That article mentioned a 16 GB version with a micro sd. I guess they are not doing the standard minimum 32 gb anymore.
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The All New HTC One (M8)
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The new programs offered over the past year at major US carriers (AT&T's Next, Verizon's Edge, all of T Mobile's plans) no longer rely on subsidized devices or multi-year contracts. Consumers pay lower monthly rates and are not bound by a 2 yr contract but in return now pay full retail price for devices, though usually via monthly installments. I'm not familiar with all of the plan specifics but believe all offer the ability to trade in your existing device to upgrade as often as annually. Consequently, I think you'll see a greater number of consumers switching devices more often than in the past. My point was only that I think it's foolish of any company to ignore this dynamic, especially a company with very little margin for error.
Regardless of all of that, it's just my opinion that this years flagship offerings, including the new One, are more lackluster than past years. HTC is in desperate need of a home run and I don't think they've got it with the new One. Just my $0.02 and by no means any proclamation but based on a great number of comments in this thread, I don't think I'm the only one.
But again, I don't think an OEM is focused on how carriers are now selling their phones. Their main focus is on the product itself. How consumers choose to purchase said phones is another matter entirely and plays no part in how an OEM creates their flagship. I also think most Americans will not opt for these new upgrade plans. It increases your monthly bill and the changes found between flagships year by year aren't very drastic to warrant an upgrade for most of us.
Not sure why you brought up HTC's future in the first place. Found it a random street to venture down. I agree that if the One didn't sell well for HTC I don't see many reasons why the new One will. Perhaps being available on Verizon from day one will help. Or a proper marketing campaign. These are big questions for now. Personally I think the changes to the new One are very drastic and enough to make me want to purchase, but I can't say that my personal feelings regarding this is a reflection of how a worldwide market will react. And of course going bigger and heavier the next year with your device will be frowned upon by most consumers.
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There was a recent short video on YouTube where the user had a T-Mobile M8 and he showed it offered 32 GB of internal storage.
New pictures on the M8...nice looking phone!
Here are pictures of the "dummy" phone models used in stores for display purposes. This going to be one very nice looking phone!
http://bgr.com/2014/03/12/all-new-htc-one-photos-leak-dummy/
Here are pictures of the "dummy" phone models used in stores for display purposes. This going to be one very nice looking phone!
http://bgr.com/2014/03/12/all-new-htc-one-photos-leak-dummy/
Well then we'll just have to agree to disagree here. How exactly then do you think these devices are being placed in customer's hands? Carriers are absolutely the primary delivery channel (except maybe for Apple) and if a carrier's pricing/plans encourage customers to upgrade more frequently, OEMs better account for this or risk losing out to the competition. Ignoring these customers and you're ignoring and entire segment of potential buyers, one that will likely be growing as carriers have show they are determined to move forward away from subsidies, at least to some extent. If I want to upgrade after a year and my current device manufacturer's new release is barely incremental over last year, i'm likely going to head down the row of devices to find something else.
Regardless, I've taking this thread off on a tangent it doesn't need so I'll wrap it up with my hope that the new One turns out to be a big success as I generally like HTC's design style more than most and would hate to see them ultimately fail as a mobile device manufacturer. As you stated, competition is a good thing.
Well I really hope this stuff about 32GB is true. Even with a microSD slot, I'd hate to have 16GB on the main storage. 32 should be the standard these days. If I have to pay extra for it, that's OK. But HTC definitely needs to offer a 32GB option.
How exactly is an OEM going to 'account for this'? What will an OEM do differently knowing that some consumers have more initiative to upgrade early? Do you really expect a redesigned phone every year now? The S-line is essentially a spec upgrade every year. The iPhone is redesigned every 2 years and I doubt that is changing in the future because of how American carriers sell phones now. HTC I'm guessing didn't make drastic changes to the One this year because like Apple they are going to go with a 2 year model for major redesigns of their flagship. Let's also take a step back and realize we are talking about one market here. Just because more American carriers are offering early upgrades via financing plans doesn't mean the rest of the world is following their model.
