Some days I feel like ditching Apple

[Blaze4G]

And? So what. I dealt with plain old SMS for many people for three years. Being able to iPhone some/many of them now is a bonus that in addition doesn't change how iMessage works. Moreover, in my experience iMessage sends better MMS to non iMessages users than my Android phones did MMS.

iMessage is the SMS app on iPhones. There isn't an iMessage app and an SMS app. On BB BBM and text were seperate apps. Yes you could change the default BBM configuration so you can have contacts in your bb contacts list SMS messages in BBM but that was not nearly as seamless as iMessage. And a new text would always come into the SMS app, not BBM. So I don't agree that BBM was akin to iMessage.



Mike

Yeah I agree, iMessages sends better MMS than any android stock text messaging apps I've used. Although their are third party apps that does just as well.

I guess I am not explaining my point right. I am just saying you would be less inclined to stick with iPhones because of iMessages if most of your family or friends stop using it. It would still be a great SMS app. However it would not be as critical.

 

[dinggus]

This x1000 is by far the main reason i keep going back to the iPhone. iMessage is a godsend when it comes to sending pictures and video. Sure, I could just email them for better quality on Android but the people I'm sending to wouldn't want to deal with that. I still get annoyed at my mom's android phone destroying picture quality when I text them to her. Finally got her to check email for the full resolution ones. If Apple and Android somehow in fantasy land said "hey lets both make iMessage the new standard" then I'd be on Android tomorrow.

I haven't had any images received in lower quality? Guess I don't know what you're talking about.

 

[Michael Goff]

I think most people conflate the two, iMessage and being able to text using their phone number through an iPad. The average person is just that, average.

 

[nfl46]

Its very difficult for me to have an Android device as a primary device. Not being have to use iMessage, Facetime and the iTunes is very challenging for me...especially Facetime. Everyone I know has an iPhone and missing those iMessage group chats and Facetime calls (on the fly) are huge deal breakers for me. Just the other day, I was able to view some of a family member wedding on Facetime as it was happening. Unfortunately, I was unable to make it (was trying to rush to the airport), but it was nice to have been able to experience some of it. If, I had my Android device, and left my iPhone, I would have missed it.

 

[Tinmania]

Yeah I agree, iMessages sends better MMS than any android stock text messaging apps I've used. Although their are third party apps that does just as well.

I guess I am not explaining my point right. I am just saying you would be less inclined to stick with iPhones because of iMessages if most of your family or friends stop using it. It would still be a great SMS app. However it would not be as critical.

I can agree with that. I wish iMessage was open for all platforms.



Mike

 

[Seiga]

I can agree with that. I wish iMessage was open for all platforms.



Mike

Hate to say it, but the day you see imessages on all platforms is the day you see garage band and final cut pro come to all PC based platforms. It just won't happen.

 

[lowendlinux]

Hate to say it, but the day you see imessages on all platforms is the day you see garage band and final cut pro come to all PC based platforms. It just won't happen.

They can keep all the above

 

[Tig Bitties]

No back button is a major WTF

I am more of an Android fan, having owned like 14 different Android phones, and two iPhone's. Last winter I said I will be open minded and give a legit 30 day trial to the new iPhone 6 Plus, with a Jailbreak too.

End of the day, yes the build quality was fantastic on my iPhone 6 Plus, the battery was off the charts amazing, I didn't see Screen On time in the battery stats, but with my experience it sure felt better than my best ever Android phones for battery life which were my ROM'd Note 2, and OnePlus One on Kit Kat ROM's, that would give me over 7h Screen On time, the 6 Plus would best both those phones for battery life.

The 1080p screen on the 6 Plus seemed pretty damned good, but no Note 5 screen that's for sure.

But overall it was iOS 8 at the time that killed it for me, iOS just seems like a cluster **** mess, and very inconsistent, and ZERO customization, the duplicate notifications, and just notifications in general I did not like, and default apps not changing to what I wanted, just a very frustrating experience, that I tried hard for almost a month to really force myself to use, but so many limitations, and roadblocks just killed the fun for me. NO BACK BUTTON !!!!! By the end of the month I was just pissed off with the phone, after trying so hard to get used to it, but never comfortable.

Bottom line, the iPhone 6 Plus was great hardware, beautifully crafted device, fantastic battery, but iOS just blew IMO. For me to come back to like an iPhone 7 Plus, iOS 10 needs a MAJOR overhaul.

