Part of the reason the PC screen may look brighter is that Apple’s display is 1000 nits on HDR content only, which Tomb Raider may not be. Otherwise it’s 500 nits and he’s said that the PC screen was 600 nits. Apple should be a bit more clear on that front. Also the PC looked over saturated, like Laura looked more orange than she should in a few scenes even with the lighting. Different color profiles make a difference too.
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So M1 Max with 32 Core GPU matches RTX 3080 Mobile.
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Part of the reason the PC screen may look brighter is that Apple’s display is 1000 nits on HDR content only, which Tomb Raider may not be. Otherwise it’s 500 nits and he’s said that the PC screen was 600 nits. Apple should be a bit more clear on that front. Also the PC looked over saturated, like Laura looked more orange than she should in a few scenes even with the lighting. Different color profiles make a difference too.
You can clearly see the benchmark is done with HDR off (in his setting the toggle is off), so yes 500 nits. And your correct, PC is brighter but way more saturated.
That game is translated through Rosetta and not optimized for M1 and it still managed a higher frame rate than on the PC.
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His 3080 FPS are a bit off compared to Lenovo Legion 3060 at similar TGP.
3060 100W
3060 100W with DLSS quaiity
Here's MBA M1 for comparison. I think I need to upgrade to M1 Max.
Hope he's not pulling something like this guy who has VSYNC on because I'm seeing around double on 3060.
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Why do you keep posting this already discredited comparison? The settings are not the same. Resolution is higher in the video when compared to the screenshots. A person might think you have an ulterior motive!
Are we sure Tomb raider isnt cpu limited at 1080p high settings? The GPU utilization in the video seem low.
I’m not sure of anything with that video! I wouldn’t be surprised to see an unoptimized game on Mac lose to the pc. My point is the comparison between he screenshot and the video is worthless, and mi7chy knows it.
I wonder how much of a boost the Thinkpad would get with Exclusive Fullscreen enabled.
Interesting. I’ll be honest, I have no clue why the 3080m is doing as poorly as it is.
1 fps less without 'exclusive fullscreen' but that's within margin of deviation between test runs.
No idea. I don’t think it’s that poor, but in general I don’t think that guys videos are great. He was measuring power usage at the outlet, which is … interesting. Moreover, we can make excuses about the pc, but it shows how far we’ve come in terms of performance that we’re now looking for reasons the Mac is winning. If a totally unoptimised game on a Mac is close to the performance of a 3080m, that’s a win.
Doesn't even give me that option on the built-in 16:9 aspect ratio display. Might have to connect an external display.
Update: Results with external display.
3060 100W 1200p
3060 100W 1200p with DLSS quality
Btw, Steam has a sale on the Tomb Raider series if you want to do your own tests.
https://store.steampowered.com/sale/TombRaider25
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So time to change your sig then...?
"Open to trade my MBA M1 16GB/256GB for gaming laptop with 6800m dGPU."
Results where the higher resolution gets better score seems suspect. Better wait for more reliable benchmarkers…like phoronix.
I have the game, but my 6900 scores aren’t really that helpful to the conversation. Lol.
It is possible. Look at the GPU bound percentage. It increased with raising the resolution. Which likely means at the settings that are getting tested he is mostly CPU bound not GPU bound.
Sure but mi7chy has mislead and lied so frequently I am reluctant to trust any score they post. Especially given the anandtech review shows lower results for the 3060 and the 3070.
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If I had to guess:
1) At that resolution, it may in part be CPU bound and the CPU for that particular laptop can’t keep up. You guys have discussed this possibility already.
2) He mentioned he often tests that laptop with an external cooler and would do so again. Given the fan noise it was making, that chassis may be unable to handle the combined CPU/GPU heat and is throttling even during the relatively short time of the bench.
How is this possible? Only Apple doesn’t understand proper cooling. Only Apple’s laptop need additional cooling. Intel laptops (other than MacBooks of course) always have adequate cooling to not thermal throttle. /s
Michy, I noticed you want to trade your MBA M1 16GB/256GB. Apple have a great trade in scheme, you can even arrange it all on the Web.