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Lol at samsung thinking that they have enough of a dedicated fanbase to introduce an incremental upgrade after all of the hype.

hehe, you're funny for: 1) Thinking Samsung doesn't have a dedicated fanbase. 2) Claiming Samsung had a incremental upgrade, when Apple does the same thing.


Everyone that I know that has a galaxy s3 would switch to another android phone in a heartbeat. Ball is in Apple's court now.

It's in their court to see what they're going to bring to the table with the iPhone 5S and iOS7.


I'll join ya :D

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Complete ******** coming from an Apple fanboy.

Funny isn't it? :D
 
Looks like quite a nice upgrade to me, but all in all I wouldn't use it much differently to the way I used my S3 when I had it. Most of the new features don't appeal to me. Smart scrolling will probably be quite handy if it works well.

Definitely skipping this one!
 
A much better camera, a much better battery, a much better 1080p display, tons of new software features. In a thinner, smaller, bezelless body. What else would make this a better device? :confused:
 
Phones are already really good and at a peek. Every upgrade will feel incremental since it's all about software now.
 
Phones are already really good and at a peek. Every upgrade will feel incremental since it's all about software now.

Here is the real issue. The performance of hardware has move beyond a point that most people need or want. I stress that is most people.

The S4 looks great and is head and shoulders above the HTC One. But the S4 is plastic. So I will probably opt for the HTC One.
 
This is clearly not an "S" upgrade as the form factor has changed. As others have said though, Samsung don't have a cult following so they may struggle for people wanting to upgrade. That does all depend how old phones handle newer OS's.

Oh and welcome to the Apple world of updates and the abuse that comes with it. Its not nice is it. :p
 
Have to agree 100% with you on this. With the S4 I think Samsung have really pushed the boat out on the innovation part. They are introducing new features, new ways of interacting with the phone and while some people may not use them, others will. Some of the features may not work perfectly all the time but I've no doubt they will in the end.

I also believe you'll start to see some of these new features appear in other (non Samsung) handsets before the end of the year. Some of them are really clever and you have to hand it to Samsung for at least trying to push the envelope.


If you'll see my posts in the other S4 threads, I'm not digging the S4. Hardly at all.

But how can anyone say Samsung isn't innovating? Whether you'll use it personally or not, they are introducing new things. Air Gesture? I mean, gimmicky or not (it is gimmicky) this is one of the first steps toward a gesture-based world.

Eye recognition software getting even better? Have you seen Minority Report? This is where it starts (for better or worse).

This is pushing and shaping the lanscape of technology. And they should be commended for trying, not berated for not making everything immediately useful.
 
This is clearly not an "S" upgrade as the form factor has changed. As others have said though, Samsung don't have a cult following so they may struggle for people wanting to upgrade. That does all depend how old phones handle newer OS's.

Oh and welcome to the Apple world of updates and the abuse that comes with it. Its not nice is it. :p

I agree with this. I think they are going to be hard pressed to get people using a s3 to upgrade. This will be good for people who can upgrade today and are thinking about leaving apple. I do not think it will break any kind of records. Also, a lot of the added features just seem more for "show" than actually being practical. The most practical one I saw was the camera add-ons, and the preview provided by air gestures (what the note 2 does). The other air gestures and built in features seem clunky (from the videos I have seen) and more of a burden to try to incorporate. I see lots of bloatware with this phone
 
Lol at samsung thinking that they have enough of a dedicated fanbase to introduce an incremental upgrade after all of the hype.

The same can be said for the iPhone 4s and the soon to be iPhone 5s where the update will be rather minor.
 
i think apple are going to sue samsung again.. for their new feature controlled by sight called "eye phone".
 
While I would hardly call it DOA, I did expect Samsung to go for the jugular and unleash something with a huge WOW factor. Did we get it? No. Is the S4 still going to be a huge hit? Oh yeah.
 
Larger screen, thinner and smaller bezels, with better materials. Sounds like a new design to me.

Well thats the iphone 5 and everyone said it wasn't a new design,thats the double standard that goes between iPhones and galaxy S. If this is considered a new design then the iPhone 5 is a new design,simples as that.
 
A much better camera, a much better battery, a much better 1080p display, tons of new software features. In a thinner, smaller, bezelless body. What else would make this a better device? :confused:

I agree, everything is upgraded, even the points most people complained about, the camera and screen. Tons of new features, even if you think it's gimmicky it's still there for people to either use or turn off.

