Star Trek: Alpha to Delta Quadrants & Everything In Between

[BigMcGuire]

The Prophets/Wormhole Aliens prevented Dominion troops from transversing the wormhole. DS9: Sacrifices of Angels. The Dominions had only the forces they could muster from the Alpha Quadrant in their fight against the Federation/Klingon/Romulan alliance. Dukat believed the 2400 ships sent from the Gamma Quadrant would have been enough to defeat the Alpha/Beta Quandrant alliance.

Whether they were fighting the Borg or not isn't the reason they didn't send reinforcements from the Gamma Quadrant.

Yeah I actually found the reference - it was a Star Trek book I read when I was a kid (not canon and not sure which one) that referenced the fact that the Borg and the Dominion were fighting each other - and the Dominion was winning the war with the Borg until they lost those ships in the wormhole - then things started turning south for them.

That said, had the Romulans not turned, the Alpha Quadrant probably would have been lost anyway, at least that's the story DS9 paints. Seems like a small # of ships tho, to take on the entire quadrant, lol.

 

[ThunderSkunk]

Okay.. finally finished the entire Picard series. Wow.

Ok I'm coming in at the end of this thread working backward, & skimmed a few of your posts with a side-eye to dodge spoilers. Because after they thought it'd be fun to bring back data just to kill him again for kicks, I quit Picard entirely disgusted with the trend where writers need to revisit and wreck up everything that made favorite classic sci-fi favorite to begin with, and turn them into dark dystopian overwrought sludge. Wow what a new idea. Starwarses, Back to the Futures, Stargates, Star Treks, over and over.

But from what my peripheral vision has picked up from a few of your posts, Picard might be worth revisiting & sticking it out to the end. You've convinced me, I'll give it a try.

 

[BigMcGuire]

Ok I'm coming in at the end of this thread working backward, & skimmed a few of your posts with a side-eye to dodge spoilers. Because after they thought it'd be fun to bring back data just to kill him again for kicks, I quit Picard entirely disgusted with the trend where writers need to revisit and wreck up everything that made favorite classic sci-fi favorite to begin with, and turn them into dark dystopian overwrought sludge. Wow what a new idea. Starwarses, Back to the Futures, Stargates, Star Treks, over and over.

But from what my peripheral vision has picked up from a few of your posts, Picard might be worth revisiting & sticking it out to the end. You've convinced me, I'll give it a try.

As a TNG Trekkie, Season 1 and 2 of Picard were offensive and very painful to get through. Season 3 was, after Season 1 and 2, very enjoyable. Not perfect but much much better. lol.

 

[bradl]

Ok I'm coming in at the end of this thread working backward, & skimmed a few of your posts with a side-eye to dodge spoilers. Because after they thought it'd be fun to bring back data just to kill him again for kicks, I quit Picard entirely disgusted with the trend where writers need to revisit and wreck up everything that made favorite classic sci-fi favorite to begin with, and turn them into dark dystopian overwrought sludge. Wow what a new idea. Starwarses, Back to the Futures, Stargates, Star Treks, over and over.

But from what my peripheral vision has picked up from a few of your posts, Picard might be worth revisiting & sticking it out to the end. You've convinced me, I'll give it a try.

As a TNG Trekkie, Season 1 and 2 of Picard were offensive and very painful to get through. Season 3 was, after Season 1 and 2, very enjoyable. Not perfect but much much better. lol.

Like I said, on its own as a short standalone series, Season 2 of Picard was not bad. Everyone has to keep in mind that like Encounter at Farpoint and All Good Things, that entire season is influenced by Q (actually, made up by Q), so it doesn't really have any impact on what is going on in the entire series, or the timeline of events inside the entire ST Universe. It does suggest a fair amount of things that could have happened (read: Khan), but since it was a fabricated sequence of events, none of it has any bearing on Season 3. In fact, all of Season 1 and the last episode of Season 2 are important to the actual timeline because of what happens at the end of episode 1 of Season 2 and the end of the final episode of Season 2, similar to how those shifting timelines didn't have much of an impact on how All Good Things ended.

I will spoil this only one thing: redemption for Deanna. The directors in the behind the scenes footage of ST: Generations thought of the rather chauvinistic joke that they would blame the destruction of the Enterprise-D on the proverbial "woman driving the car", which is why Deanna was at the conn during the crash scene. Seeing what she did at the conn at the end of Picard shut that coffin on that backwards way of thinking. That and Crusher at tactical.

