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Look, guys, both your phones are beautiful. Can we just agree to that? And that both provide a good experience?
 

Radon87000

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I OWN a S7 Edge. And I have owned a 6s plus. I speak from experience. The iPhone is not as bad as you want to make it be. Get real dude. Numbers do not mean everything. The screen is sharp and clear. Like I said, it doesn't have the POP factor, but it is still rated high on quality of the display in ratings.
The S Plus screen is already way sharper than the 6s.I am comparing it to the normal 6s.The Plus version already renders at 2K and is downsampling it to 1080P.Upscaling and downscaling to a lower resolution increases sharpness which is why NVIDIA DSR is used in games.The normal iPhone 6s has 750P.

But the Plus variant might as well not exist for me because its too damn large.

Even so as you so rightly said the S7 screen still pops more.You know the hilarious part of this is when iPhone 8 comes out with the OLED screen we will have members all over this forum yelling how the iPhone 8 screen wipes the floor with the iPhone 6 screen:rolleyes:

Dont forget the S7 Edge has been scientifically proven to be the best display on the planet by Displaymate
 
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The S Plus screen is already way sharper than the 6s.I am comparing it to the normal 6s.The Plus version already renders at 2K and is downsampling it to 1080P.Upscaling and downscaling to a lower resolution increases sharpness which is why NVIDIA DSR is used in games.The normal iPhone 6s has 750P.

But the Plus variant might as well not exist for me because its too damn large.

Even so as you so rightly said the S7 screen still pops more.You know the hilarious part of this is when iPhone 8 comes out with the OLED screen we will have members all over this forum yelling how the iPhone 8 screen wipes the floor with the iPhone 6 screen:rolleyes:

Again, false. You are a Samsung fanboi blinded by Samsungs Oversaturated colors and sharpness. There is a reason why people who do photography use IPS panels over LED screens.
 

Radon87000

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Again, false. You are a Samsung fanboi blinded by Samsungs Oversaturated colors and sharpness. There is a reason why people who do photography use IPS panels over LED screens.
lol.Is Displaymate a Samsung fanboy too?You seem to be stuck in the Past.OLEDs are now as good as IPS LCD in color accuracy if not better
http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_S7_ShootOut_1.htm

"The Best Smartphone Display"

"The Galaxy S7 matches or breaks new records in Smartphone display performance"


"The Basic screen mode on the Galaxy S7 is tied with the Galaxy Note 5 for the most accurate display colors of any smartphone or tablet display that we have ever tested"

"The Highest Screen Brightness and Contrast in High Ambient Light"

"Interactive Personalized Automatic Brightness that Works Well"

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OLEDs have now evolved and emerged as the premium mobile smartphone display technology. There is no better confirmation of this than a series of recent well founded rumors from a number of prominent publications that Apple will be switching the iPhone to OLED displays in 2018, or possibly 2017 for premium models.



OLED displays provide a number of significant advantages over LCDs including: being much thinner, much lighter, with a much smaller bezel providing a near rimless design, plus a very fast response time, better viewing angles, and an always-on display mode. Many of the OLED performance advantages result from the fact that every single sub-pixel in an OLED display is individually directly powered, which results in better color accuracy, image contrast accuracy, and screen uniformity.



Because of their very flexible power management capabilities, OLEDs are not only more power efficient than LCDs for most image content, but they now deliver much higher peak Brightness than LCDs because of this. However, for mostly all white screen content LCDs are likely to remain brighter and more power efficient for a while. OLED displays can also be manufactured on flexible substrates, which allows the screens to be curved and rounded like on Samsung’s Galaxy Edge and Galaxy Round displays. Right now the curved flexible OLED displays are protected under rigid glass, but in the near future OLED products will be foldable and flexible.



Apple’s rumored move to an OLED iPhone is simply a recognition of all of the above, particularly as more and more competing smartphones come with OLED displays."
 