Sounds mundane but a feature I think is long overdue is you can use the phone now with gloves on. A lot of people, most everyone will benefit from this alone.
 
If you'll see my posts in the other S4 threads, I'm not digging the S4. Hardly at all.

But how can anyone say Samsung isn't innovating? Whether you'll use it personally or not, they are introducing new things. Air Gesture? I mean, gimmicky or not (it is gimmicky) this is one of the first steps toward a gesture-based world.

Eye recognition software getting even better? Have you seen Minority Report? This is where it starts (for better or worse).

This is pushing and shaping the lanscape of technology. And they should be commended for trying, not berated for not making everything immediately useful.

I had Samsung's top-of-the-line E8000 plasma last year (which I returned for a Panasonic GT50). This came with hand gestures and voice control. The TV was good (although inferior in black levels to the Panasonic) but the hand gestures and voice control were a complete joke. Complete gimmicks which worked really poorly by all who tried it (For the hang of it I tried mine for about 15 minutes).
 
I had Samsung's top-of-the-line E8000 plasma last year (which I returned for a Panasonic GT50). This came with hand gestures and voice control. The TV was good (although inferior in black levels to the Panasonic) but the hand gestures and voice control were a complete joke. Complete gimmicks which worked really poorly by all who tried it (For the hang of it I tried mine for about 15 minutes).

Baby steps toward the future.

When any company (Apple or Samsung) is pushing relatively new technology, there will be missteps and tumbles. That's the nature of the game.

I, of course, have no idea how S4's new features will work, if at all. But Samsung is trying, and that's what I'm giving them credit for.

**Again, if you follow my recent posts, I am really turned off by the S4, and am actually thinking of going back to the iPhone.
 
Have fun using your finger print scanner on the 5s

the finger print scanner will probably have the purpose to confirm your identity whenever a paying system is issued, you know by using sensitive information like credit card? SSN? things like that, I'd feel more secure with something like this. that is no gimmick.

Apple might implement it to unlock the phone as well, which yeah could be a gimmick but a good useful one, that we will all probably USE everyday.
 
Apple might implement it to unlock the phone as well, which yeah could be a gimmick but a good useful one, that we will all probably USE everyday.

What are your thoughts on Face unlock, which works incredibly fast, reliably, and well on the Nexus 4 even when it's dark (not pitch black, of course)?
 
What are your thoughts on Face unlock, which works incredibly fast, reliably, and well on the Nexus 4 even when it's dark (not pitch black, of course)?

Face unlock is less secure than a passcode....

A fingerprint scanner could have more uses than simply unlocking the phone. Think each finger has a set function - scan my ring finger to call my wife for instance.....

That may be a stretch, but there are other possibilities we aren't thinking of....

And that's my definition of "innovation". Gimmicks are features few people will ACTUALLY use on a regular basis. Innovation is something that forever changes how we do things....

So far I have yet to see ANY innovations from Samsung....all this air gesture stuff has been around - throwing it in a phone isn't innovative...just more bloat-ware IMO.

Really looking to see if the HTC One can win me over or if I'll be waiting on Google to release their next Nexus/ Moto Phone X.
 
The battery life looks set to be vastly improved all while making the phone thinner and you're asking for a redesign well your priorities certainly differ from mine.

My iphone 4's battery life is better than the 5 so hardly an improvement in fact a step backwards.

If only that were true. Did they mention battery life estimates, or are you just guessing because the battery capacity is a bigger number?

They didn't mention how many hours it would be expected to last - I wonder if that could be down to the fact it has double the RAM and double the processor cores that it needs that extra power just to stay alive?

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What are your thoughts on Face unlock, which works incredibly fast, reliably, and well on the Nexus 4 even when it's dark (not pitch black, of course)?

Are we using the same Nexus 4? In my experience of Face Unlock it is slow, unreliable, and it's amazing if it works in anything other than bright sunlight.
 
I had Samsung's top-of-the-line E8000 plasma last year (which I returned for a Panasonic GT50). This came with hand gestures and voice control. The TV was good (although inferior in black levels to the Panasonic) but the hand gestures and voice control were a complete joke. Complete gimmicks which worked really poorly by all who tried it (For the hang of it I tried mine for about 15 minutes).

The problem is that the next big thing (for smartphones) will be something like complete smooth and fluent gesture control, no buttons, not on screen, not physical, not capacitive. I can see Apple, for example, leading the way by throwing their customers in the water w/ something like this. Therefore, the next big feature in any smartphone is really something you can't get away without using.
 
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