over it.

 

[bufffilm]

Actually, quite often on the iPhone.

On my iPad, I almost always use the speaker. Only time I use ear/headphones on the iPad is when I travel.

 

[douglasf13]

A bluetooth deck for a car is around $50-100. Better yet you could just have a iPod(I do this, ipod nano) for your car, or a SD card. Also note my deck is about 6 years old, but it has a USB plug so I'm sure it'll work fine with the iPhone 7.

All of these things cheaper than a iPhone 7.

EDIT: Poll should be: Headphone jack or waterproof/dustproof phone?

Why? Waterproof 3.5mm jacks have been around for years. That's no reason to remove the jack.

It should probably be something along the lines of headphone jack or taptic engine/new home button, as I'm guessing the taptic engine is taking up the space.

 

[H2K03]

I never do. In fact, I rarely listen to headphones period haha

 

[gsmornot]

I have but don't often. The only time I have needed to charge and use headphones at the same time were a few long calls for work. Typically I use wireless headphones and for only an hour or so per time.

 

[blco02]

Once every couple of weeks. And with the increased battery life of the 7, I don't think I will miss it at all.

 

[wozmatic]

No, but I can expect modern technology to support universal and ubiquitous standards that has no shortcomings and is super reliable. I can also expect modern technology companies to offer an adequate replacement standard before removing the older standard.

Bluetooth is still unreliable - especially in cars. Ask any dealer service center how many people come in for help with Bluetooth, it's a shockingly high occurrence and I know the service folks at dealers hate it. Moreover, no matter how you slice is, Bluetooth sounds worse; this can be especially apparent in newer cars that have good sound systems.

Lightning headphones are more expensive and incompatible with any other device.

I don't disagree that we are moving towards a more wireless world, but I think Apple would have done better by shipping an iPhone 7 with a headphone port, but still including the lightning earpods and launching the airpods, and transitioning all their Beats headphones to use the W1 chip and offer a Lightning cable option with all wired Beats headphones.

Removing floppy, dvd, serial port, firewire, etc, are all great examples of addition by subtraction. Apple removed something, but had already replaced it with something better. Floppy was replaced with CD, and Apple shipped a computer with a CD drive before removing the Floppy. DVD was replaced with iTunes Store downloads, and the iTunes Store was up and running before Apple removed the DVD drive. Serial port was replaced with USB, but USB was available on Macs before Serial was removed. FireWire was replaced with Thunderbolt, but not before shipping a computer with Thunderbolt. Always replaced with something better in every way, before removing the older thing.

This time Apple is replacing something that was nearly perfect with something more complicated and sometimes of worse quality. It's just subtraction... no addition. I wouldn't mind as much if Apple had done more to promote and release lightning audio accessories and their fancy new W1 chip before making this change, to give the industry some time to put out compatible products.

This is the decision right now:
(1) Are you not ready or able to buy new wireless or lightning headphones to replace whichever ones you love right now?
(2) Are you planning to fly anywhere soon and use in the in-flight entertainment?
(3) Do you have a car without bluetooth (or where bluetooth sucks)?
If you answer yes to any of the above questions, then buying the new iPhone 7 isn't even on the table.

For me, it's: (1) Yes, because the model I love (Bose QC20) doesn't have anything even comparable that is wireless or lightning; (2) Yes, there is high-chance of me flying several times and I want to use the in-flight TV; (3) No, but I prefer aux-in for sound quality, and I do charge my phone while in the car all the time.

Well you can always use this is you insist on charging and playing.

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Many people use their cars for 10 to 20 years. Just because I buy the most advanced phone on the planet (and actually I'm skipping the 7 after last night's upgrade program debacle) doesn't mean every single thing I own is the most advanced thing. And it's not like analog headphone jacks are scarce. Every audio device that accommodates headphones has them. Apple would have you believe that the technology is archaic and outdated when the truth is it jut works, which used to be Apple's thing.

Fine, buy the adapter

 

[therfman]

I often listen to music at my desk at work while charging (actually, plugged into my MacBook as a cell modem). I don't really need to charge with the battery life of the 6+, I'm sure the 7+ will be even better with the low-power cores.