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Slingbox on iPhone?
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People relax this app is obviously now on the way. I have no idea when but a company does not hire a developer for a single app unless they mean business. And this app would not compete with anything Apple is doing, it merely lets you place shift your cable tv or another video source. There is already a Mac client for this that I use everyday, if Apple were so scared of this app the Mac version wouldn't exist. And why shouldn't Sling charge for the client once it hits the app store, should their hard work be free? Should the developer they hired to create this app do it because he is a nice guy?
It's coming, just be patient.
It's coming, just be patient.
FREE app=sales on more slingboxes
We paid for the hardware already so provide us a usable app.
We paid for the hardware already so provide us a usable app.
SlingMedia charges for all of the different flavors of SlingPlayer Mobile. A client for the iPhone will be no different.
Exactly, however.....They charge $29.99 for the Windows Mobile version (not sure about the other mobile devices). $29.99 is very expensive for the app store. Most developers have set a precedent of less than $10 for their apps, based on this alone Sling might reduce the cost for their iPhone/iPod Touch client. But I wouldn't be a bit surprised if it hit at $29.99. I'd just be thrilled if it shows up on the app store at all.
If you look at my post Number 62, I have worked out the math. For sling to make the $29.99 that they get for the current mobile sling player. They will charge $42.50, so when apple gets their 30% - sling will get $29.75, per app sold. seeing as how mine and my wifes iphones are synced to the same itunes account, I will pay this and we will both have the sling player.
On windows mobile devices I belive if you hve 2 phones you would have to buy 2 seperate licences. which is $60. Someone correct me if I am wrong. I would rather pay $42.50, than $60.
with that difference of $17.50, I can take my wife to the movies. Heck yeah, and watch TV until the movie starts. Oh yeah, Gotta love entertainment.
This will happen just give it some time, sling is in the process of hiring a engineer to finish developing the app.
Good things come to those who wait....in line for 9 hours to get the iPhone 3G
I think it's an ATT product, AT&T TV or some service thing that would be the competitor of SlingPlayer. Why would you pay for their sawed-off service with like 5 shows when you can just watch your full-on cable TV? also seeing how 3g is working with that phone, i'm wondering if they didn't expect all that traffic on the network, and how much worse it will be with people watching monday night football on it. No idea if either issue will prevent the official app from being done or not.
some hack that works would be fine with me though. what a waste of that nice screen.
I don't think ATT TV is the issue. AT&T has not released a single app and something makes me feel like that's part of an agreement with apple. Seriously ATT would be stupid not to have TV and their navigator available if there were no strings
Sling is falling further and further behind. OrbLive 2.0 app released their 2.0.2 version last night to beta testers. This app does include LIVE TV.
You wouldn't happen to have a link REG this would you? I'd like to find out some more.
Orb is quite a different animal though. For live TV via Orb, you need a Windows PC running with a TV Tuner, on and running at all times for streaming. It can be done on a Mac (via VMWare) but its far from an ideal solution compared to Sling (specifically for Video).
I tell you what, Apple is setting themselves up for anti-trust lawsuits with all the blocking they're doing. They're currently blocking turn by turn GPS for reasons that are fairly apparent. Right now everyone's playing nice because they want to get in on AppStore revenue, but if Apple & AT&T doesn't start allowing things like Slingbox's media player or turn by turn GPS from TomTom, they're asking for a justified lawsuit. And they'll lose. One only need look at Microsoft to see the outcome. At the very least they should allow Slingbox's player to work on WiFi only... that would satisfy a lot of business travelers stuck in hotel rooms.
Blocking software on a device because it competes with an existing or future service is just wrong.
On the tethering issue they need to just create a rate plan for it and be done with it. All other smartphones have tethering plans.
AFAIK, Qualcomm's MediaFLO technology is strictly software based on the phone. Naturally you've got to have a somewhat powerful processor, but the iPhone has that. I don't think it's an unreasonable assumption that AT&T may release MediaFLO on the iPhone in the future... it's certainly technically feasible; at the most a firmware update would be required.
So looking at this whole thing from AT&T and Apple's perspective, anything that competes with AT&T's TV offering or Apple's (future?) AppleTV offering would be a bad thing, hence the blockage of Sling on the iPhone.
The network capacity excuse is total B.S. because MediaFLO capable phones are already using the same amount of bandwidth on the same frequencies and channels. AT&T can only use that excuse so long before people start asking questions...