BL.

 

[cwerdna]

I will spoil this only one thing: redemption for Deanna. The directors in the behind the scenes footage of ST: Generations thought of the rather chauvinistic joke that they would blame the destruction of the Enterprise-D on the proverbial "woman driving the car", which is why Deanna was at the conn during the crash scene. Seeing what she did at the conn at the end of Picard shut that coffin on that backwards way of thinking.

FWIW, I've heard Marina herself joking about that. She's even joked "the planet came out of nowhere".

 

[audiokid]

First season of Star Trek's Strange New Worlds free on YouTube.

 

[BigMcGuire]

Just started making my way through Lower Decks. I've never watched Rick and Morty but I'm a huge Family Guy / American Dad fan - but this is pretty whacky. At least it has a feel of trek to it, lol. I noticed that there are some old Trek actors doing some of the voice overs so that ups the cool factor for me too.

 

[bradl]

Just started making my way through Lower Decks. I've never watched Rick and Morty but I'm a huge Family Guy / American Dad fan - but this is pretty whacky. At least it has a feel of trek to it, lol. I noticed that there are some old Trek actors doing some of the voice overs so that ups the cool factor for me too.

Out of all of the newer series (save Picard), this is the only series that resonates with me. I don't know if it is because of the humor or just the fact that they use the TNG font for the series, but it's really good.

That said, I still haven't checked out ST: Prodigy, but seeing that they brought Mulgrew back for that, it may be worth a watch or two, despite it being on Nickelodeon. I really enjoyed the voice actor work she did on Stretch Armstrong and the Flex Fighters.

BL.

 

[Rafterman]

I love Mariner (And Tawney Newsome). She's a screw-up, but she's also really good at her job, when she's not busy tweaking her superiors. Actually, the whole cast is great.

 

[obeygiant]

All the Star Trek tropes are present

 

[ucfgrad93]

Amazon Prime has the first season of Strange New Worlds until June 30th. Trying to watch all of it before it goes away.

 

[cwerdna]

For those in the US, Paramount+ often has codes for a free month. I'd gotten FB ads about the code WARP that https://www.doctorofcredit.com/free...giving-works-for-new-existing-previous-users/ mentions. I don't know their details and whether they'll work for previous subscribers or for new ones only.

 

[Rafterman]

If you're a Star Trek fan, $10 seems trivial for what is essentially year round new episodes. Plus, there is other content. I, for one, like the Beavis and Butt-Head revival.

 

[maflynn]

If you're a Star Trek fan, $10 seems trivial for what is essentially year round new episodes.

My issue is, that its not 10 dollars a month, because Paramount doesn't operate in a vacuum. I need to pay for Youtube TV, Netflix, Disney+, Discovery+ Max, etc etx. Each one isn't terribly expensive (well YTTV is pricey), but its death by a thousand cuts.

I love star trek and star wars, but I'm seriously questioning whether disney+ is worth it - especially given the eggs that disney has laid with respect to their new content. I'm paying for something that is mostly crap.

With that said, I'm not sure I'm willing to take the plunge for Paramount+. Brave New Worlds is the only series that interests me, its the closest to the TOS at least in spirit. Most of the rest of the star trek series are continuity breaking, and re-imagining the star trek universe that is very different to what Gene Roddenberry envisioned and what we saw in TOS and TNG

 

[velocityg4]

My issue is, that its not 10 dollars a month, because Paramount doesn't operate in a vacuum. I need to pay for Youtube TV, Netflix, Disney+, Discovery+ Max, etc etx. Each one isn't terribly expensive (well YTTV is pricey), but its death by a thousand cuts.

I love star trek and star wars, but I'm seriously questioning whether disney+ is worth it - especially given the eggs that disney has laid with respect to their new content. I'm paying for something that is mostly crap.

With that said, I'm not sure I'm willing to take the plunge for Paramount+. Brave New Worlds is the only series that interests me, its the closest to the TOS at least in spirit. Most of the rest of the star trek series are continuity breaking, and re-imagining the star trek universe that is very different to what Gene Roddenberry envisioned and what we saw in TOS and TNG

Do you need all of them every single month? I know I run through the good content on a service pretty in a couple months. Once I realize I haven't used it for a month or two. I cut the service and watch fresh content on something else. It's not like you can't reactivate it after burning through Paramount+.