The Jailbreak helped the iPhone look better, and offered at least some customization, but still paled in comparison to a Nexus

 

[KAB2010]

I haven't had any images received in lower quality? Guess I don't know what you're talking about.

Really? It's a fact across any phone and carrier that pictures and videos texted are HEAVILY compressed, thus destroying the original quality.

 

[bgro]

Regarding the highlighted above...as you said, a phone is just a phone. Your mom or dad may walk into a store when they are due for an upgrade and see an android phone for half the price. The sales agent shows them and tells them it does the same thing as an iPhone...as you said...to most people a phone is just a phone.

All it takes is one person to switch....one person to love the look of X phone and decide to switch. Your mom could drop her phone tomorrow and break the screen. She may then decide let me get something cheaper this time so if it breaks it is not such a big deal. These are just random scenarios that is not specific to your parents or family.

True but usually people stick with what they know. Although now with subsidies going away I can see people ooting for one of the great lower cost android phones out there. Interesting to see what's going to happen over the next few years

 

[Michael Goff]

Weirdly enough, I might be leaving the iPhone soon. And I just got the 6S+ recently. And it'd be to the S6 again.

 

[I7guy]

True but usually people stick with what they know. Although now with subsidies going away I can see people ooting for one of the great lower cost android phones out there. Interesting to see what's going to happen over the next few years

Carriers are providing interest free loans. My guess this is not going to make a difference. If people go with low cost android note series, Galaxy series, HTC and Apple are losers.

 

[Blaze4G]

I think most people conflate the two, iMessage and being able to text using their phone number through an iPad. The average person is just that, average.

Carriers are providing interest free loans. My guess this is not going to make a difference. If people go with low cost android note series, Galaxy series, HTC and Apple are losers.

Lol you're right! If people go with Apple they are definitely losers. Glad you said it yourself. It's good to not be in denial.

 

[Blaze4G]

True but usually people stick with what they know. Although now with subsidies going away I can see people ooting for one of the great lower cost android phones out there. Interesting to see what's going to happen over the next few years

True, if people have to start buying phones upfront, full cost...I think this would drastically hurt higher priced phones. As you said, time will tell.

 

[I7guy]

Lol you're right! If people go with Apple they are definitely losers. Glad you said it yourself. It's good to not be in denial.

Yep, denial is not just a river in Egypt.

 

[Michael Goff]

Lol you're right! If people go with Apple they are definitely losers. Glad you said it yourself. It's good to not be in denial.

No, don't try to mess with words. The iPhone is a great device for people who don't want to be technical. There is nothing wrong with that. Smartphones for the masses should be that way.

 

[Blaze4G]

No, don't try to mess with words. The iPhone is a great device for people who don't want to be technical. There is nothing wrong with that. Smartphones for the masses should be that way.

Lol I was just making fun because it seems like he made a typo in his post.

I have recommended iPhones to various friends based on what they want. Usually it was based on if they wanted a great camera. Androids has catched up though.
At the moment the only other reason I would recommend an iPhone is for their great customer service.
I personally don't find iPhones easier to use. However if something does go wrong, it is much easier imo to resolve whatever problem on an iPhone.

 

[Michael Goff]

Lol I was just making fun because it seems like he made a typo in his post.

I have recommended iPhones to various friends based on what they want. Usually it was based on if they wanted a great camera. Androids has catched up though.
At the moment the only other reason I would recommend an iPhone is for their great customer service.
I personally don't find iPhones easier to use. However if something does go wrong, it is much easier imo to resolve whatever problem on an iPhone.

Mea Culpa.

I assumed you were being serious.

 

[dinggus]

Really? It's a fact across any phone and carrier that pictures and videos texted are HEAVILY compressed, thus destroying the original quality.

I guess I just don't care enough for a photo from a phone to be compressed if sent via text.

 

[Frankied22]

I have been using a 5X side by side with my 6S the past couple weeks and I think iMessage is a very big deal if you know a lot of people who use it. I don't even want to put my SIM in my 5X because everyone I talk to uses iMessage and they are not going to switch to <insert message app> just to message me. I have group chats with friends through iMessage. It's a shame because I am starting to really like the 5X. However, not having nice ad blockers like on iOS really makes web browsing on android a disaster. I am forced to use Firefox with uBlock Origin but I want to use Chrome. Also, I quickly realized how much I missed having a reading mode in a browser. It's nice in Safari to just tap one icon and the article just turns into text.

