The Car Thread ... !

[InvertedGoldfish]

My car weighs 1340 kg’s. So pretty lightweight thanks to carbon fibre and aluminium construction.
Weighs less than my old petrol golf. Handles better too.
I charge once to twice a week.

If you’re charging once a week you’re probably not a very spirited driver


Don’t really speak that weight wise, but the Tesla cars weigh as much as a F150 truck, CG is on the deck for sure, but if you really work one through the corners or decel going into a corner as you have to with that much “junk in the trunk” it’s just not a agile car


As far as the smooth brain “I hit gas I go fast” yeah compared to most cars you find the Jones driving it feels quick, but if you’re actually working it through a windy road or a track they kinda suck

Maybe one day the battery tech will get there, but it’s going to be a quantum leap from today


Watch some videos of a accomplished drivers working a Tesla through the corners, then find a video on the same track on a Porsche or Miata


Here ya go

For those who don’t know the sports turbo caddies are remarkably cars

 

[Apple fanboy]

If you’re charging once a week you’re probably not a very spirited driver


Don’t really speak that weight wise, but the Tesla cars weigh as much as a F150 truck, CG is on the deck for sure, but if you really work one through the corners or decel going into a corner as you have to with that much “junk in the trunk” it’s just not a agile car


As far as the smooth brain “I hit gas I go fast” yeah compared to most cars you find the Jones driving it feels quick, but if you’re actually working it through a windy road or a track they kinda suck

Maybe one day the battery tech will get there, but it’s going to be a quantum leap from today


Watch some videos of a accomplished drivers working a Tesla through the corners, then find a video on the same track on a Porsche or Miata

Well it weighs a lot less than a Tesla or a truck.
No I don’t drive around like a maniac. I grew out of that decades ago.
Battery tech does what it needs to. Gets me to work and back without costing the planet (or me for fuel!).

 

[InvertedGoldfish]

Well it weighs a lot less than a Tesla or a truck.
No I don’t drive around like a maniac. I grew out of that decades ago.
Battery tech does what it needs to. Gets me to work and back without costing the planet (or me for fuel!).

Electricity comes from somewhere


I sorry to hear your loss of passion for driving 😔



If my daily driver tires ever last more than a year or year and a half I’ll be disappointed in myself



Heck part of me still scoffs at the electric rack steering and other nanny stuff in most cars, still have a late 60s sports car, it warms the soul to get back into her and drive a full analog manual leather, chrome and gas vehicle, plus the steering wheel does not adjust for fatties, a proper vehicle. The feedback you get with a car like that going into the corners even puts my much more advanced sports car to shame

 

[Apple fanboy]

Electricity comes from somewhere


I sorry to hear your loss of passion for driving 😔



If my daily driver tires ever last more than a year or year and a half I’ll be disappointed in myself



Heck part of me still scoffs at the electric rack steering and other nanny stuff in most cars, still have a late 60s sports car, it warms the soul to get back into her and drive a full analog manual leather, chrome and gas vehicle, plus the steering wheel does not adjust for fatties, a proper vehicle. The feedback you get with a car like that going into the corners even puts my much more advanced sports car to shame

Wind, solar and nuclear mostly. Eventually all of it.
Don’t worry. You’ll grow out of it too at some point.
Just replaced the rears. I think they were original, so three years of use.
Of course eventually there will be no more petrol cars on the road. That will be good.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

Well it weighs a lot less than a Tesla or a truck.
No I don’t drive around like a maniac. I grew out of that decades ago.
Battery tech does what it needs to. Gets me to work and back without costing the planet (or me for fuel!).

I’m a bit bewildered by the responses you keep getting, just talking about your car handling nicely seems to attract irrelevant bizarre comparisons to racing cars on public roads and track handling, what on earth?

 

[Chuckeee]

I’m a bit bewildered by the responses you keep getting, just talking about your car handling nicely seems to attract irrelevant bizarre comparisons to racing cars on public roads and track handling, what on earth?

Hence my 155hp, 2332 pound Miata. 😁

 

[Apple fanboy]

I’m a bit bewildered by the responses you keep getting, just talking about your car handling nicely seems to attract irrelevant bizarre comparisons to racing cars on public roads and track handling, what on earth?

Haters are going to hate I’m afraid.
You get used to it.

 

[InvertedGoldfish]

I’m a bit bewildered by the responses you keep getting, just talking about your car handling nicely seems to attract irrelevant bizarre comparisons to racing cars on public roads and track handling, what on earth?

A 4 door caddy is a “race car” Mmmk

 

[Apple fanboy]

Hence my 155hp, 2332 pound Miata. 😁

Not too practical in the UK. A convertible wouldn’t be much use with all the rain.
But at least it’s not an SUV.

 

[InvertedGoldfish]

Wind, solar and nuclear mostly. Eventually all of it.
Don’t worry. You’ll grow out of it too at some point.
Just replaced the rears. I think they were original, so three years of use.
Of course eventually there will be no more petrol cars on the road. That will be good.

Never going to happen


The price point to life span of electrics, compared to the average household income, just ain’t in the cards


Plus many states have a hard enough time with folks running their home AC and heaters on the grid at the same time

 

[InvertedGoldfish]

Not too practical in the UK. A convertible wouldn’t be much use with all the rain.
But at least it’s not an SUV.

I don’t understand?


