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Blaze4G

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I had the 6P (sold it) along side my 6s+ and N5 and it got less battery life of the 3 phones. The 6s+ was tops then the N5 then the 6P despite running stock marshmallow.

Wondering if you misread what I said. I was in agreement that the 6s+ gets better battery life than the 6p.
 
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petvas

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I agree that the 6S Plus has a better battery life than the Nexus 6P, but battery life is not everything. After two years of going back and forth between iOS and Android, the Nexus 6P won me over. Despite the fact that I am deep into the Apple ecosystem, I prefer Android as a mobile OS. The main reasons for me are:
  • Widgets: I just love having them and getting information at a glance. The iOS notification center is cumbersome to use.
  • Homescreen: I hate the way iOS does not let me position icons where I want them to! Android is much better in this regard.
  • Multitasking: Apps in Android really multitask. This is not the case in iOS and I really hate it the way it works.
  • Folders: I do not like the way iOS handles folder animations. Why must they take the whole screen? Why??? Which idiot designed that? Have a look at how folders work in Android...
As long as Apple does not solve these fundamental flaws I cannot go back to iOS.

Of course Android is not perfect, but the Nexus 6P is by far the best smartphone I have ever used. I am very happy with it.
 
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The Game 161

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I agree that the 6S Plus has a better battery life than the Nexus 6P, but battery life is not everything. After two years of going back and forth between iOS and Android, the Nexus 6P won me over. Despite the fact that I am deep into the Apple ecosystem, I prefer Android as a mobile OS. The main reasons for me are:
  • Widgets: I just love having them and getting information at a glance. The iOS notification center is cumbersome to use.
  • Homescreen: I hate the way iOS does not let me position icons where I want them to! Android is much better in this regard.
  • Multitasking: Apps in Android really multitask. This is not the case in iOS and I really hate it the way it works.
  • Folders: I do not like the way iOS handles folder animations. Why must they take the whole screen? Why??? Which idiot designed that? Have a look at how folders work in Android...
As long as Apple does not solve these fundamental flaws I cannot go back to iOS.

Of course Android is not perfect, but the Nexus 6P is by far the best smartphone I have ever used. I am very happy with it.

All depends on your needs and whats best for you.

I love my 6S plus as I'm back to a dependable phone that I know will just work with no lag and no issues. My S6 edge was a joke and was a laggy mess by the end and was happy to sell it. Because of this it has kind of put me off smaller samsung phones. I realise not all android phones are like this as I have had S4, S5, note, 3 and 4.

The way IOS syncs with all my apple devices is perfect. So it will be tough to go back android now but I certainly wouldn't rule having an android device as a 2nd option. Still love tech so will always be interested in new android devices.

We go with what our needs are at the end of the day
 

nj1266

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I agree, the 6s plus / 6 plus still gets better battery life than the 6p by a noticeable amount, I would guess-timate about 1.5 hours more SOT / 5-6 hours more usage in my experience.

It seems that your results are in agreement with Anandtech's standardized testing. But Anandtech is not acceptable according to some.
 

nj1266

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I had the 6P (sold it) along side my 6s+ and N5 and it got less battery life of the 3 phones. The 6s+ was tops then the N5 then the 6P despite running stock marshmallow.
Another person that agrees with Anandtech's battery results. But Oh my God, Anandtech are so wrong.
 

maxsix

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I could never ditch my iPhone imessage is by far the best thing Apple have ever created Imo....
Apple's messaging system is nearly a carbon copy of the old BlackBerry Messenger. I used it for years back then and now on my iPhone 6 Plus. For personal use as implemented by Apple it's OK but nothing impressive, except to big ego users that love to brag.

I'd enjoy hearing just what it is that has captured your emotions, making this one aspect of iPhone use so crucial to your happiness?
 

Blaze4G

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It seems that your results are in agreement with Anandtech's standardized testing. But Anandtech is not acceptable according to some.
Is your head buried that far into the ground? Wow.

In real world the 6s plus is better than the 6p which anandtech confirms in testing. In real world the 6p has much better battery than the g4 and 5x which anandtech states the opposite.

So why should I believe what a random test say when my real world experiences are different?

P.s. I am still waiting on your counter over on the other thread for the note 5 vs iPhone 6s plus battery life thread. I will remind you daily if needed.
 
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jamezr

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Another person that agrees with Anandtech's battery results. But Oh my God, Anandtech are so wrong.
The benchmarks are sets of numbers to simulate real world usage and are guidelines on what your results MIGHT be like. I have had most of the phones in the graph. I know from real world usage and experience that the 6P gets better battery life than the G4. I have had both phones. What do you base your experience on? I don't think Anandtech is one of the best in the business. That's my opinion......
Just for fun Google "smartphone battery life comparison 2015" and you will get so many contradictory battery life results to prove my point.
So should I take this graph that shows the iphone doing poorly getting bested by the Moto E 2015?

BTW....this is from Anandtech as well. So were they right then too?

Oh my God, Anandtech are so wrong.