If you want to upgrade after a year there is a good chance the new model offered by your current phone's OEM isn't much more than a spec update with a few design tweaks.
So if that turns out to be true even the RAM is not LPDDR3?
I'm so disappointed with the size of this phone! As tall as the Z2! I mean, c'mon! Why are these phones getting bigger and bigger every year?
And with the aluminum and curves at the back of the phone I feel like it's gonna be super slippery!!
Completely agree!!
I've been looking for months for a new phone to upgrade from my SGS3, but I'm not that impressed by this new generation either.
I see many flaws: being too big (Z2 and One 2), being still cheap plastic (S5. You should see how my S3 looks now z after a year and a half... And I take super care of my phones), no 3000 battery minimum (One and S5), no on screen buttons (S5), etc.
I just don't see any great option to change to from my S3. I like the camera of the S5, the design of the One and the specs of the Z2...
On Monday I went to check some new devices and I was impressed that the G2 was almost the same size as my S3! With a bigger display and all. So I may wait for the G3.
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Yeah very shady but could simply be yet another marketing plant/stunt from HTC as this has made all the tech news blogs already so I wouldn't be surprised if its real and the buyer is actually just someone at HTC too....
Man I wouldn't know what current gen phone to buy. Gs5ge that I wish was smaller or hopefully a non disappointing moto x 2 whenever that arrives.
G2 is probably best of the bunch currently out IMO but I can't handle lgs software
Very interested in z1 compact if it ever makes it to the US, but would only likely buy gpe because I'm afraid of Sonys update schedule
G2 is probably best of the bunch currently out IMO but I can't handle lgs software
Very interested in z1 compact if it ever makes it to the US, but would only likely buy gpe because I'm afraid of Sonys update schedule
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Yeah, if I was forced to choose right now, I'd most likely go for the Sony Z1 Compact. It has a display similar to the Z2 that corrected the huge flaws in previous Sony models, a terrific camera, fully waterproof (vs. water resistant) with a charging option that doesn't require constant opening/closing of the flap over the microUSB port, great size with on-screen buttons, expandable memory and reports show it achieving terrific battery life. Two biggest cons I see are that it was released only on Android 4.3 (though announced to receive KK, just no date) and no announcement of US release (and fully compatible LTE bands).
It's all a moot point for me as I'm sticking with iOS for the immediate future. Not envious of anyone that needs to sort through all these options presently.
I was really starting to warm up to this M8 after reading about the expandable memory slot up to 128 GB and hopefully improved camera sensor. And I do like the design enough esp the rear and more rounded edges.
But the rumored 146 mm in height, 70 mm in width, and weighing 160 grams? With a 2600 mAH battery capacity no bigger than the smaller Butterfly S' 3200 mAH battery from last year? Seriously, HTC? And a heavier metal phone to boot which generates even more heat. HTC phones have always had a reputation for generally poor battery life and it doesnt look they will change that rep anytime soon.
Looks like the best smartphone of 2014 will come from either Apple, Samsung, or LG this year.
iPhone 6
Galaxy Note 4 / or Galaxy F?
G3
Wait for the Butterfly S2 if you want a bigger battery in hopefully a smaller, lighter, and less heat generating plastic frame. This year's HTC One isnt that much better than the Butterfly S which was better than the og HTC One in areas like expandable memory and bigger battery.
Benchmark scores of 36K-38K dont mean squat to me as I've seen the $179 Moto G with its Snapdragon 400 hold its own vs the Nexus 5's Snapdragon 800. And Nexus 4 vs Nexus 5 is just as close. A second or two difference opening apps is not that long to me. I'm patient enough and I dont play alot of graphic intensive games to kill the batt faster.
But the rumored 146 mm in height, 70 mm in width, and weighing 160 grams? With a 2600 mAH battery capacity no bigger than the smaller Butterfly S' 3200 mAH battery from last year? Seriously, HTC? And a heavier metal phone to boot which generates even more heat. HTC phones have always had a reputation for generally poor battery life and it doesnt look they will change that rep anytime soon.