How’s a Miata not practical? Rag top can always go fiberglass clip on, but a properly maintained ragtop is plenty for the benign conditions of the UK

 

[YoitsTmac]

I think you miss the point as in their power bans those ICE cars will beat a lot of EVs but the key part is power bands. Start them from idle power vs an EV and it is not so was any more. The EV gets a 0.5 second head start if now more while the engine finishes spooling up to full power hence to the average person EV are fast off the line and very fast when power is needed. Remember EVs are always in launch control mode.

There’s more to car ownership pleasure than the acceleration from a dig. In my opinion that gets old pretty fast. Adding more elements to driving: gears, power band, the noise, vibration, shifting veracity, steering feel…in my opinion those all contribute to the net enjoyment of a car. We all want different qualities and for some, acceleration from a dig is the most important. I’d say most “car people” still looking at ICE are chasing more or less every other quality

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

A 4 door caddy is a “race car” Mmmk

What are you talking about? I’m starting to think your posts are software generated.

 

[Chuckeee]

Not too practical in the UK. A convertible wouldn’t be much use with all the rain.
But at least it’s not an SUV.

What about MG Midgets? Totally impractical but about as British as there is.

 

[Apple fanboy]

Never going to happen


The price point to life span of electrics, compared to the average household income, just ain’t in the cards


Plus many states have a hard enough time with folks running their home AC and heaters on the grid at the same time

Thank goodness I don't live in the states. Like most things the US will catch up with the rest of the world at some point.

 

[InvertedGoldfish]

What are you talking about? I’m starting to think your posts are software generated.

“Anyone who disagrees with me is a bot”

C’mon man!

What race car was compared to the electric car?

 

[InvertedGoldfish]

What about MG Midgets? Totally impractical but about as British as there is.

Tiny car with three wipers!


Always likes the B and C myself, MG is a car persons car

 

[Apple fanboy]

What about MG Midgets? Totally impractical but about as British as there is.

Indeed. But most MG's are owned for the pleasure of working on them not driving them. They are always off the road! My relative had one for about 30 years. It was off the road more than on it.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

“Anyone who disagrees with me is a bot”

C’mon man!

What race car was compared to the electric car?

The other poster was talking about their EV and you compared the handling to driving fast through corners and on a race track.

I didn’t suggest you were a bot because I disagreed with you, it’s just your post made absolutely no sense, like an AI mistake.

‘4 door caddy race car’??

 

[InvertedGoldfish]

Indeed. But most MG's are owned for the pleasure of working on them not driving them. They are always off the road! My relative had one for about 30 years. It was off the road more than on it.

As they should be, its mission is specific, did he have a proper driving blanket too of his family tartan?

 

[InvertedGoldfish]

The other poster was talking about their EV and you compared the handling to driving fast through corners and on a race track.

I didn’t suggest you were a bot because I disagreed with you, it’s just your post made absolutely no sense, like an AI mistake.

I drive fast through the corners every day



Life is far too short for slow cars and small skid pads

 

[InvertedGoldfish]

Cost of electric is more then gas

https://www.texaspolicy.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/2023-10-TrueCostofEVs-BennettIsaac.pdf

“Study: Cost of ‘fueling’ an electric vehicle is equivalent to $17.33 per gallon”

 

[YoitsTmac]

Cost of electric is more then gas

https://www.texaspolicy.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/2023-10-TrueCostofEVs-BennettIsaac.pdf

“Study: Cost of ‘fueling’ an electric vehicle is equivalent to $17.33 per gallon”

While I don’t consider electric the future for vehicles with current technology, it’s a little vague. About $6 of that cost to fuel owners is part of the government trying to incentivize people to switch to electric for xyz reasons.

It also doesn’t clarify what constitutes a “per gallon” for a vehicle that doesn’t carry “any gallons” of fuel (at least in a 5 minute glance). Per the EPA 33.7 kilowatt hours of electricity is equivalent to one gallon of gasoline. Most electric cars carry “2-3 gallons” of gas, meaning even all else considered, are $34-$50 to “fill up.”

I don’t like electric, but it’s a little skewed. Where you live can greatly change the benefit as well. Just remember stats can always be skewed to fit a desired conclusion. However, I do think that PDF touches on some great points.

 

[Tagbert]

Never going to happen


The price point to life span of electrics, compared to the average household income, just ain’t in the cards


Plus many states have a hard enough time with folks running their home AC and heaters on the grid at the same time

Why would they need to run their AC and Heaters at the same time? Maybe that’s the problem?

 

[cyb3rdud3]

Cost of electric is more then gas

https://www.texaspolicy.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/2023-10-TrueCostofEVs-BennettIsaac.pdf

“Study: Cost of ‘fueling’ an electric vehicle is equivalent to $17.33 per gallon”

You got to love stats and lobby groups presenting them in a way to make their case...

In the real world, I don't get subsidies on my electric, nor petrol. There is no additional charging and metering cost, nor a need for infrastructure, and no credits.

In comparison to the BMW M2C DCT we had, our Polestar 2 Pilot/Plus with Performance upgrade is 27.789% of our annual electricity bill with the same miles driven.

Mileage: 18,000 mile(s)
Fuel type: SuperUnleaded
Fuel price used for this calculation: 168.16 pence per liter
Mpg used for this calculation: 29.10 MPG
That is £4,744.99 for the BMW M2C.

In comparison, we used 4,050 kW for our Polestar @ £0.25996 per kWh. £1,040.81.

The capital cost of the cars are as good as the same. So a much faster and powerful car than a BMW M2C, and way cheaper to run. What's not to like!