If I were Sling I'd sue. It'd get the ball rolling on a serious issue that likens itself to net neutrality. Case and point: if I can watch YouTube on my iPhone, why can't I watch a competitor's offering? That's a pretty hard question to answer if you're AT&T or Apple, especially if you're SELLING the only other solution.
So looking at this whole thing from AT&T and Apple's perspective, anything that competes with AT&T's TV offering or Apple's (future?) AppleTV offering would be a bad thing, hence the blockage of Sling on the iPhone.
The network capacity excuse is total B.S. because MediaFLO capable phones are already using the same amount of bandwidth on the same frequencies and channels. AT&T can only use that excuse so long before people start asking questions...
If I were Sling I'd sue. It'd get the ball rolling on a serious issue that likens itself to net neutrality. Case and point: if I can watch YouTube on my iPhone, why can't I watch a competitor's offering? That's a pretty hard question to answer if you're AT&T or Apple, especially if you're SELLING the only other solution.
Apples not blocking anything. Tom Tom is set to deliver their Turn by Turn Navigation app to the App store if they haven't already. The latest SDK that was seeded to developers included all the necessary updates and GPS info to provide turn by turn navigation.
Last I read TomTom wasn't expecting to start selling their GPS solution for a while because they were still working out stumbling blocks with Apple. The way I understood it was the stumbling blocks weren't software related. I guess that changed?
For those who do not have a SlingBox yet and have a PC, check out Orb instead because:
a. it's free
b. it already works on the iPhone.
The only caveat is that you need a tv tuner card (and works on PC - not Mac).
The cool thing with this application is that you can also share videos, photos, and audio from your PC.
http://www.orb.com/en/orblive
a. it's free
b. it already works on the iPhone.
The only caveat is that you need a tv tuner card (and works on PC - not Mac).
The cool thing with this application is that you can also share videos, photos, and audio from your PC.
http://www.orb.com/en/orblive
Not one single person on this board knows why there is no Sling app yet. Everyone that is saying Apple is blocking them from the App store is just assuming.
I'm pretty sure that if Sling had a ready to go app (which I don't think they do since there is a job posting for this position) and Apple denied them, Echostar would have its lawyers in court.
There has not been any mention from Sling that they have a ready app, so why don't we talk about how THAT is the reason it's not in the app store, instead of creating conspiracies about Apple and AT&T?
MediaFLO is hardware. It's basically a built-in digital TV receiver. The advantage is that it doesn't require any data connection to work, since it gets its info over the air just like an oldtime TV set. The downside is that there are relatively few transmitters in the country.
You're probably thinking of MobiTV, which is video sent over the internet. However, it requires a client with a realtime streaming protocol (RTSP) player, which the iPhone is missing.
Source?
The SDK already had GPS data, which is all TomTom et al needed. What was added was helper code for dumber apps that might want to display direction and speed.
Tell me then why my flash player only works on youtube videos. Why not liveleak? Or any other competing website? You're right, no one knows why the Sling media player isn't on the app store. But I think it's a little bit naiive to assume that AT&T and Apple are going to do what's in the best interest of its customers. Apple has already proven itself time and time again that it isn't interested in fairplay. Jobs says he's all for elimination of DRM, yet AppleTV, the iPhone, and the iPod cannot play open media formats like xvid, wmv, etc. Furthermore they intentionally tie the iPod/iPhone products to iTunes. Why do you think that is? Because all other competing formats threaten iTunes sales. Every other online music store is on the verge of collapse because of Apple's ingenious plans. Eventually the only way to legally purchase music will be iTunes or your record store. Amazon might survive, but only as a DRM-less alternative to those still clinging on to Creative MP3 players.
If Apple or AT&T have something to lose you can bet they'll try and find away to block it. TV on cell phones is the next big thing. AT&T isn't just going to sit and watch some cheap solution canabilize its next major revenue stream.
Hey, you may be right. I hope you are. But I personally think it is a conspiracy to dominate what type of data travels over wireless networks. ISP's need to know that any attempts or overtures at discrimination will be met with resistance by its customers. I'm personally not content to just sit idly and watch my options fade away... The more you give to these buttheads the more they'll take away in the name of network management.
Thanks for the clarification on MediaFLO. So phones do require some sort of physical hardware to receive the transmission, correct? Is the transmission on a different channel of the wireless band?
And yeah, I think I was thinking of MobiTV. I used to have it on my Treo and it was always available on 3G phones from AT&T.