Looks like the best smartphone of 2014 will come from either Apple, Samsung, or LG this year.
iPhone 6
Galaxy Note 4 / or Galaxy F?
G3
Wait for the Butterfly S2 if you want a bigger battery in hopefully a smaller, lighter, and less heat generating plastic frame. This year's HTC One isnt that much better than the Butterfly S which was better than the og HTC One in areas like expandable memory and bigger battery.
Benchmark scores of 36K-38K dont mean squat to me as I've seen the $179 Moto G with its Snapdragon 400 hold its own vs the Nexus 5's Snapdragon 800. And Nexus 4 vs Nexus 5 is just as close. A second or two difference opening apps is not that long to me. I'm patient enough and I dont play alot of graphic intensive games to kill the batt faster.
If the Galaxy F ever becomes a reality I SERIOUSLY doubt it will hit the market any sooner than Q3. Perhaps alongside the Note 4. It just makes no sense IMO to release the S5 in April and then bring a more premium device to the market shortly after.
The Butterfly S never came to North America and I'm guessing the S2 will follow suit.
I won't consider an LG phone as long as they continue to churn out a mediocre speaker.
I don't want a phablet.
So that leaves me with the M8 or iPhone 6. The iPhone 6 should be significantly lighter than the M8 but I don't see Apple attempting dual stereo speakers. The M8 is heavy and amazingly it seems HTC is keeping the 4 MP camera. I'm not concerned about the battery. I expect it to easily last me a day with my usage.
The Xperia Z2 is made of glass, has a flat back, forces you to deal with flaps, and probably isn't coming to AT&T or Verizon.
At this point I'm probably just going to get the M8 and then when the iP6 hits the market I'll compare the two. 2014 is the year where Samsung, Sony, and HTC are offering big and heavy phones as their flagships. Samsung and HTC got bigger and heavier whereas Sony essentially just stayed big and heavy.
The only way HTC can blow this is by sticking with the ultrapixel. For the love of god listen to your audience HTC - don't blow this..........
Its funny how people nitpick the specs of Android phones to death, yet iPhones which receive marginal updates get praised.
Android oem's face a big problem - they don't have the marketing hype or captive audience of Apple, and face competition from each other, so they have to distinguish themselves on specs. HTC and Motorola opted to step out of the spec war and focus on good design and user experience, by all accounts the MotoX/One series of phones have great UIs, features meant to make end user lives easier (front speakers, active notifications etc) rather than gimmicks used in TouchWiz, yet they still get slammed.
Look at One vs S4 - the One was said to have poorer battery/screen size etc back then too, yet in real life it performs just as well or better.
I really wish HTC the best, they are not doing well and need a hit.
Android oem's face a big problem - they don't have the marketing hype or captive audience of Apple, and face competition from each other, so they have to distinguish themselves on specs. HTC and Motorola opted to step out of the spec war and focus on good design and user experience, by all accounts the MotoX/One series of phones have great UIs, features meant to make end user lives easier (front speakers, active notifications etc) rather than gimmicks used in TouchWiz, yet they still get slammed.
Look at One vs S4 - the One was said to have poorer battery/screen size etc back then too, yet in real life it performs just as well or better.
I really wish HTC the best, they are not doing well and need a hit.
I'm sure that decision was made a lonnnng time ago. We'll see what it was soon enough.
It will just be bizarre to give the new desire a 13mp and put a 4mp in its flagship but hey it's the crazy world of android. We will know soon enough
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Who slammed it other than fanboys on forums ? There was universal praise for the device in tech news / magazines from journalists and reviewers, as well as winning a number of WHICH awards.
The biggest criticism from end users was not battery life or screen size but the camera which was a big disappointment on an otherwise stellar handset.
Will be called HTC New One.
Terrible name for such a nice looking device. So next year when the successor gets released, this New One won't be so new anymore? HTC Newer One for 2015?
