LOL are you serious right now?
Complaining about that when the new iPhone is $650
You clearly have an iPhone that works fine so you don't really need to pre-order the 7 bro...
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Serious, how many people actually listen to headphones and charge at the same time?
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LOL are you serious right now?
Complaining about that when the new iPhone is $650
You clearly have an iPhone that works fine so you don't really need to pre-order the 7 bro...
LOL are you serious right now?
Complaining about that when the new iPhone is $650
You clearly have an iPhone that works fine so you don't really need to pre-order the 7 bro...
Not a "bro" and I was referring to the suggestion that I upgrade my vehicle. Not going to happen. And, I currently have a waterproof system so I won't be pulling it out to put in Bluetooth. Don't worry, I'm not ordering the 7.
Never... I have a routine of charging my 6S Plus every night and I have never run out of battery with daily usage except once while flying, and I had my iPad with me so it really wasn't an issue.
Daily. Waze & Spotify drain my phone battery like crazy, so when I get in the car, I plug in the power & the aux plug. Removing that means I will have to swap plugs when my battery gets low & not have music while it charges up.
Well you can always use this is you insist on charging and playing.
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Fine, buy the adapter
Ah yes, $40 adapter to achieve the same functionality as every previous iPhone. Genius!
I am on FaceTime a lot. I review the videos I take a lot. I use the headphones as a remote trigger a lot. I make loads of timelapses etc. And I have a workflow that includes me on my bike sorting out phone calls and in the bus I process what I have shot that day. It saves me hours. Hours that the battery doesn't always pull - especially when you use those battery sucking apps and many at the same time.
Yes, I constantly have my earbuds in, and usually am looking for a spot to charge it. When I shoot things, we need the guarantee that battery doesn't die on us, so we plug in the extra charger. Especially on location - just getting to the location requires logistics and that means you use your device. So you're on it. And to not bother others etc you put earbuds in. It's also easier to hear the other outside, rather than over a speaker etc.
Showing up somewhere after using 20 to 30% and then having to have the phone on for hours in a row, and then travel back and costing another 30% .. charging is required. And just hanging up on people so I can charge for 10 minutes, call them back, and then hang up on the next guy just to find a wall socket etc.. Because I can't have a battery pack in my pocket?
It's stuff I can all do with the current phone, iphone 6splus, and the 7 will require me to adjust the workflow.
The phone should be a tool for me, adjust to my lifestyle, work with me to get things done. It takes courage for a phone to do that haha.
The 7 is the other way around, I have to start adjusting to what the phone wants from me, and learn to live with it.
The first way is the way Apple does things.
The second way is why I don't pick Microsoft.
People have different lives, different reasons.
If you want another example, it's my personal situation. My life is pretty ****, and lonely. I am awake during nightly hours a lot, and when I am up during day time it's to shoot timelapses etc for projects, or meet up with ppl. So yes, when I talk, I try to make the best of it. My albinism comes with some quarks and some include that my time is limited. So waiting for phones to charge and not talk to people, wasting the hours I can use best to be productive is counter-intuitive to me. I need a travel buddy, but with the gps and the live maps and directions, personal assistance etc, and apps that help with figuring out where i am and what bus i need or train to jump , where to walk to etc. Makes me independant and I can do my own things and not require others to be my eyes, etc. The 6splus helps me greatly in this. The 7 will chip away at that independance.
Again, we all use the phones for different things. I hardly make calls over tmobile, I use facetime and skype, whatsapp, etc. My family members never use those, they all pay extra for unlimited calls because they are always on the phone.
My niece listens to spotify while she's on her bike, she's fighting her asthma and improving her health. Listening to music makes time fly faster, and motivates and inspires her to go a little further each time. In return she NEEDS the phone in case things go wrong, or the ambulance is there too late. She needs that charge, the iPhone old models allow for her to have a battery pack in her bicycle and headset in her ears for the music and the facetime calls. The 7, she wont get it, because either she has to compromise to listen less or not at all to any music, bike less distance to guarantee 20% battery time to get home with. Or just risk not getting an attack.
