Yeah, I agree it's worthy of discussion, and in some sense feel like the reason Tim Cook is discussing it is because it became a discussion topic so he felt he needed to address it, plus it was a new type of product for Apple which made it worthy of discussion as well (given that a battery case or even portable charger hasn't been something that Apple themselves have released before). As far as what it might mean and all that, in a larger sense, I think that's where there's being more attributed to it all than necessarily applicable. In the sense of it being combined with various other things to sort of string together observations, I can see that playing a role--although that's certainly still based on interpretations of different people--but on its own (and quite a bit of commentary has really been focused on it just on its own), it doesn't seem like it really says much one way or another.
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Some days I feel like ditching Apple
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You forgot one thing, though. It's an Apple thread about why people want to ditch Apple,w hich means it'll likely speak negatively about Apple.
And some people will have none of that. Even when it's been proven point blank and beyond obvious (and using his own criteria, which is the best part) that they don't play fair.
I'm new to this forum but if the forum makers put up an area that states alternatives to Apple devices then surly youve gotta expect negative Apple comments over one thing or another Apple users myself included should not pop in this part of this forum and then tell non Apple users that there opinions are wrong... Only sayin.!!!!!!
If the iPhone 7 gets even thinner, which leads to a smaller battery, Apple can make up for it by offering quick charging and/or wireless charging. And perhaps even better software optimization that they're known for, or even more options for power saving modes.
Samsung lost user-removable battery, but at least gave users quick charge, which is indeed quick. Saved me many times. They also gave wireless charging. Useful and convenient. They also have two power saving modes, one of them called "Ultra" power saving which turns the phone into essentially a dumb phone. I luckily haven't had to use it, but it's an option for those rare instances you are desperate to keep your device alive. And Ultra saving mode is no joke. I forget the exact numbers, but it can turn something like 1 hour of life left to 10 hours of life left. It's a big deal.
If Apple can do that, then it'll help make the thinner/smaller battery more manageable and forgiveable.
Samsung lost user-removable battery, but at least gave users quick charge, which is indeed quick. Saved me many times. They also gave wireless charging. Useful and convenient. They also have two power saving modes, one of them called "Ultra" power saving which turns the phone into essentially a dumb phone. I luckily haven't had to use it, but it's an option for those rare instances you are desperate to keep your device alive. And Ultra saving mode is no joke. I forget the exact numbers, but it can turn something like 1 hour of life left to 10 hours of life left. It's a big deal.
If Apple can do that, then it'll help make the thinner/smaller battery more manageable and forgiveable.
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It gets worse than that. Not only do they come around here telling us we're wrong, but they come here stating very clearly and openly that they would never get a Samsung device or any other non-Apple device, which means they are being willfully and proudly ignorant on many topics at hand here in the Alternatives...
and/or...
Will literally have two very different responses even based on the their very own criteria depending on if you're talking about an Apple product or Samsung product.
It's wild!
And worse, we're the ones that get in trouble when they're called out for being trolls.
I do a lot of carp fishing at weekends and I hammer an experia z2 tablet for watching films TVs shows etc I always end up using the systems stamina mode to see me through the whole weekend....if my phone had a similar option to do that I would be rather happy and that's an alternative to iOS creation that I'm rather happy with.....
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I have no doubt iPhone 7 will have some form of quick charging. Apple can't fall that far behind.
How long did it take before NFC came to Apple? Apple takes their time. There was absolutely no reason why NFC wasn't included in the 4s-5s. They have a knack for falling far behind times.
Nice way to connect the dots. Not. But to be on your page ditching Apple because you don't like their battery pack? Ok.
Well unofficially it does support much faster charging (about same as my 6P give or take) if you use an iPad charger. Don't know why they simply don't give people the iPad charger instead of the weaker iPhone one from the outset or at least publicise the fact the iPad charger speeds up charging.
You and I both know why. So apple can invent quick charging for the iPhone 7.
That and of course up-selling which Apple are experts at
I have the two devices side by side on charge right now. Both were at 50% (49 & 52 to be precise) when put on charge. About 30 minutes later both are around 85%
I'm using the iPad charger with the iPhone and the USB C charger that came with the Nexus 6P
So regardless of 'specs' both are giving me a similar experience & speed in charging in 'real world' usage.
Yes I do know that and yet the smaller battery device has better battery life in real world usage too. Go figure ....
You're comparing OS then... Sigh.... Everyone knows iOS is contoured for the iPhone ecosystem. The battery is optimized for that. Android is completely different due to the many manufacturers. Now you're just arguing for the sake of arguing.
And I get 2 days of battery on every day use with the 6P (Dose is amazing on Marshmallow). My wife struggles with everyday use on her 6 Plus having to charge up early evening.
Well, there was a reason, it wasn't part of Apple's design for those phones. As far as whether or not it should have been there at that time, that's a somewhat different question. Perhaps it would have required a change in the design of the phone design or parts that weren't quite available in the numbers Apple would have needed them or would have used up more battery than Apple would have liked to at the time, etc. That's not to say those are right or good reasons necessarily, just that there likely were reasons. That said, for some more basic things, like increasing RAM or something like that, those have had longer cycles than they likely should have.
This reason alone is why Apple has fallen behind the innovation train. It's also the most political statement you could possibly make as an excuse to exclude something.
There was more to that reply by the way since cutting it up doesn't represent it. As far as innovation, well, there's something to jumping on something in its early stages with whatever limitations and issues it might have, and then there's something to taking something that is more established and incorporating it in its better and perhaps more useful form and hopefully making it and/or its applications better and/or more useful in the process.
Actually YOU were the one who started comparing. I don't give a crap which OS is running or the specs as long as the experience is the same between my devices. And that's the point. Big battery, smaller battery, fast charger or iPad charger, if the end result is about the same I don't give a monkey's uncle.
Your wife's usage is not the same as your own. Using her as an example is flawed.
Doze has not been great for me on 2 different 6P's. It still does not compare to the standby of the iPhone, and regardless I'm less concerned about how much battery my device juices through when I'm not using it than when I am. The 6 Plus and 6S Plus have both in my experience had more consistent and longer battery life than the plethora of android devices I've had and still have this year. The Nexus 6P isn't even as good as the Note 5 or Edge + battery life or standby wise on lollipop despite them having lesser battery capacity too.
Anyway this is distracting from the point I was making in the first instance which was simply the iPad charger charges the iPhone much faster. End of.
Not every post someone makes has to be turned into a feckin contest, yet you turned it into one. One I'm not interested in partaking in.
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The reason why I cut it was to prove a point. You can explain all you want, but the first sentence is all I needed to read. All you did was try to justify your first sentence. Hence why I didn't quote any more than that.
I'll tell you this, Samsung did mobile payments right. And they were first with their tech. Google and Apple can't even compare with NFC. Google will soon include that same technology in Android Pay, and Apple will be far behind... Oh and if you don't know, Samsung Pay works on Any POS terminal that has a card swipe since their devices reads off of the magnets. Only thing holding them back is bank support, which all services are struggling on (Apple and Android Pay).
Doesn't charge faster than the 6P does which you compared it to (rate of charge). It's proven! And you brought up usage. I simply stated in my first post the hardware as well as the numbers between the amps and watts. You just seem to have a big epeen love for Apple and try to use touch and feel tests to prove your point. I have quantitative numbers to support me.
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