I agree. I think that’s my big issue with going “electric is the future. It is the best, and everyone needs to get behind it.” It’s okay to admit that given current advancements, that gas just makes more sense. The pushes on the consumer side to improve electric will dictate if and when long haulers can make the same transition. Electric is great for last mile delivery, but we have a ton of work before it’s ready for long-haul. I’d be curious if there’s any environmental impact charts on the impacts of electric hauling vs combustion hauling
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In my area almost all Amazon trucks are Rivian EVs. In contrast the USPS vehicles make you choke with the fumes emitted by their poorly tuned gas engines.In Brooklyn NY (where I work), I am seeing more and more Amazon Rivian EVs.
Here is one from a few months back:
I understand, and agree about these vehicles being more capable than what we may have thought before. Their limit relates to the amount of electricity that can be stored in the battery over battery weight and bulk. If there was a way-in the future-for an EV to generate enough electrical power to keep the battery charged by at least 50%, then smaller batteries could be used, and charging time at home, or along the road to top charge, would be much shorter.
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New RAM hybrid looks nice.
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It has been stated before. A Tesla model 3 and model Y are NOT significantly heavier than a similarly equipped ICE vehicle. Heavier yes, significantly heavier no.
You are continuing to argue about the weight and range of battery tech today. You expect an entirely new technology to be fully mature on day 1. It never happens that way. ICE have had 100+ years as the main mode of transportation, and yet their engine tech has still significantly advanced in the last 15 years.
We have gone from almost no EV’s on the road 10 years ago to Tesla producing 1M+ vehicles per year, to major manufacturers developing EVs to Tesla Model Y being the number 1 selling vehicle worldwide for the first 2Q of 2023. Even with that, we are in the infancy of EVs.
Do you need people to drive EV’s for it to enhance the enjoyment you get from your own car? I have one of each and it makes no difference to me
Do you need people to drive EV’s for it to enhance the enjoyment you get from your own car? I have one of each and it makes no difference to me
No, but especially in the SF Bay Area and especially in my area, there’s very much a culture of “this is what we have to do for the environment. Get on board ASAP.” And I still operate under the belief that we’ll reach a point where x% of people will be electric and ICE negative externalities will be left alone. I even imagine if x gets high enough, smog checks will be omitted.
To be clear, there will absolutely be a day where I’ll daily an electric car. It may even be close by. But I think ICE has a charisma and character that won’t be replicated. Picking gears, staying in the power band, me being in control of traction, the vibrations and noise…etc
Different strokes for different folks. For me I don’t miss that and enjoy the apparent tranquility of my EV.
Indeed. Having owned and driven both ICE cars (most of my life) and an EV (last 18 months), I know which I prefer.
I find lots of people who own ICE vehicles who tell me why they won't work. I've not met one EV owner who said they didn't and has switched back. Not one. I don't wonder why for a second.
I was watching this video recently! This RAM truck sounds very interesting.New RAM hybrid looks nice.
Meet The Range Extending 2025 Ram 1500 Ramcharger Pickup
Ram has unveiled its updated 2025 Ram 1500 (DT) lineup, featuring the all-new Ram 1500 Ramcharger. Previously referred to as the Ram 1500 REV XR, this model represents a significant advancement in electric pickup technology, addressing current market challenges.
Perhaps you didn't understand what I was saying? All I was referring to was about batteries being too heavy and bulky, which is the primary reason why they aren't used to propel aircraft. Also, a haul truck (very large semi) would need enormous batteries (heavy and bulky) that take a lot of cargo room. Today's battery technology that allows for building lightweight batteries for long range driving do not exist. If you want a long-range EV, it will have a large capacity battery (heavy and bulky). Tesla has no other choice but to use batteries that exceed 1,000 pounds for the higher performance automobiles that have motors in the front and rear. I have no idea what I can say about your second and third paragraphs, since that has nothing to do with anything I have said.
This video was published two years ago, and shows how Tesla manages to to build lighter vehicles:
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I certainly don’t get the charisma and character when I do my daily commute in a manual, it’s quite tiring of late in the type of traffic I’m in. There are times when I think i’ll miss it, but I’ve been driving a manual for 24 years and driving my wife’s EV is effortless and something I could get used to.