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lol.Is Displaymate a Samsung fanboy too?You seem to be stuck in the Past.OLEDs are now as good as IPS LCD in color accuracy if not better
http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_S7_ShootOut_1.htm

"The Best Smartphone Display"

"The Galaxy S7 matches or breaks new records in Smartphone display performance"


"The Basic screen mode on the Galaxy S7 is tied with the Galaxy Note 5 for the most accurate display colors of any smartphone or tablet display that we have ever tested"

"The Highest Screen Brightness and Contrast in High Ambient Light"

"Interactive Personalized Automatic Brightness that Works Well"

"
OLEDs have now evolved and emerged as the premium mobile smartphone display technology. There is no better confirmation of this than a series of recent well founded rumors from a number of prominent publications that Apple will be switching the iPhone to OLED displays in 2018, or possibly 2017 for premium models.



OLED displays provide a number of significant advantages over LCDs including: being much thinner, much lighter, with a much smaller bezel providing a near rimless design, plus a very fast response time, better viewing angles, and an always-on display mode. Many of the OLED performance advantages result from the fact that every single sub-pixel in an OLED display is individually directly powered, which results in better color accuracy, image contrast accuracy, and screen uniformity.



Because of their very flexible power management capabilities, OLEDs are not only more power efficient than LCDs for most image content, but they now deliver much higher peak Brightness than LCDs because of this. However, for mostly all white screen content LCDs are likely to remain brighter and more power efficient for a while. OLED displays can also be manufactured on flexible substrates, which allows the screens to be curved and rounded like on Samsung’s Galaxy Edge and Galaxy Round displays. Right now the curved flexible OLED displays are protected under rigid glass, but in the near future OLED products will be foldable and flexible.



Apple’s rumored move to an OLED iPhone is simply a recognition of all of the above, particularly as more and more competing smartphones come with OLED displays."

The folks around my office who are hard core Apple die hards typically won't acknowledge anything until Apple adopts it.



"OLEDs suck."

*Apple releases OLED iphone*

"Apple just changed the game..reinvented....etc"
 
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KillaMac

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Again, rumors doesn't make it true that Apple is going to OLED. Like I said, IPS technology won't die. It is better for realistic colors. Samsung phones over-saturate their colors badly.
 

Radon87000

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The folks around my office who are hard core Apple die hards typically won't acknowledge anything until Apple adopts it.



"OLEDs suck."

*Apple releases OLED iphone*

"Apple just changed the game..reinvented....etc"
Yeah just wait till Apple adopts OLED in 2017.It will be the best display ever once Apple uses it.I am gonna quote all these users on thier statements once Apple comes out with OLED
 
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The folks around my office who are hard core Apple die hards typically won't acknowledge anything until Apple adopts it.



"OLEDs suck."

*Apple releases OLED iphone*

"Apple just changed the game..reinvented....etc"

Apple invented the watch.
 
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Radon87000

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Again, rumors doesn't make it true that Apple is going to OLED. Like I said, IPS technology won't die. It is better for realistic colors. Samsung phones over-saturate their colors badly.
KGI Securities Analyst is 95% of the time right on the money when it comes to Apple predictions and he has said the iPhone 2017 is gonna have OLED not to mention the countless other analysts and the best part is they are getting these OLEDs from Samsung.Its almost foolish to not believe the guy who has an outstanding track record
 

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I have to lol at this as when I go out running in iffy whether I bring a plastic bag for my bt earbuds. The 6s is water resistant not worried about that. However the cpu and performance seems to be the first thing fan sites check out, so it's not a far flung thought this is the smoking gun...
awesome.... the S7 does not need to be encased in a plastic bag during a run in iffy weather. So by outward appearances it would seem "light years" ahead of someone that would place their phone in a plastic bag.....thanks for confirming.
 

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awesome.... the S7 does not need to be encased in a plastic bag during a run in iffy weather. So by outward appearances it would seem "light years" ahead of someone that would place their phone in a plastic bag.....thanks for confirming.
Thanks for confirming you didn't read the post and posted a reply to something I never said. "I said the 6s is water resistant and not worried about it". The plastic bag is for the head phones.
 
