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Nissans Senior VP of global design confirmed a new ‘Z’ is coming. Which actually I find shocking with various sports car sale shrinkage and considering how other manufacturers are partnering with each other (i.e BMW/Toyota, Mazda/Fiat).
https://www.caranddriver.com/amp/news/new-nissan-z-project-confirmed
More than anything, I remember when the ‘Z’ market was _huge_ years ago, there was even a ‘Nissan Z Org’ In my city, which had a significant presence that has greatly dwindled where they all separated or sold their cars. I’m just curious how Nissan will create a separation without conflating with the GTR, but still interesting news, because I thought the ‘Z’ was a dead market, yet has been around for quite some time with branding.
https://www.caranddriver.com/amp/news/new-nissan-z-project-confirmed
More than anything, I remember when the ‘Z’ market was _huge_ years ago, there was even a ‘Nissan Z Org’ In my city, which had a significant presence that has greatly dwindled where they all separated or sold their cars. I’m just curious how Nissan will create a separation without conflating with the GTR, but still interesting news, because I thought the ‘Z’ was a dead market, yet has been around for quite some time with branding.
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I am still considering the Genesis G70. If they ever get it launched, it looks like a nice sports sedan alternative to the 3 series and Audi 4 series. No badge snobbery, but I’m ok with that.
The Z and GT-R are separated by a vast differences in performance, price and luxury. Even if Nissan decides to re-align the Z in the market space, there's still a $70K gap to move more upmarket ($30K-40K vs. $100K-110K w/o considering NISMO models) assuming they don't want to dig their heels in and get serious about competing in the sub-$50K sports/performance segment.
Let's face it-with Tesla you're paying for the name-and probably soon for a pile of lawsuits.
I can list 100 reasons why-even if I wanted an electric car-it wouldn't be a Tesla. We can start at build quality, mention the service wait times you mention, and throw in the fact that Tesla can push an OTA firmware update at any time and it would be stupidly easy for a rogue employee to put malicious code in. That's also ignoring the fact that the CEO has shown himself to be unstable and crazy...
just drove my truck from LA to Vegas and back. got 17.1 mpg. this is the best mpg I've seen in the first 2000 miles.
That's reasonably decent for a pickup - I've been astounded by the MPG/efficiency of our new-ish Durango RT, even with 6-passengers and hitch carrier loaded with gear.
just drove my truck from LA to Vegas and back. got 17.1 mpg. this is the best mpg I've seen in the first 2000 miles.
I'd like to get 17mpg I'd probably do an embarrassing happy dance at the gas station
i get like 22 every day driving to work
I don’t know if I have one car that gets real life 22mpg even on the highway.
This is a nicer way of saying Musk is a douchebag and that Tesla is hurtling towards bankruptcy.
You mentioned that back in August. I think the G70 is probably not practical for the average person, I watched a presentation back from N.Y Autoshsow. (Being that it is based off the Kia Stinger Platform). I think it’s a combination of the German era with Audi and BMW, especially with that wired mesh grill. But the Sport trim is nicely paired with the 3.3 T.T-(365) HP/376 Tq or the 2.0 T T.-252 HP/260TQ [Which the 2.0 trim is offering a Manual]. As far aesthetics are concerned, I do like the exterior more than I do from the interior photo’s.
North of my City, we have a Hyundai/Genesis dealer that coexist together, but I don’t see Genesis brand on the road very much or very little marketing exists in addition. Curious to see how the G70 competes over-All.
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I see Genesis all over the place. As far as people I know who have had them I hear mixed reviews. General impression I get is they fall between Acura/Buick and the Germans
Years back, I looked at the 5.0 Genesis, loaded, V8, beautiful car. In my area, I see way more stinger GT’s then I do the Genesis brand, but then again we have like three Kia dealers within a 25 mile radius.
Yeah, a lot of people talk about specific models of Lexus (Lexii?) being a "fancy Toyota", but having owned both, I can tell, the dealer experience at Lexus was just about the worth the extra price (everything else equal).
The Levinson audio option - at least when I heard it in an LS460, was __stunning__ for OEM car audio (for any car audio for that matter).
My local Toyota dealer will do all Lexus maintenance and repairs for 10-40% off Lexus price. I suspect he won't want to deal with the hybrid system but it really shouldn't need touching. He's also significantly closer.
I was listening to Ted Green's solo album (electric jazz guitar) and was blown away by the quiet warmth.
Yes but I think there are various generation hybrid systems and don’t know how they line up. The Lexus shares many parts with the Avalon along with the Camry and I’ll just assume the techs with know more than I do! They better.
Avalon, Camry, and Lexus ES share the same platform.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_New_Global_Architecture