Sorbet Leopard - Your Power Mac Unleashed

[Project Alice]

Hi, I used CCC Version 3.4.7 on Leopard to restore the DMG files successfully to a new partition. First, zip the Sorbet Leopard zipped file to get a 9GB DMG file, and then mount the DMG, then run CCC, for source , choose mounted Sorbet Leopard, for destination, choose the newly created partition, then execute the restore process, the whole process will take up to nearly 1 hour.

Just to make sure, you did check Erase destination prior to restore? With that setting it should work as intended.

I just did it again to a different disk and it worked. I have a drawer full of of drives and I need to do a better job at figuring out which ones are good and which ones aren't. Lol

Took 25min on CCC on Leopard. I'm going to be adding the aforementioned ADB kexts (thanks for the warning @Amethyst1 ) Then I can play around with this too.

Also, does anyone happen to know what the command to disable\enable shadows is? I searched it last night and couldn't find it. I'm not sure how much performance difference having them off makes but I don't care, it looks horrible with them disabled IMO lol.

 

[Hughmac]

I just did it again to a different disk and it worked. I have a drawer full of of drives and I need to do a better job at figuring out which ones are good and which ones aren't. Lol

Took 25min on CCC on Leopard. I'm going to be adding the aforementioned ADB kexts (thanks for the warning @Amethyst1 ) Then I can play around with this too.

Also, does anyone happen to know what the command to disable\enable shadows is? I searched it last night and couldn't find it. I'm not sure how much performance difference having them off makes but I don't care, it looks horrible with them disabled IMO lol.

Just remove the script from login items in System Preferences -> Accounts (Users and Groups)

Cheers

Hugh

 

[barracuda156]

LCS is liquid cooling system basically aio water cooler. Is there a supported 3 for ppc?

I apologize, I confused it with another app and other version. Ignore that comment.

 

[barracuda156]

A stopgap image is now in production to resolve the missing keyboard kext issue, among several other elements to enhance the user experience. Hopefully it should be out later today.

To those with ADB-based notebooks, please hold on just a little while longer. Thank you.

So it’s better not to install the current image and wait for the updated one?

 

[PowerfulEra]

A stopgap image is now in production to resolve the missing keyboard kext issue, among several other elements to enhance the user experience. Hopefully it should be out later today.

To those with ADB-based notebooks, please hold on just a little while longer. Thank you.

Damn already started using it as the main os. Would it be possible to create a updater alongside with the newer version?

 

[z970]

@barracuda156 That is correct. The new image is nearly finished already, so it should be out later this evening if all goes well.

@PowerfulEra I'm afraid not. This should be the last revision for the short-term though, until the fully rebuilt version is released (probably alongside the app store) at some point in the farther future.

 

[MacFoxG4]

Typing this from my 1.5ghz Sawtooth using the included LWK on Sorbet Leopard. It runs really well on here. No issues so far.

 

[s4mb4r4m4]

Sorbet Leopard will support GeForce FX 5200 / Radeon 9200 graphics cards and lower upon release.

You're a star!

Will grab that revised image as soon as it's out and give it a go in the 12"!

 

[z970]

Sorbet Leopard v2 has been released! Alongside it comes a revised version of the original Full Changelog to better represent this version.

Some of the changes include:

o Full ADB-based notebook compatibility

o Machine-tailored network settings

o Display-tailored window sizing and placement settings

o A more comprehensive system tune up script

o The bundled Welcome document has been revised to convey information in a more cohesive manner

o Bundled documents are now located on the Desktop front and center

o Window shadows are now on by default

o The built-in WebKit and Terminal optimizations now apply system-wide

o The file system is now 2 GB smaller (Disk Utility cannot shrink partitions below 8 GB)

o Other minor changes and adjustments to enhance the overall user experience

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Just make sure to manually set a hostname in System Preferences > Sharing > Computer Name, as that no longer comes built-in.

Otherwise, please continue to enjoy Sorbet Leopard!

 

[s4mb4r4m4]

Has the Mediafire link been updated on MacintoshGarden?

PS Thank you!

 

[z970]

@s4mb4r4m4 Yes! The uploaded file has been denoted 'Sorbet Leopard v2'!

 

[s4mb4r4m4]

@s4mb4r4m4 Yes! The uploaded file has been denoted 'Sorbet Leopard v2'!

Let the downloading begin!

I read another post earlier that if I wanted to move from my existing Leopard to Sorbet, it's not as easy as wiping the older partition and expanding the 20GB Sorbet disk, as that can cause problems? Is there an official way to do a full disk install?