But I like Sense 6.0 for the motion gestures esp the tap twice to wake up screen in portrait or use volume buttons to wake in landscape. I would be upgrading to those features alone. Just hope it doesn't drain the battery by keeping the sensors on and preventing the phone to go into deep sleep. I have my now "old One" set up where the Wakelock Detector tells me it is awake about 2 min over a 5 hour span. That is 97-99% in deep sleep usually. The longer the deep sleep, the longer the battery esp for standby. About 1-3% battery draining every night (8 hours or so). Hoping these new motion gestures doesn't prevent lesser deep sleeps by keeping the sensors awake. This is why I uninstalled Motion Actions app which drained battery while the screen was off. I have 30% better battery life because of it.
Terrible name for such a nice looking device. So next year when the successor gets released, this New One won't be so new anymore? HTC Newer One for 2015?
But I like Sense 6.0 for the motion gestures esp the tap twice to wake up screen in portrait or use volume buttons to wake in landscape. I would be upgrading to those features alone. Just hope it doesn't drain the battery by keeping the sensors on and preventing the phone to go into deep sleep. I have my now "old One" set up where the Wakelock Detector tells me it is awake about 2 min over a 5 hour span. That is 97-99% in deep sleep usually. The longer the deep sleep, the longer the battery esp for standby. About 1-3% battery draining every night (8 hours or so). Hoping these new motion gestures doesn't prevent lesser deep sleeps by keeping the sensors awake. This is why I uninstalled Motion Actions app which drained battery while the screen was off. I have 30% better battery life because of it.
Here are the specs from gfxbench website, 4 mp cam seems to be true
OS Android 4.4.2
Display 1920 x 1080, 4.9"
touchscreen with at least 5 finger gesture support
CPU quad core CPU @2265MHz
SoC: Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 (Krait - ARMv7)
GPU Qualcomm Adreno 330
3D API OpenGL ES 3.0
Memory 1.8 GB
Storage 11 GB
Front Camera picture: 4.7 MP (2560 x 1920)
video: FHD (1920 x 1088)
Back Camera picture: 3.9 MP (2688 x 1520)
video: FHD (1920 x 1088)
https://gfxbench.com/device.jsp?benchmark=gfx30&os=Android&api=gl&D=HTC+One+%28M8%2C+2014%29&testgroup=info
OS Android 4.4.2
Display 1920 x 1080, 4.9"
touchscreen with at least 5 finger gesture support
CPU quad core CPU @2265MHz
SoC: Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 (Krait - ARMv7)
GPU Qualcomm Adreno 330
3D API OpenGL ES 3.0
Memory 1.8 GB
Storage 11 GB
Front Camera picture: 4.7 MP (2560 x 1920)
video: FHD (1920 x 1088)
Back Camera picture: 3.9 MP (2688 x 1520)
video: FHD (1920 x 1088)
https://gfxbench.com/device.jsp?benchmark=gfx30&os=Android&api=gl&D=HTC+One+%28M8%2C+2014%29&testgroup=info
Here are the specs from gfxbench website, 4 mp cam seems to be true
OS Android 4.4.2
Display 1920 x 1080, 4.9"
touchscreen with at least 5 finger gesture support
CPU quad core CPU @2265MHz
SoC: Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 (Krait - ARMv7)
GPU Qualcomm Adreno ™ 330
3D API OpenGL ES 3.0
Memory 1.8 GB
Storage 11 GB
Front Camera picture: 4.7 MP (2560 x 1920)
video: FHD (1920 x 1088)
Back Camera picture: 3.9 MP (2688 x 1520)
video: FHD (1920 x 1088)
https://gfxbench.com/device.jsp?benchmark=gfx30&os=Android&api=gl&D=HTC+One+%28M8%2C+2014%29&testgroup=info
Front camera having more MP and higher resolution than your main back camera just makes no sense.......
Clearly there is a big disparity at HTC between common sense (consumers) and a HTC's sense....
no micro sd = fixed
Home button misaligned = fixed with on screen buttons
Power button on top = fixed with gestures to wake device up
But..
Rear Camera being poor = feck it! just stick a 5mp shooter on there for selfies.. If they want a higher 13 mega pixel camera they will have to buy our lower end phones..
Just doesn't make sense.
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