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The S7 arguably having "the best display on the planet' doesn't actually mean anything in day to day use. All top tier phones released have pretty fantastic displays. You don't watch media BETTER because of the display, emails don't dance and sing due to the display, text messages don't change, etc. I'm not sure what the point to all this is. Is the argument that the 6S display is...bad?
 

I7guy

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The S Plus screen is already way sharper than the 6s.I am comparing it to the normal 6s.The Plus version already renders at 2K and is downsampling it to 1080P.Upscaling and downscaling to a lower resolution increases sharpness which is why NVIDIA DSR is used in games.The normal iPhone 6s has 750P.

But the Plus variant might as well not exist for me because its too damn large.

Even so as you so rightly said the S7 screen still pops more.You know the hilarious part of this is when iPhone 8 comes out with the OLED screen we will have members all over this forum yelling how the iPhone 8 screen wipes the floor with the iPhone 6 screen:rolleyes:

Dont forget the S7 Edge has been scientifically proven to be the best display on the planet by Displaymate
Not scientifically, they have an opinion. You dont prove things "scientifically". You can measure something and then make a judgment call based on the measurements, but it's an opinion.

My scientific opinion is the over saturation and pentile display of Samsung oled gives me a headache. I really hope Apple has something up its sleeve.
 

Fanaticalism

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Again, rumors doesn't make it true that Apple is going to OLED. Like I said, IPS technology won't die. It is better for realistic colors. Samsung phones over-saturate their colors badly.
Has nothing to do with IPS. I know what you're getting at, but the reality is that the type of panel is not what determines color accuracy. It's the way the display is calibrated or the controls put in to allow for granular adjustment. Samsung doesn't use IPS on their flat panels. They typically use things like SPVA, PVA, ASV etc. and they are the most color accurate tvs money can buy (PVA is the best of all worlds) because their base has a tight tolerance and their color management system is fantastic. IPS has the benefit of better viewing angles so you get less color shift as you move off axis at the expense of contrast.

People make the association of IPS=Better color because that is what Apple has used so we tend to make that association.

OLED, like plasma is the superior technology due to better contrast which is the most difficult thing to achieve (infinite black and light due to being emissive vs transmissive). Cost and resources are what hamstring OEM when it comes to producing high quality displays. That, and what they believe helps sell more which is why manufacturers typically choose a more saturated, cooler image (appears brighter) for retail demos.
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Not scientifically, they have an opinion. You dont prove things "scientifically". You can measure something and then make a judgment call based on the measurements, but it's an opinion.

My scientific opinion is the over saturation and pentile display of Samsung oled gives me a headache. I really hope Apple has something up its sleeve.


Hmm... You're pretty good at spin, lol.
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The S7 arguably having "the best display on the planet' doesn't actually mean anything in day to day use. All top tier phones released have pretty fantastic displays. You don't watch media BETTER because of the display, emails don't dance and sing due to the display, text messages don't change, etc. I'm not sure what the point to all this is. Is the argument that the 6S display is...bad?
I think you hit the nail on the head. At this stage, all displays are pretty good in most premium handsets. People will always have a preference and that is ok. It's sets us apart. The world would be pretty boring if we all liked the same things!
 
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Not scientifically, they have an opinion. You dont prove things "scientifically".

This is factually true. As I have explained previously in this very thread.

Folks do not seem to understand the difference between proof and science. It's a common mistake and misconception.

Referring to a single set of displaymate test result. They are indeed evidence, they are not however scientifically proven.

Proofs exist only in mathematics and logic, not in science. Mathematics and logic are both closed, self-contained systems of propositions, whereas science is empirical and deals with nature as it exists. The primary criterion and standard of evaluation of scientific theory is evidence, not proof. All else equal (such as internal logical consistency and parsimony), scientists prefer theories for which there is more and better evidence to theories for which there is less and worse evidence. Proofs are not the currency of science.

