Some days I feel like ditching Apple

[epicrayban]

Just curious but what is the relation between the Apple Watch and the new lock screen?What do you mean act on the notifications using Apple Watch?Raise to wake shows the lock screen but what's Apple Watch got to do with it.

In order to act on the notifications that you have when you Raise to wake, you need to have an Apple Watch to smart unlock. Otherwise, you have to use your fingerprint scanner as normal with the iPhone to act on the notifications (reply, etc.).

Raise to wake is still a nice feature on its own (as any Motorola fan can attest to, I'm sure), but to fully take advantage of the new feature, you need smart unlock.
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Likewise. No real interest in owning a smart watch myself either.

Yep. Apple rewards those who invest fully in their ecosystem. It's not difficult to understand where the arguments of feeling "locked down" comes from.

For some, it'll keep them in the Apple ecosystem. For others, it'll drive them away.

 

[MRU]

In order to act on the notifications that you have when you Raise to wake, you need to have an Apple Watch to smart unlock. Otherwise, you have to use your fingerprint scanner as normal with the iPhone to act on the notifications (reply, etc.).

Raise to wake is still a nice feature on its own (as any Motorola fan can attest to, I'm sure), but to fully take advantage of the new feature, you need smart unlock.

They may eventually allow you to designate other smart unlock parameters such as 'safe location' ...

But unless you use no security there isn't much way around it to use it without unlocking unless you are given option to display notification content regardless of locked status (though you would still need to unlock to respond to them).

 

[epicrayban]

Even the MacBook smart unlock feature with the Apple Watch, that sounds great, but requires an Apple Watch. So those who aren't interested in smartwatches lose out on yet another useful feature.

 

[Roadstar]

This is annoying indeed. If I weed out all the stuff that's not available in Finland, there's not that much interesting stuff in iOS 10 aside from the Siri API. I was actually most impressed by the watchOS part.

And now that I noticed that the Siri API doesn't actually allow audio apps to use the API, the whole API could just as well not exist at all. I was hoping for a possibility to control music and podcasts in my car with the apps I actually use, but apparently that's too much to ask for.

 

[epicrayban]

They may eventually allow you to designate other smart unlock parameters such as 'safe location' ...

But unless you use no security there isn't much way around it to use it without unlocking unless you are given option to display notification content regardless of locked status (though you would still need to unlock to respond to them).

Hopefully. We all know Apple plays the slow game. People can call it being "focused" if they want, but whatever people think it is, it's slow.

And also hoping they complete the "delete iOS apps" feature, too, by allowing full on third party defaults. And when I say "full on" I don't mean the poor job they did of implementing third party keyboards. Such a feature would seem to go hand in hand with what they announced, but again, Apple plays the long/slow game. Following up with allowing users to set default apps would make sense and I am hoping is in the works for iOS 11.

Once again, 2017 looks like the better iPhone to get. Both software and hardware-wise, they just aren't going to do the job for me this year. It's Android until things come through in 2017. Unless Apple surprises us this Fall.

 

[Casfin]

And no mention of something as simple as a dark mode?

I could enable a dark mode on my 386 computer.

I'm sick of the locked down iOS. I get why, and I see some of the benefits, but the fact you can't do something as simple as a dark mode, a few different themes, is rather annoying.

 

[jamezr]

In order to act on the notifications that you have when you Raise to wake, you need to have an Apple Watch to smart unlock. Otherwise, you have to use your fingerprint scanner as normal with the iPhone to act on the notifications (reply, etc.).

Raise to wake is still a nice feature on its own (as any Motorola fan can attest to, I'm sure), but to fully take advantage of the new feature, you need smart unlock.

I like the raise to wake so far on IOS 10 on my 6s+. But it would work even better if I didn't have to push the home button in to unlock my screen. I like the FP scanners on the 6P and HTC 10 that can unlock the phone without having push the home button. I would love to see Apple do this with the iPhone some time.

 

[epicrayban]

I like the raise to wake so far on IOS 10 on my 6s+. But it would work even better if I didn't have to push the home button in to unlock my screen. I like the FP scanners on the 6P and HTC 10 that can unlock the phone without having push the home button. I would love to see Apple do this with the iPhone some time.

