The Car Thread ... !

[The-Real-Deal82]

Yeah, yielding the passing lane to faster drivers seems somehow courteous to me. Plus, here in the US, it's what you are supposed to do.

It’s a requirement in the UK too, but up to the speed limit. If someone is in lane 3 here doing 70mph and overtaking vehicles in lane 2, you’re not obligated to move over for impatient drivers wanting to break the speed limit who are tailgating you. You pull over when it’s clear and shouldn’t lane hog. I’m quite often going over the speed limit on the motorway like most people do, but there’s always someone who wants to go even faster. They are welcome to kill themselves as long as they don’t take me and my family with them.

 

[InvertedGoldfish]

Always on the left unless overtaking in my country thank you.
No one said I drive slowly. I just drive at the correct speed for the road and the conditions.

Those that speed or drive aggressively in my experience are just trying to assert their masculinity to hide their shortcomings in other areas. I’ve never suffered from any shortcomings in those areas, but you do what you need to do.

Ahh you’re not in America


It’s a very different and somewhat incompatible/incomparable culture

But as long as you’re not in the passing lane it will be no factor for you

 

[Apple fanboy]

Ahh you’re not in America


It’s a very different and somewhat incompatible/incomparable culture

But as long as you’re not in the passing lane it will be no factor for you

As I said I use the overtaking lanes when it is appropriate to do so. Overtake car’s moving slower on the left.
What I don’t do is tailgate, drive aggressively and drive at speeds inappropriate for the road and conditions.
Hopefully you don’t either (despite saying you do).

 

[InvertedGoldfish]

It’s a requirement in the UK too, but up to the speed limit. If someone is in lane 3 here doing 70mph and overtaking vehicles in lane 2, you’re not obligated to move over for impatient drivers wanting to break the speed limit who are tailgating you. You pull over when it’s clear and shouldn’t lane hog. I’m quite often going over the speed limit on the motorway like most people do, but there’s always someone who wants to go even faster. They are welcome to kill themselves as long as they don’t take me and my family with them.

I worked EMS and Fire, the majority of crashes were bad drivers not high speed in high performance cars


The soccer mom in the minivan or grandpa in the Toyota is much more likely to take you and your family out

 

[InvertedGoldfish]

As I said I use the overtaking lanes when it is appropriate to do so. Overtake car’s moving slower on the left.
What I don’t do is tailgate, drive aggressively and drive at speeds inappropriate for the road and conditions.
Hopefully you don’t either (despite saying you do).

I don’t tailgate, it’s stupid and I understand separation

But most speed limits are artificially low and I enjoy driving so I’m often above the speed limit, and in the corners I don’t almost come to a stop like most drivers lol

 

[millerj123]

It’s a requirement in the UK too, but up to the speed limit. If someone is in lane 3 here doing 70mph and overtaking vehicles in lane 2, you’re not obligated to move over for impatient drivers wanting to break the speed limit who are tailgating you. You pull over when it’s clear and shouldn’t lane hog. I’m quite often going over the speed limit on the motorway like most people do, but there’s always someone who wants to go even faster. They are welcome to kill themselves as long as they don’t take me and my family with them.

Ah, we get folks in the passing lane matching speed with those in the next lane, thus blocking everyone behind them. This happens often enough to be called "<locale> roadblocks"

 

[Apple fanboy]

To be honest there are so many speed cameras on the motorway I use everyday, going about 70 is just a route to losing your licence.
But I don’t sit in the outside lane at 70 and block others from collecting points!

 

[cyb3rdud3]

It’s a requirement in the UK too, but up to the speed limit. If someone is in lane 3 here doing 70mph and overtaking vehicles in lane 2, you’re not obligated to move over for impatient drivers wanting to break the speed limit who are tailgating you. You pull over when it’s clear and shouldn’t lane hog. I’m quite often going over the speed limit on the motorway like most people do, but there’s always someone who wants to go even faster. They are welcome to kill themselves as long as they don’t take me and my family with them.

As long as you are actually overtaking, and pull over. Unfortunately, that is too often not the case, and they stay out there to then five minutes later overtake the next one as well. Sure, it is not an excuse, but no wonder people start to tailgates with idiots like that on the road.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

Ah, we get folks in the passing lane matching speed with those in the next lane, thus blocking everyone behind them. This happens often enough to be called " roadblocks"

We get those here too, just matching the speed of the other lanes without getting past and it’s probably the biggest cause of road rage on the motorway. You can only pass on the right here too and in these sorts of situations you’ll see drivers undertaking out of frustration.

