All Devices So, I’m assuming... Mail is just gonna stay broken...

[NollindW]

Yeah. I’ve stopped caring. Apple can’t fix Mail. I assume it’s part of the overall RAM problems that plague iOS 13. I frequently get Safari page reloads with the notice “this page has reloaded because a problem occurred.” I’ve never had that problem in my 16 years of OS X/iPhone usage.

I‘ve been doing a variety of aggressive testing on my 6th Gen iPad since iOS 13.4 and I could almost swear that memory management issues in iOS 13 are partially related to the Mail app (or perhaps iOS 13 subsystems which use the Mail app uses).

I did a compete restore when iOS 13.4 was released and within a day or two I was noticing memory management issues as bad as previous updates, of which Mail and Safari were the worst.

While playing with the Mail app settings, I realized that if I switched my Fetch settings (for getting my Google Mail) from 15 Minutes back to the default of Automatically, the memory management issues on my entire device were reduced dramatically.

I then restored my iPad again and this time decided not to use the Mail app at all but just used Google‘s Gmail app. Again I saw another huge jump in memory management performance, with page reloads occurring way, way less in a variety of apps (Safari, YouTube, etc).

As of right now, my memory management is way, way better then it was but still not as good as it was in iOS 12. This is why I think some subsystem of iOS 13 is corrupted in some.

What’s weirdest of all though is I don’t understand how this issue seems to ramp up over time after an install. For example, if you do a complete restore, Mail and Safari (and memory management in general) are great, seeming to work perfectly in the first few hours. But within two to three days, everything seems to degrade dramatically back to whet they were before the restore.

So what’s going after a restore or initial setup? Something is occurring in the background that is supposed to normally "optimize" the device in some way but whatever the bug is, that optimization process actually degrades the device instead. I would love to know what’s going on in the background in the first few days of a device being setup.

 

[Isamilis]

I‘ve been doing a variety of aggressive testing on my 6th Gen iPad since iOS 13.4 and I could almost swear that memory management issues in iOS 13 are partially related to the Mail app (or perhaps iOS 13 subsystems which use the Mail app uses).

I did a compete restore when iOS 13.4 was released and within a day or two I was noticing memory management issues as bad as previous updates, of which Mail and Safari were the worst.

While playing with the Mail app settings, I realized that if I switched my Fetch settings (for getting my Google Mail) from 15 Minutes back to the default of Automatically, the memory management issues on my entire device were reduced dramatically.

I then restored my iPad again and this time decided not to use the Mail app at all but just used Google‘s Gmail app. Again I saw another huge jump in memory management performance, with page reloads occurring way, way less in a variety of apps (Safari, YouTube, etc).

As of right now, my memory management is way, way better then it was but still not as good as it was in iOS 12. This is why I think some subsystem of iOS 13 is corrupted in some.

What’s weirdest of all though is I don’t understand how this issue seems to ramp up over time after an install. For example, if you do a complete restore, Mail and Safari (and memory management in general) are great, seeming to work perfectly in the first few hours. But within two to three days, everything seems to degrade dramatically back to whet they were before the restore.

So what’s going after a restore or initial setup? Something is occurring in the background that is supposed to normally "optimize" the device in some way but whatever the bug is, that optimization process actually degrades the device instead. I would love to know what’s going on in the background in the first few days of a device being setup.

Interesting observation. Thank you. Fortunately my usage didn’t required me to use Mail, and my experience with 13.x is quite good.
thanks.

 

[scouser75]

Well, if you guys these problems are bad, check the latest for me here! https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/a-very-concerning-security-issue-on-el-capitan.2230156/

 

[CTHarrryH]

Some of the mail issues people have talked bout here I didn't have until the latest release - now it seems to be getting worse

 

[magicdesign]

Any idea how many people have issues? I.e. is it everyone, but some don't notice? Or device specific? Or email provider specific?
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I have issues with both Gmail and iCloud, so assume it is not provider specific

 

[Blue Hawk]

I have reported one bug. I had the problem that it doesn’t showed up my new mail. Reported it a few days ago but it still says I am the only one who reported it. But thank god the Mail app does work for me for this moment.

tvOS feedbacks are switching one day later to „under 10“.