Absolutely. Since forever, I've been wishing for Apple/Samsung to move away from physical home buttons. HTC has got it right.

 

[Radon87000]

It worked out well for my iPad 2, 5s and iPhone 6. With tens of millions of Idevices there will always be some edge cases and some people whose perceptions are different than reality.

So we are imagining the slowdown.Got it
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In order to act on the notifications that you have when you Raise to wake, you need to have an Apple Watch to smart unlock. Otherwise, you have to use your fingerprint scanner as normal with the iPhone to act on the notifications (reply, etc.).

Raise to wake is still a nice feature on its own (as any Motorola fan can attest to, I'm sure), but to fully take advantage of the new feature, you need smart unlock.
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Yep. Apple rewards those who invest fully in their ecosystem. It's not difficult to understand where the arguments of feeling "locked down" comes from.

For some, it'll keep them in the Apple ecosystem. For others, it'll drive them away.

I see.Sounds like a great feature considering I own a AW myself.Too bad without raise to wake I have only half of the puzzle with me lol.Just gotta wait for the next gen

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

That would be cool...maybe that's coming. Or...maybe they thought it through and decided it could be a risk. Get mugged and your aw can now be used to enter the phone...idk.

No, I meant your iPhone unlocking your Macbook.

 

[Zaft]

I like the new lock screen, hopefully I can have weather on the main screen instead of swiping to the next page.

 

[tbayrgs]

After watching the demo on the main page, I have to say I'm a bit disappointed with Apple removing the widgets from the pull down panel. I use the Launcher widget all the time, most often to quickly navigate to 1Password from within another app but also to jump to a handful of other apps or to directly message/call most frequent contacts, to the Authy widget to quickly access the codes for 2-factor authentication, or quickly do a calculation on the PCalc widget. Now, I'll have to navigate back to the home screen, then swipe right to get to my widgets. This method also removes the link to return to the previous app in the top left corner.

Really hoping Apple decides to add them back to the pull down in a later beta version else one of my favorite aspects of using iOS is gone.

 

[Radon87000]

After watching the demo on the main page, I have to say I'm a bit disappointed with Apple removing the widgets from the pull down panel. I use the Launcher widget all the time, most often to quickly navigate to 1Password from within another app but also to jump to a handful of other apps or to directly message/call most frequent contacts, to the Authy widget to quickly access the codes for 2-factor authentication, or quickly do a calculation on the PCalc widget. Now, I'll have to navigate back to the home screen, then swipe right to get to my widgets. This method also removes the link to return to the previous app in the top left corner.

Really hoping Apple decides to add them back to the pull down in a later beta version else one of my favorite aspects of using iOS is gone.

Seems like a change just for the sake of change

 

[tbayrgs]

Seems like a change just for the sake of change

Yeah. Don't see why they can't continue to keep them in the pull down panel while adding them to the left of the first home screen and lock screen.

 

[gotluck]

Yeah. Don't see why they can't continue to keep them in the pull down panel while adding them to the left of the first home screen and lock screen.

Options are good!

 

[The Game 161]

After watching the demo on the main page, I have to say I'm a bit disappointed with Apple removing the widgets from the pull down panel. I use the Launcher widget all the time, most often to quickly navigate to 1Password from within another app but also to jump to a handful of other apps or to directly message/call most frequent contacts, to the Authy widget to quickly access the codes for 2-factor authentication, or quickly do a calculation on the PCalc widget. Now, I'll have to navigate back to the home screen, then swipe right to get to my widgets. This method also removes the link to return to the previous app in the top left corner.

Really hoping Apple decides to add them back to the pull down in a later beta version else one of my favorite aspects of using iOS is gone.

why couldn't you use launcher widget with the new lockscreen notification? it will be quicker and easier to use.

You are able to get to your widgets when you are on any page still doesn't need to be just in the lockscreen

surely going left is quicker and easier than pulling down?

 

[epicrayban]

Good marketing has done wonders for Apple. Good marketing is also doing wonders for Samsung now: http://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-marketing-success-698462/

And remember a recent study rates Samsung the most trusted brand amongst millennials.