Proofs have two features that do not exist in science: They are final, and they are binary. Once a theorem is proven, it will forever be true and there will be nothing in the future that will threaten its status as a proven theorem (unless a flaw is discovered in the proof). Apart from a discovery of an error, a proven theorem will forever and always be a proven theorem.

In contrast, all scientific knowledge is tentative and provisional, and nothing is final. There is no such thing as final proven knowledge in science. The currently accepted theory of a phenomenon is simply the best explanation for it among all available alternatives. Its status as the accepted theory is contingent on what other theories are available and might suddenly change tomorrow if there appears a better theory or new evidence that might challenge the accepted theory. No knowledge or theory (which embodies scientific knowledge) is final. That, by the way, is why science is so much fun.

Further, proofs, like pregnancy, are binary; a mathematical proposition is either proven (in which case it becomes a theorem) or not (in which case it remains a conjecture until it is proven). There is nothing in between. A theorem cannot be kind of proven or almost proven. These are the same as unproven.
 
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I think you hit the nail on the head. At this stage, all displays are pretty good in most premium handsets. People will always have a preference and that is ok. It's sets us apart. The world would be pretty boring if we all liked the same things!

You have been warned before about using common sense here ;) ;)
 
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The S Plus screen is already way sharper than the 6s.I am comparing it to the normal 6s.The Plus version already renders at 2K and is downsampling it to 1080P.Upscaling and downscaling to a lower resolution increases sharpness which is why NVIDIA DSR is used in games.The normal iPhone 6s has 750P.

But the Plus variant might as well not exist for me because its too damn large.

Even so as you so rightly said the S7 screen still pops more.You know the hilarious part of this is when iPhone 8 comes out with the OLED screen we will have members all over this forum yelling how the iPhone 8 screen wipes the floor with the iPhone 6 screen:rolleyes:

Dont forget the S7 Edge has been scientifically proven to be the best display on the planet by Displaymate
Unfortunately what you have to say that may be relevant to the conversation is always overshadowed by generalizations and hyperbole. This post is no exception.
 

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Great and important start by Cook to reference the Orlando shootings. A+.
[doublepost=1465839606][/doublepost]I really like the universal copy and paste. Many times I wished for that using my iPad and going to the Mac.

Just like Pushbullet had it, it's a very useful feature. My favorite thing I've seen about macOS so far.

PS. Craig Ferdirigi is easily my favorite Apple presenter. He seems more humbled, more genuine, and his jokes aren't forced. He seems overall more comfortable and confident.


[doublepost=1465840183][/doublepost]MacOS Sierra looks great. Hope it's free again this year... EDIT: Yes.
[doublepost=1465840521][/doublepost]The iOS raise to wake feature. Yes.

But question: isn't he able to access a lot of stuff without unlocking the phone now? Or is it accessible because he's wearing an Apple Watch and it's telling the iPhone it's safe to use?

Right? Isn't anyone wondering that?
 
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It's using smart unlock - I assume it is similar to how it works on android devices.

Gotcha. That's what I thought. That's a bummer for people who aren't interested in the Apple Watch (or smartwatches in general) cause it's a great feature as I'm sure any Motorola fan can attest to.
[doublepost=1465841604][/doublepost]Apple Music presenter... so awkward...
 

MRU

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Gotcha. That's a bummer for people who aren't interested in the Apple Watch (or smartwatches in general) cause it's a great feature as I'm sure any Motorola fan can attest to.

We will have to wait and see how it works but the notifications look very good now and with the improvements to notification centre and control centre which were needed. Quicker access to camera will be handy too.

I want to know with the expanded cloud features in MacOS & iOS are going to change they going to increase free icloud storage from the limited 5gb ?

Its great they have a facility that can free up your device storage to the cloud - but we need greater capacity and cheaper cloud storage options.
 
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