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Hey Apple, how about promoting smaller artists who need the exposure and have a bit more substance. I guess Apple is desperate for more swifty $$$
 
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Hey Apple, how about promoting smaller artists who need the exposure and have a bit more substance. I guess Apple is desperate for more swifty $$$
Maybe Apple and Spotify should dole out awards for "smaller" artists? It's just about impossible to ignore Swift in 2023 because huge success of the Eras Tour and all those re-recordings has made the nickname for her, The Music Industry, not so far-fetched.
 
Because there are hundreds if not thousands of children with several times the amount talent someone like swift had whose families don’t have the means to up and move to another city just to support their child’s music career. It’s a lot easier to take risks, to be ambitious, and to succeed early, when your parents’ pockets are so deep that one can safely take leaps with the knowledge a net will always appear below them. And this is to say nothing of the educational opportunities afforded to people of her economic class.

Swift is not the hardest worker, but her PR team certainly does seem to be putting in overtime — some of them appear to be doing pro bono work in this very thread

And that's Taylor Swift's fault, so you trash her? Who she was born to? And what about after she "made it?" Do you think she became a billionaire right out of the gate? No, she climbed her way to that status as one of the biggest stars in the world, on her own merit. People can get a hand out of the door, but it's what they do with that chance that matters most.

And yes, she is known by everyone who knows her as a VERY hard worker. Like re-recording every album so she can own the rights.

But it's the usual thing - women aren't allowed to do it on their own, they must have had someone help them. Her rich family, her PR team...not her of course.

I'm here because I dislike people being unfair I am having similar arguments over The Marvels movie. Whenever a woman succeeds or is focused on, people get nasty.
 
Hey Apple, how about promoting smaller artists who need the exposure and have a bit more substance. I guess Apple is desperate for more swifty $$$

They promote new artists all the time on their music store front. This reward is for Artist of the Year.
 
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Also not a big fan of most of her music, but I am completely and favorably blown away by her dominance this year through her tour, movie, earnings, and continuing high levels of record sales. Perfectly appropriate choice for this award, and maybe for new title: Queen of the World.
 
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And if jealousy were money, you'd be the richest person in the world. She has tremendous talent. You don't have to like her music, but to deny she is talented is just petty.

I'm not a huge fan of a lot of acts, but I still recognize their talent and don't disrespect them.
Fair point. I've always wanted to be a billionaire corporate music shill. But to call Taylor Swift's output "music" is like calling Velveeta "Cheese." Some people actually prefer them to the real thing. I even get Velveeta when I order a Philly Cheesesteak! Ordering cheddar or swiss would be like listening to Ella Fitzgerald sing "Dear John." Inappropriate!

Of course, I've never been able to make it through an entire Swift music product, so I'm sure your opinion of her talent is more valid than mine, being a "Swiftie" and all…
 
I remember when she just had goofy country songs. Now she’s a household name billionaire pop star.
 
Who did something more interesting than having the biggest tour of all time?
Exactly. I don't know that I am a "Swiftie" but I got tickets to one of her shows in LA for face value so I went. It was one of the best, if not the best, concert experiences I've ever had.

Love her, hate her, or somewhere in the middle, there is no denying that Swift was the biggest musical artist of 2023. Sounds like someone that is deserving of an "Artist of the Year" award to me.
 
And that's Taylor Swift's fault, so you trash her? Who she was born to? And what about after she "made it?" Do you think she became a billionaire right out of the gate? No, she climbed her way to that status as one of the biggest stars in the world, on her own merit. People can get a hand out of the door, but it's what they do with that chance that matters most.

And yes, she is known by everyone who knows her as a VERY hard worker. Like re-recording every album so she can own the rights.

But it's the usual thing - women aren't allowed to do it on their own, they must have had someone help them. Her rich family, her PR team...not her of course.

I'm here because I dislike people being unfair I am having similar arguments over The Marvels movie. Whenever a woman succeeds or is focused on, people get nasty.
Where did I say that’s her fault? Again with the strawmen.

Not everything is misogyny. Maybe people think she’s just untalented.
 
Fair point. I've always wanted to be a billionaire corporate music shill. But to call Taylor Swift's output "music" is like calling Velveeta "Cheese." Some people actually prefer them to the real thing. I even get Velveeta when I order a Philly Cheesesteak! Ordering cheddar or swiss would be like listening to Ella Fitzgerald sing "Dear John." Inappropriate!

Of course, I've never been able to make it through an entire Swift music product, so I'm sure your opinion of her talent is more valid than mine, being a "Swiftie" and all…

Real thing? And what is "the real thing?" Only things you like? Who are you to judge that? Personal opinion, fine. But why the insults towards her?
 
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Real thing? And what is "the real thing?" Only things you like? Who are you to judge that? Personal opinion, fine. But why the insults towards her?
Because what she makes is "music product." Like "cheese food." It's written for the sole purpose of making money.
 
Because there are hundreds if not thousands of children with several times the amount talent someone like swift had whose families don’t have the means to up and move to another city just to support their child’s music career. It’s a lot easier to take risks, to be ambitious, and to succeed early, when your parents’ pockets are so deep that one can safely take leaps with the knowledge a net will always appear below them. And this is to say nothing of the educational opportunities afforded to people of her economic class.

Swift is not the hardest worker, but her PR team certainly does seem to be putting in overtime — some of them appear to be doing pro bono work in this very thread
Well, if the "hundreds if not thousands" of musical talents that appear on those Voice-Idol-Talent shows my SO watches are any indication, you're wrong to a great degree. Nobody asked Clarkson, Lambert, Hudson, Underwood or Sparks how much their parents were worth.

If her parents got her foot in the door, that means almost nothing for success. Talent rises, it's a brutal business, but you either have it or you don't. Most don't. She obviously does.
 
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