 

[Tagbert]

Ahh you’re not in America


It’s a very different and somewhat incompatible/incomparable culture

But as long as you’re not in the passing lane it will be no factor for you

If you were to drive in Brasil you would see American drivers as careful and rule abiding. Brasilian see any car in the lane ahead of them as a challenge to be overcome. 😊

I’ve never driven in Italy but my impression is that it is similar.

 

[InvertedGoldfish]

If you were to drive in Brasil you would see American drivers as careful and rule abiding. Brasilian see any car in the lane ahead of them as a challenge to be overcome. 😊

I’ve never driven in Italy but my impression is that it is similar.

Perhaps


Traveled a bit, but traveling has made me understand how much I love the US


It’s fun to visit, but lifestyle wise I have zero desire to live elsewhere

 

[AlaskaMoose]

I worked EMS and Fire, the majority of crashes were bad drivers not high speed in high performance cars


The soccer mom in the minivan or grandpa in the Toyota is much more likely to take you and your family out

Agree about speed not being the primary reason for accidents. At least in the US the drivers causing most accidents are impaired (drug, alcohol, meds). But young and inexperienced drivers are high in the list. There are distracted drivers too, specially the young talking/listening to the passengers in the vehicle, and so on, or anybody texting or looking at the vehicle screen (young and old).

 

[Kung]

If you were to drive in Brasil you would see American drivers as careful and rule abiding. Brasilian see any car in the lane ahead of them as a challenge to be overcome. 😊

I’ve never driven in Italy but my impression is that it is similar.

Not from Italy (I'm from the US) but have driven there multiple times, and I agree 100%. From what I could tell there were basically two rules to abide by:

1. Drive as fast as you can.
2. Pedestrians are worth points. LOL

 

[InvertedGoldfish]

Agree about speed not being the primary reason for accidents. At least in the US the drivers causing most accidents are impaired (drug, alcohol, meds). But young and inexperienced drivers are high in the list. There are distracted drivers too, specially the young talking/listening to the passengers in the vehicle, and so on, or anybody texting or looking at the vehicle screen (young and old).

Also illegals, when I was in FL we have a good sized influx of people who illegally come over from Cuba
Think it was like for every 10 that come over 7 stay in FL


Well issue is going from driving a donkey or maybe a old car going 15mph to going 85 on the 95, it doesn’t translate well

 

[TehFalcon]

Got a 2015 BMW i3 REx w/ Tech & Tera Package for a daily commuter. Been loving the quirky thing.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

Got a 2015 BMW i3 REx w/ Tech & Tera Package for a daily commuter. Been loving the quirky thing. View attachment 2296632

I think @Apple fanboy will be impressed with your purchase. A great little EV, enjoy

 

[Apple fanboy]

Got a 2015 BMW i3 REx w/ Tech & Tera Package for a daily commuter. Been loving the quirky thing. View attachment 2296632

Fun aren’t they? Had mine about 18 months. I have a 2021 i3s. Full leather and just about every option going.
Enjoy your new ride.

 

[TehFalcon]

Fun aren’t they? Had mine about 18 months. I have a 2021 i3s. Full leather and just about every option going.
Enjoy your new ride.

Very fun, for sure its more quirky and faster than the 2016 VW e-Golf I traded for it. The only things I do miss about the e-Golf are the handling (I think this comes down to the tiny tires on the BMW lol), CarPlay (no native carplay on my prefacelift and the carplay boxs suuuuck), and having no options for tires.

The i3 has been my plan to keep for a couple years until some more EV options come out in the lower price ranges, but with how much i've been enjoying it I may just pay it off and keep it lol

 

[Apple fanboy]

Very fun, for sure its more quirky and faster than the 2016 VW e-Golf I traded for it. The only things I do miss about the e-Golf are the handling (I think this comes down to the tiny tires on the BMW lol), CarPlay (no native carplay on my prefacelift and the carplay boxs suuuuck), and having no options for tires.

The i3 has been my plan to keep for a couple years until some more EV options come out in the lower price ranges, but with how much i've been enjoying it I may just pay it off and keep it lol

So my last car was a Golf (not an e-Golf) and I actually prefer the handling on the i3s. But the 20" wheels are a bit wider with a different set up on the std i3. I have wireless CarPlay on mine which I didn't have on my Golf. Very convenient. I think you could retrofit it to yours. I'm sure I saw a guide on YT somewhere.
Planning to keep mine for a long time hopefully.

