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oldmacs

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I do not have those issues on my 6s; with or without animations and/or transparency.

Then prove it... Theres obvious proof of the opposite I don't know why I bother, we go around and around in circles here.

Its also obvious that some people notice things that some don't. My Mum can't tell the difference between a retina and non retina screen. Perception is a very different thing between people.
 

Act3

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I think its also pretty bad that the Air 2 will lag and stutter when moving between apps in split screen mode and in 10 minutes of playing with an iPad Pro, there was the occasional stuttering. Its pretty hilarious with the overkill specs that the iPad Pro has and the powerful specs that the Air 2 have, that iOS 9 still doesn't fully cope. That is truly a sign of some poor coding or optimisation.

I notice stutter and lag when using my Air 2 with the split keyboard and safari. However, with reduced transparency on or if I make it "not a split" keyboard, it is smooth as can be. This is a high use activity on the iPad for me.

 
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diamond.g

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Have the 6s; not the plus.
I don't see any lag or stuttering on my 6s either. I don't have the plus. Supposedly the Plus has animation lag or stutter with 3D Touch. I actually wonder if Metal isn't mature enough to replace OpenGL ES as of yet.
 

Max(IT)

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If you bothered to watch the video, it was about 3d touch menus and simply exiting out of settings. The drop in frame rate activating 3D touch in the video is the same sort of frame-rate drop I get in my Mini 2 in so many animations, which funnily enough goes away when transparency is turned off (As demonstrated in that video). Then there are the random stutters all the time, which happened in that video when the home button was pressed while in settings.

I think it is ridiculous that Apple can't put together a mobile OS that can't just render animations and blurs well, especially when that OS was minimal on featured and was specifically meant to improve animations, speed and stability.

I think its also pretty bad that the Air 2 will lag and stutter when moving between apps in split screen mode and in 10 minutes of playing with an iPad Pro, there was the occasional stuttering. Its pretty hilarious with the overkill specs that the iPad Pro has and the powerful specs that the Air 2 have, that iOS 9 still doesn't fully cope. That is truly a sign of some poor coding or optimisation.

My $90 Windows tablet is cheap and quite underpowered, yet it can consistantly render animations, but for some reason iPads over $700 can't.

I guess though, there is no point in replying to this thread. I'll get called an Apple hater, because I don't consider stutter and lag on expensive high end products reasonable or normal.
Except there is no lag or stuttering on my iDevices, even an old iPad Air, or in every iPhone 5S or later I have seen ....

Then prove it... Theres obvious proof of the opposite I don't know why I bother, we go around and around in circles here.

Its also obvious that some people notice things that some don't. My Mum can't tell the difference between a retina and non retina screen. Perception is a very different thing between people.
You didn't prove the contrary, since I can't see any issue in the video above.

I don't see any lag or stuttering on my 6s either. I don't have the plus. Supposedly the Plus has animation lag or stutter with 3D Touch. I actually wonder if Metal isn't mature enough to replace OpenGL ES as of yet.
Yep, Metal isnt mature as of today. I'd give them time.
 

dk001

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Oct 3, 2014
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Then prove it... Theres obvious proof of the opposite I don't know why I bother, we go around and around in circles here.

Its also obvious that some people notice things that some don't. My Mum can't tell the difference between a retina and non retina screen. Perception is a very different thing between people.

Mine can and stole, stole I tell yu'! my iPad 4. :eek:
 

dk001

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You can't solve all the issues, can't foresee nor fix all the problems that crop up, nor satisfy everyone.
What CAN be done is make sure the basics work and function to the best of the systems ability.
Since iOS 7, this basic has been missing.

With Android we made fun of the lag, the stutter, however Google always worked to improve the underlying OS. What we are seeing from Apple these days is a focus on New Features. When we do get the "it's faster and smoother and ..." from Apple it will likely as not be true at launch.

The issues are there. They are measurable. All may not be able to see them nor even be aware of them. Others are simply accepting. Still, it is an indicative point on the evolution of Apple.