By the way, besides Star Trek, it has 1883. Which is an excellent mini series based on a wagon train.

 

[Rafterman]

My issue is, that its not 10 dollars a month, because Paramount doesn't operate in a vacuum. I need to pay for Youtube TV, Netflix, Disney+, Discovery+ Max, etc etx. Each one isn't terribly expensive (well YTTV is pricey), but its death by a thousand cuts.

I love star trek and star wars, but I'm seriously questioning whether disney+ is worth it - especially given the eggs that disney has laid with respect to their new content. I'm paying for something that is mostly crap.

With that said, I'm not sure I'm willing to take the plunge for Paramount+. Brave New Worlds is the only series that interests me, its the closest to the TOS at least in spirit. Most of the rest of the star trek series are continuity breaking, and re-imagining the star trek universe that is very different to what Gene Roddenberry envisioned and what we saw in TOS and TNG

I'm looking forward to Secret War on Disney/MCU.

I'm also partial to Lower Decks. Like Strange New Worlds, it's episodic, not serialized, and while their crew does most things azzzzz-backwards, they are still honorable Starfleet officers who do the right thing. To me, it's as "Roddenberry" as TOS.

 

[ucfgrad93]

My issue is, that its not 10 dollars a month, because Paramount doesn't operate in a vacuum. I need to pay for Youtube TV, Netflix, Disney+, Discovery+ Max, etc etx. Each one isn't terribly expensive (well YTTV is pricey), but its death by a thousand cuts.

Exactly. I'm not going to subscribe to a dozen different services, or some for a few months and then have to remember to cancel the subscription.

 

[Rafterman]

Exactly. I'm not going to subscribe to a dozen different services, or some for a few months and then have to remember to cancel the subscription.

It just matters how much you value Paramount content, in this case, Star Trek. To me, adding P+ to the pile is worth it.

 

[Mainsail]

SNW S2 E2: Absolutely fantastic!!!

 

[Rafterman]

SNW S2 E2: Absolutely fantastic!!!

I'm normally not a fan of courtroom dramas, but that was an amazing episode.

 

[sjsharksfan12]

Paramount+ Cancels 4 Series, Including Grease, The Game and Star Trek: Prodigy

Paramount+ is not moving forward with these four series, TVLine has confirmed.

tvline.com

Prodigy has been cancelled and they want to shop season 2 around. I'm disappointed and a little angry about this. I liked Prodigy and was looking forward to seeing more.

 

[jdoll021]

With that said, I'm not sure I'm willing to take the plunge for Paramount+. Brave New Worlds is the only series that interests me…

Sounds like a season pass would work best for you. I wanted to watch the new Animaniacs but I wasn’t about to pay Hulu a subscription fee for one show, so I bought a season pass.

 

[jdoll021]

I'm normally not a fan of courtroom dramas, but that was an amazing episode.

Same. Star Trek seems to be the only franchise that gets courtroom dramas right. Even true of strictly courtroom drama shows *cough* Law & Order *cough cough*

Pretty impressive for a show where courtroom drama isn’t your main thing.

 

[jdoll021]

Paramount+ Cancels 4 Series, Including Grease, The Game and Star Trek: Prodigy

Paramount+ is not moving forward with these four series, TVLine has confirmed.

tvline.com

Prodigy has been cancelled and they want to shop season 2 around. I'm disappointed and a little angry about this. I liked Prodigy and was looking forward to seeing more.

That sucks. My son is a lost cause but I was hoping to use Prodigy to at least get my daughter hooked. Plus, now we’re left hanging with what happened to Chakotey.

 

[Rafterman]

Paramount+ Cancels 4 Series, Including Grease, The Game and Star Trek: Prodigy

Paramount+ is not moving forward with these four series, TVLine has confirmed.

tvline.com

Prodigy has been cancelled and they want to shop season 2 around. I'm disappointed and a little angry about this. I liked Prodigy and was looking forward to seeing more.

I'd be surprised if they shop it around. ST is a valuable property for Paramount. Not sure they would let someone else do it.