When I first moved to the great garden state back in 1990 I drove the most heavily trafficked road in the state with a manual Toyota.l which I had for a few years prior.
I did this for about 5 years and was so glad to get a car with automatic transmission. I’m still driving that same road but navigate on autopilot puts the trip into an entirely different category.
Same, for a daily commute, I'm definitely not looking for charisma and character. I prefer luxury, comfort, peacefulness, and power. My toys, entirely different, but that is what the other cars are for.
I drive a reverse commute that’s less than 15 miles, so all I have is open roads for fun, great on ramps and off ramps, etc.
If I had a traditional 1hr or traffic commute, I would feel differently. I still contemplate getting an i3 for around town, but I’d rather just hunt down a remote job
My daily commute is 14 miles each way and in the morning it can take me 33 to 45 minutes and at night its generally takes me 45 minutes to 1hr 10 minutes. An EV or even an auto transmission car would make life a lot easier, but I don't need to waste my money changing my car at the moment. It owes me nothing, has low mileage and is comfortable when not in heavy traffic.
Commuting is not fun, regardless of which type of vehicle one drives. The four vehicles my wife and I drive have automatic transmissions. Both of us learned and drove manual transmission cars and trucks until 2010, so we do miss them. Back in the late '70s and early '80s in New York City, I drove a Volvo 162, a Lancia, Alfa Romeo, all with manual transmissions. Heavy traffic, rear-wheel drive, the lack of ABS and traction controls, no 4-wheel drive, etc. weren't an issue. In 1982 my wife and I drove two cars from Alaska to Seattle, Washington, then to California. In 1987 we drove two cars Northern NY to Montreal, then headed west to Seattle, and finally North through Canada to Alaska. We would drive from 250 to 350 miles daily, and rested at night in motels along the way (we had three children with us).
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I have not owned a car since 2012 due to living in Singapore and the Philippines. When I am back working in the UK I do have the use of my mothers car but I never use it. The traffic is terrible and it is so difficult to find anywhere to park or it is insanely expensive.
When I work I have to travel from East London right across to West London and public transport is generally so good I would never use the car.
When there is a train strike and I have no choice it takes me 50 minute to drive to work compared to 1 hour 20 minute on trains. Great right? Hmm that's at 5am. Leaving work at 4pm the train journey would still be the same 1 hour and 20 minutes. In the car? Between 3 and 4 hours..................
When I work I have to travel from East London right across to West London and public transport is generally so good I would never use the car.
When there is a train strike and I have no choice it takes me 50 minute to drive to work compared to 1 hour 20 minute on trains. Great right? Hmm that's at 5am. Leaving work at 4pm the train journey would still be the same 1 hour and 20 minutes. In the car? Between 3 and 4 hours..................
Just came across this video of a Tesla on Reddit. Surely this isn’t the typical Tesla experience because that was not a good showing on their part.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Crazy****i...esla_fans_compare_a_waymo_robotaxi_to_teslas/
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Saw my first cybertruck on the road today. Dull finish, light battleship grey. No picture as I was at a stoplight. Makes an AMC Pacer look like the latest Italian design in comparison.
I added wireless CarPlay and MagSafe charging to my car. Had to design and 3D print my own custom mount.
That toy is scarily ugly. I imagine that after a big crash it would be cheaper to replace it with a new one, than to rebuild. I assume that anybody buying a cybertruck is not the average grocery store low-wage worker. I read some reports where the average monthly payment for insurance is $400.00 per month.
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Couldn't agree more. Not for me.That toy is scarily ugly. I imagine that after a big crash it would be cheaper to replace it with a new one, than to rebuild it. I wonder how high the insurance payments will be? Anyway, I assume that anybody buying a cybertuck is not the average grocery store low-wage worker:
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"I'm currently content with my car, but I'm considering transitioning it to autocross/track duty in a few years. I'm contemplating the idea of getting an S5 convertible as my daily driver. However, there's still a lingering desire for a powerful big V8.