 

[magicdesign]

Ok, so but the bullet and did a restore from iTunes and then restore from backup.

so far, email is now behaving normally.

 

[StumpyBloke]

Ok, so but the bullet and did a restore from iTunes and then restore from backup.

so far, email is now behaving normally.

I guarantee you it will not last.

 

[magicdesign]

I guarantee you it will not last.

No ‘it just works’ anymore.

hope you are wrong. I’ll update if it craps itself again.

 

[scouser75]

Ok, so but the bullet and did a restore from iTunes and then restore from backup.

so far, email is now behaving normally.

Are you getting emails Pushed as they should be? Or do you have to wait for emails to show after you open the app?

 

[magicdesign]

My gmail is 15 min fetch. Coming through promptly with auto notification working. Before reset, it wasn’t working at all.

 

[scouser75]

My gmail is 15 min fetch. Coming through promptly with auto notification working. Before reset, it wasn’t working at all.

I've got to say with Gmail - I receive email notifications quicker on my gmail account than I do on my iCloud account. How odd for this to happen on an Apple device!!!

 

[magicdesign]

I've got to say with Gmail - I receive email notifications quicker on my gmail account than I do on my iCloud account. How odd for this to happen on an Apple device!!!

Also, and off topic, my gmail app on iPhone gets the email faster than my gmail app on Android.

 

[scouser75]

It's a weird first world problem ridden world we live in!!! 😂

 

[Jack Neill]

I switched to Outlook when 13 hit GM and mail sucked. Never looked back.

 

[scouser75]

I switched to Outlook when 13 hit GM and mail sucked. Never looked back.

Are you using an icloud email address or other?

If icloud, what's the best way to use outlook without duplicating all my emails? Many years ago I tried outlook for my icloud email account and all my emails were duplicated.

 

[Aika]

Are you using an icloud email address or other?

If icloud, what's the best way to use outlook without duplicating all my emails? Many years ago I tried outlook for my icloud email account and all my emails were duplicated.

I use Outlook for my Gmail, iCloud and Outlook email addresses with no issues.

Hands down the best email client on iOS.

 

[dogg]

Outlook for me started displaying the exact same issues as stock Mail. I’ve downloaded again so may try one last time. I’ve had my 11 pro swapped out quite recently so set up as new. Stock Mail worked for a while but then started to go down the same route. I am in 13.4.5 and no change to stock Mail either.

 

[CTHarrryH]

I have the problem that many are having on my iPhone but not my iPad. On my iPhone I have a gmail account, iCloud and an exchange account. On my iPad I don't have the exchange account. Anyone else having the problem on 1 device but not another

 

[Jack Neill]

Are you using an icloud email address or other?

If icloud, what's the best way to use outlook without duplicating all my emails? Many years ago I tried outlook for my icloud email account and all my emails were duplicated.

I don’t use iCloud email. Just Exchange and Gmail

 

[Aika]

I wonder how many of these issues are down to iCloud still being a dumpster fire. I "upgraded" Reminders.app and all my tasks got either doubled or trebled.

Not that Mail.app isn't one also.

 

[Tech198]

This not delivering email until the app is opened its ridiculous.

am I missing something? This isn’t a feature is it?

i always thought is was the service issue than an app issue..

eg.. Gmail may not automatically come in, but will do when you use their OWN app..

That's understandable, as they wanna promote their own free service. However, as of late, i kinda side with "its a Apple problem"

The see-saw sways back and fourth too much...

 

[magicdesign]

Ok, so but the bullet and did a restore from iTunes and then restore from backup.

so far, email is now behaving normally.

Day 3 after reset. Mail is still working as it should

 

[iRutherford]

I never noticed this bug because I am always on Low Power Mode. Didn't know this was a huge issue. Hope it gets fixed! It'll totally suck not getting important emails in a timely manner.

 

[scouser75]

Day 3 after reset. Mail is still working as it should

So Mail is received instantly and downloaded in the background, so that when you open the app new emails are ready and waiting? Also, Reminders sync between Mac and iDevice?