 

[z970]

@s4mb4r4m4 User accounts from an original Leopard installation cannot be migrated over, unfortunately. And in my experience, as long as the 7 GB file system has at least 20 GB to breathe for caching, local storage, and swap operations, no problems are likely to arise.

Again, an official installation guide is coming soon. Although the best route I can offer you now is to prepare an Apple Partition Format partition 20 GB in size or larger using Disk Utility, select the 'Restore' tab while focused in that partition, and set the 'Source' box to the Sorbet Leopard DMG, then set the 'Destination' box to the newly-created partition it is to be restored to.

Depending on the OS and version of Disk Utility, any combination of having 'Erase destination' and 'Skip checksum' selected or deselected may be used in order to get Disk Utility to restore the image, as it will not in some configurations, as per my experiences.

At this time, I cannot offer any guidance on the alternative usage of Carbon Copy Cloner or other disk management tools due to a lack of data.

 

[s4mb4r4m4]

Oh no, of course not. Sorry, I may have worded my question poorly. I have a partition waiting and ready to go once this download completes. But, if everything goes well and Sorbet kicks the ass it sounds like it does, and I want to blow away my old Leopard that's got 100gb of the 120gb disk, I'd love to just boot into Sorbet, delete the old Leopard partition and then drag the slider up, but someone mentioned in an earlier post that the "sliding up" can cause problems in APM.

Perhaps cloning the 20GB partition at the end, to a 20gb partition at the start, booting into that, and then deleting the partition at the end and sliding down to expand from the start of the drive is a better plan.

 

[Tratkazir_the_1st]

prepare an Apple Partition Format partition

Hmmm... You're pushing me towards some experiments .

 

[z970]

@s4mb4r4m4 Pardon me if I'm incorrect, but I don't believe it's even possible to 'slide up' in DU. The partitioning tool allows you to make downward subsets of each main partition, and 'sliding up' a partition subset would effectively just shrink the size further until you hit the very beginning of that partition. Sliding down in contrast expands the space to either the end of the disk, or the beginning of the next partition.

In which case, I have not heard of, nor experienced any problems that APM might have with the process of deleting a subset partition, expanding the upper partition into the now empty space, and then using that for the OS. However, I am also not claiming to know every square inch of APM's inner workings, so he might have a point yet.

In either case, your proposal sounds like a relatively safe route as far as I'm concerned.

 

[MacFoxG4]

Just downloaded the new version. I should be able to get around to installing it sometime tomorrow. Thanks for your hard work and for keeping us in the loop.

 

[Tratkazir_the_1st]

Can somebody pls make some sticky links to downloads on first page (or any other)?

 

[s4mb4r4m4]

Can somebody pls make some sticky links to downloads on first page (or any other)?

https://macintoshgarden.org/apps/sorbet-leopard

The "Purchase" link is to the current Mediafire download.

 

[Tratkazir_the_1st]

@s4mb4r4m4
THX
BTW, MD5 is not safe for some years.

 

[z970]

The official Installation Guide has been created, and is viewable within the Sorbet Leopard app showcase page @ Macintosh Garden.

Hopefully now there will be less confusion.

 

[mortlocli]

erm...forgive me if Im asking the obvious..but Im about three quarters thru a restore on an iBook, the 'Apple Partition Format' recommended - is that APFS?
Ive just realised Id selected 'Mac OS Extended (Journaled)'.

 

[mortlocli]

https://macintoshgarden.org/apps/sorbet-leopard

The "Purchase" link is to the current Mediafire download.

I did that but just noticed its been updated so the download is now listed.

 

[z970]

@mortlocli Apple Partition Map is the partitioning scheme that all Mac hardware used (regardless of the OS) from 10.0 until 10.6. Mac OS Extended (Journaled), or HFS+, is the file system (which would sit on top of the APM partitioning scheme) that Mac OS X used from (I believe) 10.2 until about 10.13.

APFS, otherwise known as Apple File System, is the flash-optimized file system which Apple recently developed to replace HFS+, first becoming macOS' default file system in 10.13.

In any case, the partition type does not matter as the disk image will map its own file system onto the partition independent of the preexisting file system that said partition was formatted with.

 

[mortlocli]

@mortlocli I wouldn't be so sure of that. When I first joined this forum, I proclaimed in my very first post that I would never be able to do something, because it seemed so impossibly complex at the time.

Fast forward to a short four years later however, and ... well, you know.

Never underestimate your ability to learn, and do great things as a result.

Ha...not wanting to rain on your parade, Z..but Ive been fooling around with Linux for longer than that...and it still does my head in. Ive always been impressed with a light weight distribution named Slitaz. Always wondered how it would go on a PPC. Its real basic as far as bells and whistles go.