This is no longer Steve Job's Apple, it is Tim Cook's Apple. Like it or not. To me it's not the Apple that was.

Yes, lag and stutter matter along with everything else; good and bad.
 

C DM

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The perfect conclusion.Steve Jobs's Apple would never allow the RIVAL OS to run better on their own hardware for starters.Not to mention waiting till X.4.1 release for good performance only to be broken in a month by new releases
Sounds like we've arrived at Apple's version of Godwin's Law. That petty much concludes going around the same circle repeatedly.
 

Radon87000

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Except there is no lag or stuttering on my iDevices, even an old iPad Air, or in every iPhone 5S or later I have seen ....


You didn't prove the contrary, since I can't see any issue in the video above.


Yep, Metal isnt mature as of today. I'd give them time.
So I bet you dont see the lag here either huh?Its so bad the touch screen itself is not responding

 

Cakefish

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With the latest 9.2 beta my Air 2 is feeling so much smother and frame drop free. The music app is still absolute rubbish but the rest is getting very close to the 60fps experience I was looking for back when I bought it a couple months ago.

9.2 looks like it will be what 9.0 should have been all along.
 
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Max(IT)

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So I bet you dont see the lag here either huh?Its so bad the touch screen itself is not responding

So tired about those silly videos with people trying hard to mess up things like opening and closing the control center and pushing buttons randomly WHILE in the Siri page.
There is no reason in real life to do that.
 
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DoctorKrabs

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So tired about those silly videos with people trying hard to mess up things like opening and closing the control center and pushing buttons randomly WHILE in the Siri page.
There is no reason in real life to do that.
Which is exactly why it shouldn't be possible to do it even if you try.

Trying to do it in iOS 7 and 8 doesn't work because CC is disabled in Siri like it should be.
 

Jayson A

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So you like slow, one by one, app switching?

I like the slow app switcher, yes. It seems easier to use to me. In the normal app switcher, I constantly have to fight with the inertia scrolling as I try to stop the cards mid-scroll so I can tap on one... or hope that I tap the right one while they're moving. I like the one-by-one animation. It's almost like shuffling through a deck of cards. It just seems way more intuitive than having the cards zing by, by themselves. It's like someone having you choose a card while they're moving verses showing them to you in an orderly fashion.

Why does it matter to you anyway? It's a preference thing. I just like it better.

I wish I could have slow-app-switcher while also having animations on at the same time. That would ROCK.
 

madmad

macrumors newbie
Aug 22, 2015
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using 6S, 9.2 beta 4

20151129:

lags and stutters since 9.1... no matter how many restore i have done

and usually, the experience was that it was smooth at the beginning after restore, but would be getting more laggy along with usage... strange...

this morning, i signed out my iCloud on the 6S and chose to delete all contents. then i signed in again.

so far, the stutters cannot be found.

observation on-going......


20151201 experiment update:

it became buttery smooth until today. stutters and lag came back.

I just tried to do the same by signing out of iCloud without keeping any data in the phone then signed in again.

as the final trial before concluding anything for my stutter and lag case...
 

Radon87000

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20151201 experiment update:

it became buttery smooth until today. stutters and lag came back.

I just tried to do the same by signing out of iCloud without keeping any data in the phone then signed in again.

as the final trial before concluding anything for my stutter and lag case...
Turn on Reduce Transparency and Motion.You will stare at your iPhone with your mouth wide open looking at it zip along
 

Radon87000

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Nope sorry, not what you are implying. The rest of the world is not having the same issues as you.
Rest of the world are casual users.I am not.Same as how in Android 95% of the users who buy flagships dont care about updates and tinkering.The 5% who are enthusiasts buy the Nexus and slap in a Custom ROM the moment its delivered.
I know 15 iPhone users who dont even know how to navigate through the settings and refuse to update because they think it "Crashes" their iphone .On the other hand,I also know 2 users who (tired of the lags as I was) jailbreaked the iPhone to ramp up the animation speed to alleviate the issue
 
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