My father for example is around 80 years old, figuring out the great tech of apple, and we use the phone to help him stay focussed and on par with what he was doing. So his mind keeps getting occupied and he can organise his life better, have structure, routine. The phone battery goes down a lot with the extra stuff he's using. He has to stop using the accessories to his phone and stop using it in the car, he needs the earbuds to hear people talk, he can't use the speaker anymore due to old age hearing simply being different. This means he'd just turn his phone off, potentially getting more fuzzy minded and forgetting to double check the agenda, or report back home or even pick up the phone. We'd worry sick again like we used to. Instead of knowing we don't have to anymore.
To sell us a phone that comes with the term , here is the future, just more convenient for you..
And then say, but if you want to charge it, buy this old lightning stand and another pair of headsets that fit in it, because it doesn't have the lightning plug, .. so you can do both things like you always did.. in other words, we will inconvinience you by making you buy more things, and use old tech.. for a phone we want you to buy because of the new tech on it .. is just an insult to the customer. A joke at least.
We don't all just wake up with a phone that was fully charged, not use earbuds, or not use the phone for anything but facebook.
If I wanted a mobile computer and a phone. I'd buy an Android phone without many features, and a macbook air.
But I want a simple solution in my pocket that replaces a crappy smartphone and a big laptop, and still lets me do the same for the things that i do. And without the funds for another iphone just to have one charged at all times, for health reasons, for disability reasons, for just .. convenience reasons, is simply not an option for me.
If you dont want us to use wired headphones apple, dont' include it, don't force us to buy the solution that's wireless and prevented all this.
The title implies you really can't even imagine people actually wanting to use the charger while they are using the earbuds, just means you use your phone differently and aren't open to the idea that others actually have years of experience of using the phone in that way.
Why would I have to pay more to be inconvenienced and why do I have to pay to compromise? The solution is right there, it could have been somewhat waterproof wireless airpods that are included, or at least the option to say, nah, forget the earbuds, replace them with airpods.
My situation is more of two different situations, one of which you mentioned. I work from home and sit at my desk all day so listening to music on my phone and making calls on my phone all day crushes the battery and I like being able to do both. I also like taking calls on my EarPods because hearing a call in stereo is nice.
The other situation is being in my car and using my phone for streaming audio and google maps. I don't have Bluetooth in my car so I have to use and auxiliary port. When you make long road trips that would make it difficult.
Headphone jacks aren't old tech. Everybody still uses them. Anybody that listens to a lot of music uses wired headphones due to battery life and sound quality.
You asked the question. Why not just acknowledge that deletion of the headphone jack isn't for everyone?
Apple worked closely with Belkin on this. The very existence of this adapter the day after the iPhone 7 was released demonstrates conclusively that Apple was aware that this was going to be a problem, and it was going to be necessary to resolve prior to the phones starting to ship.
So there's no point in debating whether it's something people need to do, Apple already KNEW customers did this, in significant enough numbers that they sought out Belkin and worked with them to make sure an adapter would be ready in time to solve the problem before it came up. And they used Belkin so as to avoid the appearance they made a mistake in removing the headphone jack by releasing a whole bevy of Apple adapters to replace the functionality they removed with the 3.5mm Jack, not to mention the cynical view that they removed the jack to charge customers for numerous adapters to provide the same functionality they lost.
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saw this and it made me laugh
That will definitely show up on the MacGuyver reboot this fall.
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It's adequate for my needs. I use it as a second screen to display a browser window or some debug windows.
I don't have a Mac so haven't seen Astropad.
The refresh rate isn't all that great.
With a fully charged iPad, its a competent second monitor with minimal hardware foot print (ipad + cable), until the iPad needs to be charged.
For that I have a few options.
1- just use one monitor when the iPad needs charging
2- get a new laptop that can charge while transmitting data
3- get a powered USB hub.
I went with #3. Which does add to the hardware footprint. Purely a budgetary decision.
Although I would like to try it out plugged into a USB 3 port with the USB 3 lightning cable and see if it boosts performance and at the same time see how it delivers the necessary juice to the iPad. Then I might consider #2
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Or this:
Just realized if I needed to give a presentation with audio using my iPhone 7, and the Apple Lightning to VGA adapter, I would need to do this:
... And I'm not even sure it would work.
I listen to audio almost exclusively in my car where I'm plugged in to a 3.5. Charging is important. Especially on longer trips.
The funny thing is I normally don't charge and listen at the same time. However, today I am traveling on a train and am charging and have headphones plugged in. I am still not worried about losing that ability.