 

[TehFalcon]

So my last car was a Golf (not an e-Golf) and I actually prefer the handling on the i3s. But the 20" wheels are a bit wider with a different set up on the std i3. I have wireless CarPlay on mine which I didn't have on my Golf. Very convenient. I think you could retrofit it to yours. I'm sure I saw a guide on YT somewhere.
Planning to keep mine for a long time hopefully.

I have a GTI along with the i3, but the e-Golf starts out as a Golf R in the factory and kinda turns handling up a notch with the battery making the center of gravity really low, the regular Golf would for sure handle way different haha. But yeah the i3S with all its upgrades I can see handling much better.

As far as CarPlay retrofit, I can do it but it's VERY expensive haha. I'm using the dumb "roadtop" carplay box for now but it's really not a good system. Maybe one day!

 

[YoitsTmac]

I have a GTI along with the i3, but the e-Golf starts out as a Golf R in the factory and kinda turns handling up a notch with the battery making the center of gravity really low, the regular Golf would for sure handle way different haha. But yeah the i3S with all its upgrades I can see handling much better.

As far as CarPlay retrofit, I can do it but it's VERY expensive haha. I'm using the dumb "roadtop" carplay box for now but it's really not a good system. Maybe one day!

PM me the last 7 of your VIN. I’m a BMW tech. Although I’m not immediately familiar with the headunit of the i3, for a late build like yours, this should be a remote $150 flash

Edit: nevermind. I don’t know why I thought you had a later year. But a quick google says the “Road Trip Wireless CarPlay” is the one to get for the i3 for about $300 if you’re a DIY guy

 

[TehFalcon]

PM me the last 7 of your VIN. I’m a BMW tech. Although I’m not immediately familiar with the headunit of the i3, for a late build like yours, this should be a remote $150 flash

Edit: nevermind. I don’t know why I thought you had a later year. But a quick google says the “Road Trip Wireless CarPlay” is the one to get for the i3 for about $300 if you’re a DIY guy

Thats what I have, the experience just is less than optimal lol, flaky connection and since it piggybacks off the NBT head unit it sucks switching back and forth everytime you get in the car haha. One day i'll just upgrade the headunit to the NBT EVO from 2017+ i3's

 

[YoitsTmac]

Can you DIY? I have a guy. He would have sold me an EVO HU for $300. But to retain phone and connected services, you’ll have a little more work

 

[TehFalcon]

Can you DIY? I have a guy. He would have sold me an EVO HU for $300. But to retain phone and connected services, you’ll have a little more work

yeah I'm all about DIY. I dont have phone/connected services right now anyway because being a 2015 the 3G shutdown ended support for my car so that hasn't been a worry of mine haha

 

[1129846]

Try better ICE cars; on the cheap end, a VW Golf R with DSG gearbox blows most away. Even a not much more expensive BMW M2C with its twin turbo will go even faster, let alone in the corners, and just keeps on going again with that excellent dual clutch gearbox. And when you mention supercharged direct injection V8s they are pretty damn quick in their power band, as in as good as instant.

But yes, perhaps up to 30mph (ca. 48 km/h) the instant EV torque has the upper hand, thereafter most will be left for dust, and even more so as they keep going well beyond 100mph (ca. 161 km/h), unlike many EVs. The Tesla Plaid, top-end Porsche Taycan, and the top-end Lotus Eletre are the exceptions. Audi EVs are definitely not in that category, very reserved with power. And also with Mercedes, only the top-end models have those party tricks.

Don't get me wrong, we like our Polestar 2 with performance upgrade, but I know its limitations. Despite it having more power on paper, it doesn't even come close to the cheaper and less powerful BMW M2C we had before that.

But seriously, the Santa Fe may have a turbo, but it is only a 7.6s 0-60 car. It is, like I mentioned before, pretty damn slow, so I'm not surprised a Mach E feels quick.

I think you miss the point as in their power bans those ICE cars will beat a lot of EVs but the key part is power bands. Start them from idle power vs an EV and it is not so was any more. The EV gets a 0.5 second head start if now more while the engine finishes spooling up to full power hence to the average person EV are fast off the line and very fast when power is needed. Remember EVs are always in launch control mode.