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rdcoulthard

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Dec 5, 2021
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Macintosh Garden has been inaccessible to me for weeks now. I found sorbet-leopard on Macintosh Repository, but that requires a donation to download files larger than 1gb, such as this. Any advice? or is there another link somewhere?
 

ww2_1943

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Nov 25, 2021
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Macintosh Garden has been inaccessible to me for weeks now. I found sorbet-leopard on Macintosh Repository, but that requires a donation to download files larger than 1gb, such as this. Any advice? or is there another link somewhere?

I could be wrong, but I think you just have to make a free account on Mac Repository
 

HAL2010

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Nov 3, 2014
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Which won't help unless he gets the login information from the website he can't access :p
My posts will unfortunately get locked for moderation if I paste links.
Just Google it. In fact: this is how I got Sorbet Leopard.
I could be wrong, but I think you just have to make a free account on Mac Repository
Please don’t endorse the repo$itory. Most of their software is ripped from The Macintosh Garden.
 
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z970

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Due to running the risk of downloading potentially tampered or outdated images, I strongly advise against acquiring any builds of Sorbet Leopard from any sources other than either Macintosh Garden or the MediaFire backup mirror (available here), which are the only locations at present where all hosted builds are officially maintained and updated.

Thank you (again).
 
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lepidotós

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Aug 29, 2021
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Well, I've done it. Sorbet Leopard on (nearly) the absolute minimum requirements. Firmware ended up being my issue after all, and now I'm up to 4.2.8. It's worse than Tiger on the bare minimum and is essentially a slideshow, but it's also amazing to see something like the front page of YouTube on this computer from April 2000. I have a dual 450 Gigabit Ethernet, 2GB RAM, and a Radeon 9800 Pro coming in the mail, so that will be my actual Sorbet tower; this is just to mess around.
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I winced all the way through those two videos:

1st video - "Youtube is slow because I'm on wifi...."

2nd video - "Youtube is slow because I'm on ethernet.."

No context or explanation to the concept of Sorbet at all (apart from erroneous ones) or the real benefits of using an all-in-one, ready to roll disk image.
YouTube is slow for me too, but I think that has to do for me with the combo of a single 450 and a 72KB/s connection.
 
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lepidotós

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Benched both Tiger and SL, didn't think to do it at 512 but nevertheless...
Granted, this is more OS 8.6 hardware than Leopard hardware, so it's not like this is hard-hitting knowledge. I'll re-run when I get the GigE fully set up with the 9800 and the max RAM for a slightly more sane test.
 

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aurora72

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Jun 7, 2010
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Türkiye
Today evening I wanted to compile the latest version of NcFTP Client on 10.5.9 and I've stumbled upon a problem which I think is related to 10.5.9

NcFTP-3.2.6 was configured fine but during the compilation it stopped with this error:

Compiling io_sendfile.c: [ERROR] /usr/bin/gcc-4.0 -isysroot /Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.4u.sdk -mmacosx-version-m in=10.4 -arch i386 -arch ppc -D_REENTRANT -O2 -W -Wall -Wno-format-y2k -stati c-libgcc -DMACOSX=10508 -DO_S="macosx10.5.8" -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DMACOSX=10508 - I/Users/Mac/Downloads/ncftp-3.2.6 -I/Users/Mac/Downloads/ncftp-3.2.6/libncftp -I/Users/Mac/Downloads/ncftp-3.2.6/sio -I/Users/Mac/Downloads/ncftp-3.2.6/St rn -I/usr/local/gmp-6.0.0/include -I/usr/local/mpfr-3.1.2/include -I/usr/loca l/mpc-1.0.2/include io_sendfile.c -c io_sendfile.c: In function ‘DoSendfile’: io_sendfile.c:263: error: storage size of ‘sf’ isn’t known io_sendfile.c:522: warning: implicit declaration of function ‘sendfile’ io_sendfile.c:263: warning: unused variable ‘sf’ io_sendfile.c: In function ‘DoSendfile’: io_sendfile.c:263: error: storage size of ‘sf’ isn’t known io_sendfile.c:522: warning: implicit declaration of function ‘sendfile’ io_sendfile.c:263: warning: unused variable ‘sf’ lipo: can't figure out the architecture type of: /tmp/cchEDKcM.out

The same package (NcFTP-3.2.6) is configured and compiled fine on 10.5.8

Here is a screenshot where it specifies the SDK version on 10.5.9
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The section where it checks the SDK as /Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.4u.sdk looks wrong. I guess it must have been checked as MacOSX10.5.sdk (not being totally sure)

For comparison, here is how the 10.5.8 checks the SDK:

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z970

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@aurora72 Odd ... the 10.5.9 data is showing the GCC version as 4.0.1, while 10.5.8 displays 4.6.0. I don't believe any Sorbet-specific changes should have caused that - maybe it is cache-related?

You seem to have specified to build for i386 in addition to ppc; perhaps the compiler is failing because all Intel libraries and frameworks have been removed, therefore it presently lacks the tools to do the outlined job? What happens if you try to build for ppc only?
 
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aurora72

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Jun 7, 2010
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@z970 You're correct about the GCC version but I don't think the error is related to it. I've deleted the build folder and reconfigured & remade it all over (GCC-4.6.0 came up) and the same error. You're correct about the "-arch i386" too ( haven't even noticed that) I've edited the Makefile by deleting the "-arch i386" and the same error again.

But...

Once I've started to edit the Makefile, I've thought : Why not edit the section
"-isysroot /Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.4u.sdk"
to make it
"-isysroot /Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.5.sdk" ? So I went ahead and did it and it got compiled without any error. I've installed it and tried the binary and it worked! So now we know more or less, the root of the problem: Sorbet Leopard picking up the wrong version of SDK.
 

ww2_1943

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Nov 25, 2021
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I am having DVD playback issues with Sorbet on my Pismo. I can play DVDs on 9.2 and 10.4. Whenever I try to use the DVD player I get an error message that says “There was an initialization error.”

The drive is reading files on CDs and DVDs just fine in Sorbet.

Is there a setting I should charge or should I try and reinstall the DVD player?

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z970

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@ww2_1943 That may indeed be the case here. Either way, I would verify its behavior first with 10.5.8 before relegating it as a potential issue with Sorbet. In my experience, earlier G3s always did have touchy DVD support within any version of OS X.
 
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