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph9129/73291.png


73291.png
 

I7guy

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Apple's messaging system is nearly a carbon copy of the old BlackBerry Messenger. I used it for years back then and now on my iPhone 6 Plus. For personal use as implemented by Apple it's OK but nothing impressive, except to big ego users that love to brag.

I'd enjoy hearing just what it is that has captured your emotions, making this one aspect of iPhone use so crucial to your happiness?
I had a blackberry for four years and didn't use bbm anywhere near the way iMessage is used.

there is really nothing special about iMessage over any other sms type communication except it's native, supports pictures, videos and sound clips and just works with other iPhone users.
 

The Game 161

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Imessage is awesome as it syncs through all devices, Thats why it is a key part of my devices. I don't need my phone to text certain people and can text from my macbook or ipad. It works perfectly for that reason
 
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Dreads

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Apple's messaging system is nearly a carbon copy of the old BlackBerry Messenger. I used it for years back then and now on my iPhone 6 Plus. For personal use as implemented by Apple it's OK but nothing impressive, except to big ego users that love to brag.

I'd enjoy hearing just what it is that has captured your emotions, making this one aspect of iPhone use so crucial to your happiness?
Well I've never owned a blackberry so iv never experienced it on there system the main reasons I enjoy I using iMessage as stated above you can send pictures files etc another plus for me is I like to no poeopl have actually seen my messages rather than just no it's mearly been delivered it's also been a very flawless service for me to use.... It does indeed make me very happy....!
 

petvas

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I am using WhatsApp. It is available on both iOS and Android and works very well. iMessage is great if you communicate with other Apple users. Apple should really release iMessage on Android..
 

tbayrgs

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Apple's messaging system is nearly a carbon copy of the old BlackBerry Messenger. I used it for years back then and now on my iPhone 6 Plus. For personal use as implemented by Apple it's OK but nothing impressive, except to big ego users that love to brag.

I'd enjoy hearing just what it is that has captured your emotions, making this one aspect of iPhone use so crucial to your happiness?

I don't think iMessage is anything miraculous but I personally find it invaluable because my regular messaging is done with an overwhelmingly high percentage of iPhone users. By comparison, no third party messaging solution comes anywhere near the number of users amongst my contacts, not even close. The best alternative would be standard SMS/MMS, which is archaic comparatively. Consequently, moving to Android is a huge step down in regards to messaging, and would take some pretty significant alternate benefits to sway me to give it up.
 

bgro

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iMessage is great for me mainly because of sending video files. My wife sends a bunch of videos of the kids and they come thru perfectly over iMessage. Mms video looks like crap
 

steve knight

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I agree that the 6S Plus has a better battery life than the Nexus 6P, but battery life is not everything. After two years of going back and forth between iOS and Android, the Nexus 6P won me over. Despite the fact that I am deep into the Apple ecosystem, I prefer Android as a mobile OS. The main reasons for me are:
  • Widgets: I just love having them and getting information at a glance. The iOS notification center is cumbersome to use.
  • Homescreen: I hate the way iOS does not let me position icons where I want them to! Android is much better in this regard.
  • Multitasking: Apps in Android really multitask. This is not the case in iOS and I really hate it the way it works.
  • Folders: I do not like the way iOS handles folder animations. Why must they take the whole screen? Why??? Which idiot designed that? Have a look at how folders work in Android...
I do like widgets but the today screen is great too. more app access and you can access it from the lock screen too Hue and smart things are much better from the today screen. apples notification screen lets yo bread more info like for emails and multiple emails. iOS could use the clear all button. I hate the way iOS arranges icons for sure. I would like widgets on iOS and the today on android. I found the lock screen almost useless on the android not sure on multitasking but apps were often closed on the android and ended up taking longer to open on my s6. audio ducking was horrible on the s6 every little sound would stop playback for a bit before it started up. the ability to have the home screen in whatever location was nice.
 

steve knight

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iMessage is great for me mainly because of sending video files. My wife sends a bunch of videos of the kids and they come thru perfectly over iMessage. Mms video looks like crap
yes plus it is easier to send stuff especially if you have a mac.
 

petvas

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There is no doubt that for the majority of people that use a Mac, an iPhone is the better choice. Syncing is given and you do not have to worry about anything. I would come back to iOS if it solves the issues that bother me (especially the folders and animations). When I use an iPhone I have the feeling that the OS is an afterthought! It was not designed for large screens. The back button of most apps is on the top left corner, as most UI elements. Yes, there are gestures, but they are not available everywhere. On Android the back button is located on the bottom left. Much easier to reach.
Another thing that I do not want to lose, are the soft buttons, especially the soft button that accesses the multitasking menu on Android. I always found it very cumbersome to double click on the home button to access multitasking on iOS.
Also, I do not understand the hype of 3D Touch, even if other OEMs will of course follow in 2016 with similar features. Having to press stronger and more deeper to access app options seems unnatural to me. Most of the times it is easier to just open an app and do whatever you want. Also, why have 3D Touch? Why not just press a little bit longer to access similar menus? I forgot, it is because Apple is using this to rearrange home screen icons. On Android I see no need for 3D Touch at all.
3D Touch is unintuitive and strange to use, as many other things that Apple has brought on the market the last 18 months. I am beginning to believe that now we see Apple without Steve Jobs. His influence is nowhere to see anymore..
 