 

[Tig Bitties]

I have been using a 5X side by side with my 6S the past couple weeks and I think iMessage is a very big deal if you know a lot of people who use it. I don't even want to put my SIM in my 5X because everyone I talk to uses iMessage and they are not going to switch to <insert message app> just to message me. I have group chats with friends through iMessage. It's a shame because I am starting to really like the 5X. However, not having nice ad blockers like on iOS really makes web browsing on android a disaster. I am forced to use Firefox with uBlock Origin but I want to use Chrome. Also, I quickly realized how much I missed having a reading mode in a browser. It's nice in Safari to just tap one icon and the article just turns into text.

I'm confused, what's the big deal with iMessage ? When I briefly had my iPhone 6 Plus last winter for 30 days, yeah I used iMessage, but I didn't see it being super cool or any better than the text apps on my Android phones, like Textra or Google Messenger.

And as far as AdBlock on Android, there are some really good ones, like AdAway, that with Chrome Dev. work awesome, I never see ads on Chrome, and it's very fluid fast

 

[Frankied22]

I'm confused, what's the big deal with iMessage ? When I briefly had my iPhone 6 Plus last winter for 30 days, yeah I used iMessage, but I didn't see it being super cool or any better than the text apps on my Android phones, like Textra or Google Messenger.

And as far as AdBlock on Android, there are some really good ones, like AdAway, that with Chrome Dev. work awesome, I never see ads on Chrome, and it's very fluid fast

I don't think it's that imessage is any better than other messaging apps its just that it's installed already and it does SMS/MMS and messaging seamlessly so people don't need any other app. If another person has an iPhone it just instantly sends an imessage. Like I said, a lot of my family and friends use iPhone and they're not about to create an account on some third party application just to message me.

I've heard of AdAway and I'll be trying it once my USB to USB-C cable arrives. I have to root the phone to install it which I'm not thrilled about but whatever. It's pretty dumb that Google doesn't ship the 5X with a USB to USB-C cable.

 

[Tinmania]

I guess I just don't care enough for a photo from a phone to be compressed if sent via text.

Photos are not degraded nearly as much as videos. Videos usually look horrible when sent via MMS.

The reason for this, as I understand it, is that MMS uses mobile data yes they are usually included in plans as part of unlimited text messaging (even though MMS use data that data is not counted towards your data plan). So carriers limit the size of MMS messages.

So looking at it one way you can send all the MMS messages you want and not affect your data usage, which is plus. That is why, when iMessage first came out, people were suddenly noticing an increase in data usage. That was twofold. One, iMessage does use mobile data and, two, images and videos are sent at much higher quality than MMS.



Mike

 

[petvas]

I'm confused, what's the big deal with iMessage ? When I briefly had my iPhone 6 Plus last winter for 30 days, yeah I used iMessage, but I didn't see it being super cool or any better than the text apps on my Android phones, like Textra or Google Messenger.

And as far as AdBlock on Android, there are some really good ones, like AdAway, that with Chrome Dev. work awesome, I never see ads on Chrome, and it's very fluid fast

Why not use Firefox wit the adblock extension?

 

[dinggus]

I'm confused, what's the big deal with iMessage ? When I briefly had my iPhone 6 Plus last winter for 30 days, yeah I used iMessage, but I didn't see it being super cool or any better than the text apps on my Android phones, like Textra or Google Messenger.

And as far as AdBlock on Android, there are some really good ones, like AdAway, that with Chrome Dev. work awesome, I never see ads on Chrome, and it's very fluid fast

I don't think it's that imessage is any better than other messaging apps its just that it's installed already and it does SMS/MMS and messaging seamlessly so people don't need any other app. If another person has an iPhone it just instantly sends an imessage. Like I said, a lot of my family and friends use iPhone and they're not about to create an account on some third party application just to message me.

I've heard of AdAway and I'll be trying it once my USB to USB-C cable arrives. I have to root the phone to install it which I'm not thrilled about but whatever. It's pretty dumb that Google doesn't ship the 5X with a USB to USB-C cable.

I've never seen an ad using Chrome on my Nexus 5.

As for iMessage, your friends and family don't need to get an additional app, they can just send you a text, I don't know anyone who has a plan that doesn't offer unlimited texting.

I even moved out of the states for work and use TextNow to text friends and family and none of them have complained.