None of this means Apple's in trouble or anything. Just an interesting shift.

 

[Radon87000]

Good marketing has done wonders for Apple. Good marketing is also doing wonders for Samsung now: http://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-marketing-success-698462/

And remember a recent study rates Samsung the most trusted brand amongst millennials.

The Note 5 beat iPhone in customer satisfaction rates.Samsung is just 1% away from matching Apple overall.Apple should take note of this.The competition isn't staying still while they rest on their laurels

 

[epicrayban]

After watching the demo on the main page, I have to say I'm a bit disappointed with Apple removing the widgets from the pull down panel. I use the Launcher widget all the time, most often to quickly navigate to 1Password from within another app but also to jump to a handful of other apps or to directly message/call most frequent contacts, to the Authy widget to quickly access the codes for 2-factor authentication, or quickly do a calculation on the PCalc widget. Now, I'll have to navigate back to the home screen, then swipe right to get to my widgets. This method also removes the link to return to the previous app in the top left corner.

Really hoping Apple decides to add them back to the pull down in a later beta version else one of my favorite aspects of using iOS is gone.

I felt the same way when Google removed widgets in the lock screen feature.

I suspect they'll add it back in the future given iOS 10.
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The Note 5 beat iPhone in customer satisfaction rates.Samsung is just 1% away from matching Apple overall.Apple should take note of this.The competition isn't staying still while they rest on their laurels

I don't know enough to gauge how close they are. I just know there's a shift. It's evident to me, but not to all. How big the shift is or how much it'll have affect on Apple? That is much harder to gauge. I think it behooves Apple to get more competitive. But I also know the branding is incredibly strong, and all of Apple's products tend to get better year after year, even if it's at a snail's pace.

So, we'll see. The point is, everyone at the table should be competitive.

 

[Zaft]

This is beta 1, it may be added back later.

 

[v0lume4]

And now that I noticed that the Siri API doesn't actually allow audio apps to use the API, the whole API could just as well not exist at all. I was hoping for a possibility to control music and podcasts in my car with the apps I actually use, but apparently that's too much to ask for.

I just discovered this a few minutes ago too Siri-ously, the reason I was excited for the Siri API was so that I could use it for Spotify. Apparently that's not gonna happen. I wanted to use Siri to search for things in the Google App. Apparently that's not going to happen, either.

 

[C DM]

After watching the demo on the main page, I have to say I'm a bit disappointed with Apple removing the widgets from the pull down panel. I use the Launcher widget all the time, most often to quickly navigate to 1Password from within another app but also to jump to a handful of other apps or to directly message/call most frequent contacts, to the Authy widget to quickly access the codes for 2-factor authentication, or quickly do a calculation on the PCalc widget. Now, I'll have to navigate back to the home screen, then swipe right to get to my widgets. This method also removes the link to return to the previous app in the top left corner.

Really hoping Apple decides to add them back to the pull down in a later beta version else one of my favorite aspects of using iOS is gone.

They are still there in Notification Center when you access it when you aren't on the home screen (locked or unlocked), like from within an app.

 

[MRU]

I just discovered this a few minutes ago too Siri-ously, the reason I was excited for the Siri API was so that I could use it for Spotify. Apparently that's not gonna happen. I wanted to use Siri to search for things in the Google App. Apparently that's not going to happen, either.

It's a beta. You will have to wait for the final version and for developers to release apps updated to support it.

That was never going to happen a day or two after wwdc.

 

[Radon87000]

I don't get why? Your iphone6 will work fantastically with iOS 10.

You won't be able to help yourself and you know it.

Again quoting this to show you proof.iOS 9 destroys iOS 10 in speed tests.Why am I not surprised.

 

[Roadstar]

It's a beta. You will have to wait for the final version and for developers to release apps updated to support it.

That was never going to happen a day or two after wwdc.

He wasn't expecting Spotify to support Siri right after WWDC. The issue is that unfortunately with the current information there won't be Siri API for Spotify as audio apps are not an approved category for Siri API: https://twitter.com/caseyliss/status/742473373746384896

This is a major bummer, as I was hoping for Siri support to Overcast (and Google Play Music) for the times I'm driving and need to change the track/episode.