epicrayban

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There is no doubt that for the majority of people that use a Mac, an iPhone is the better choice. Syncing is given and you do not have to worry about anything. I would come back to iOS if it solves the issues that bother me (especially the folders and animations). When I use an iPhone I have the feeling that the OS is an afterthought! It was not designed for large screens. The back button of most apps is on the top left corner, as most UI elements. Yes, there are gestures, but they are not available everywhere. On Android the back button is located on the bottom left. Much easier to reach.
Another thing that I do not want to lose, are the soft buttons, especially the soft button that accesses the multitasking menu on Android. I always found it very cumbersome to double click on the home button to access multitasking on iOS.
Also, I do not understand the hype of 3D Touch, even if other OEMs will of course follow in 2016 with similar features. Having to press stronger and more deeper to access app options seems unnatural to me. Most of the times it is easier to just open an app and do whatever you want. Also, why have 3D Touch? Why not just press a little bit longer to access similar menus? I forgot, it is because Apple is using this to rearrange home screen icons. On Android I see no need for 3D Touch at all.
3D Touch is unintuitive and strange to use, as many other things that Apple has brought on the market the last 18 months. I am beginning to believe that now we see Apple without Steve Jobs. His influence is nowhere to see anymore..

Your points about the back button and app switcher are spot on.

I go even further with the back button in saying not only is it hard to reach the upper left corner on larger devices, but also the back button isn't consistently in the same place, which drives me nuts. Sometimes it's a cancel button in the upper right or center of the screen. Sometimes it's at the bottom left or right or center. On android devices not only is the back button much easier to reach, it's always in the same place. Navigating on android is leagues easier and more intuitive.
 
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I7guy

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There is no doubt that for the majority of people that use a Mac, an iPhone is the better choice. Syncing is given and you do not have to worry about anything. I would come back to iOS if it solves the issues that bother me (especially the folders and animations). When I use an iPhone I have the feeling that the OS is an afterthought! It was not designed for large screens. The back button of most apps is on the top left corner, as most UI elements. Yes, there are gestures, but they are not available everywhere. On Android the back button is located on the bottom left. Much easier to reach.
Another thing that I do not want to lose, are the soft buttons, especially the soft button that accesses the multitasking menu on Android. I always found it very cumbersome to double click on the home button to access multitasking on iOS.
Also, I do not understand the hype of 3D Touch, even if other OEMs will of course follow in 2016 with similar features. Having to press stronger and more deeper to access app options seems unnatural to me. Most of the times it is easier to just open an app and do whatever you want. Also, why have 3D Touch? Why not just press a little bit longer to access similar menus? I forgot, it is because Apple is using this to rearrange home screen icons. On Android I see no need for 3D Touch at all.
3D Touch is unintuitive and strange to use, as many other things that Apple has brought on the market the last 18 months. I am beginning to believe that now we see Apple without Steve Jobs. His influence is nowhere to see anymore..

I think the bolded is a good thing. Apple will either prosper or fail. All companies have to change and evolve and make adjustments. Apple doesn't have a choice, the ghost of SJ is not running the company.

I may agree with you on 3d touch, but there are still people who like to input their password instead of using touch id. Not everybody has similar views on the introduction of new technology.
 

steve knight

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Your points about the back button and app switcher are spot on.

I go even further with the back button in saying not only is it hard to reach the upper left corner on larger devices, but also the back button isn't consistently in the same place, which drives me nuts. Sometimes it's a cancel button in the upper right or center of the screen. Sometimes it's at the bottom left or right or center. On android devices not only is the back button much easier to reach, it's always in the same place. Navigating on android is leagues easier and more intuitive.
yes one handed needs a back button. but it should stop from exiting a app. I found it somewhat inconsistent between apps and some apps it just exited.
 

tbayrgs

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Also, I do not understand the hype of 3D Touch, even if other OEMs will of course follow in 2016 with similar features. Having to press stronger and more deeper to access app options seems unnatural to me. Most of the times it is easier to just open an app and do whatever you want. Also, why have 3D Touch? Why not just press a little bit longer to access similar menus? I forgot, it is because Apple is using this to rearrange home screen icons. On Android I see no need for 3D Touch at all.

First, do you own an iPhone 6s/6s+ and actually used 3D Touch? I suspect not because you don't have to press very much 'stronger and more deeper' to utilize it. I won't disagree that it may not seem intuitive but we all are dealing with years of muscle memory to accomplish these tasks on our phones. I still don't use 3D Touch nearly as much as I could either but like you, I've been doing things for a certain way for quite a while now and it does take some experimenting and trial and error. But now that many more developers have implemented some 3D Touch functionality and I've been using it for a while, I'm using it more and more. Just because we're comfortable doing things a certain way that we've done them for a while doesn't mean it's necessarily the best method, does it? If 3D Touch has come first and you were now being asked to going into an app first, would you have the same opinion?

Also, concerning the statement in bold--how exactly to you rearrange the icons on your Android home screens? In order to do it on mine, I have to long press the icon. ;)
 
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