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The Galaxy S4 is dead on Arrival
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hehe, you're funny for: 1) Thinking Samsung doesn't have a dedicated fanbase. 2) Claiming Samsung had a incremental upgrade, when Apple does the same thing.
It's in their court to see what they're going to bring to the table with the iPhone 5S and iOS7.
I'll join ya
Funny isn't it?
Looks like quite a nice upgrade to me, but all in all I wouldn't use it much differently to the way I used my S3 when I had it. Most of the new features don't appeal to me. Smart scrolling will probably be quite handy if it works well.
Definitely skipping this one!
Definitely skipping this one!
A much better camera, a much better battery, a much better 1080p display, tons of new software features. In a thinner, smaller, bezelless body. What else would make this a better device?
Phones are already really good and at a peek. Every upgrade will feel incremental since it's all about software now.
Here is the real issue. The performance of hardware has move beyond a point that most people need or want. I stress that is most people.
The S4 looks great and is head and shoulders above the HTC One. But the S4 is plastic. So I will probably opt for the HTC One.
This is clearly not an "S" upgrade as the form factor has changed. As others have said though, Samsung don't have a cult following so they may struggle for people wanting to upgrade. That does all depend how old phones handle newer OS's.
Oh and welcome to the Apple world of updates and the abuse that comes with it. Its not nice is it.
Oh and welcome to the Apple world of updates and the abuse that comes with it. Its not nice is it.
Have to agree 100% with you on this. With the S4 I think Samsung have really pushed the boat out on the innovation part. They are introducing new features, new ways of interacting with the phone and while some people may not use them, others will. Some of the features may not work perfectly all the time but I've no doubt they will in the end.
I also believe you'll start to see some of these new features appear in other (non Samsung) handsets before the end of the year. Some of them are really clever and you have to hand it to Samsung for at least trying to push the envelope.
I also believe you'll start to see some of these new features appear in other (non Samsung) handsets before the end of the year. Some of them are really clever and you have to hand it to Samsung for at least trying to push the envelope.
This is clearly not an "S" upgrade as the form factor has changed. As others have said though, Samsung don't have a cult following so they may struggle for people wanting to upgrade. That does all depend how old phones handle newer OS's.
Oh and welcome to the Apple world of updates and the abuse that comes with it. Its not nice is it.
I agree with this. I think they are going to be hard pressed to get people using a s3 to upgrade. This will be good for people who can upgrade today and are thinking about leaving apple. I do not think it will break any kind of records. Also, a lot of the added features just seem more for "show" than actually being practical. The most practical one I saw was the camera add-ons, and the preview provided by air gestures (what the note 2 does). The other air gestures and built in features seem clunky (from the videos I have seen) and more of a burden to try to incorporate. I see lots of bloatware with this phone
The same can be said for the iPhone 4s and the soon to be iPhone 5s where the update will be rather minor.
Goodness, how many times we've read this upon most every phone release in the past - and how few times this ever pans out to have any iota of truth whatsoever!
5 inch brick? Ahh well more laughs for me on the train.
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There are plenty of new and innovative features in the S4. It's not likely to have S3 owners, most of whom are locked in for another year, crying into their beer, but it's going to be an amazing upgrade for S2 owners and a credible answer to the "Pure Google" of the Nexus.
You got that joke off the writers of last nights SGS4 reveal fiasco. It's as equally as funny... and by that I mean
Well thats the iphone 5 and everyone said it wasn't a new design,thats the double standard that goes between iPhones and galaxy S. If this is considered a new design then the iPhone 5 is a new design,simples as that.
A much better camera, a much better battery, a much better 1080p display, tons of new software features. In a thinner, smaller, bezelless body. What else would make this a better device?
I agree, everything is upgraded, even the points most people complained about, the camera and screen. Tons of new features, even if you think it's gimmicky it's still there for people to either use or turn off.
Sounds mundane but a feature I think is long overdue is you can use the phone now with gloves on. A lot of people, most everyone will benefit from this alone.
I had Samsung's top-of-the-line E8000 plasma last year (which I returned for a Panasonic GT50). This came with hand gestures and voice control. The TV was good (although inferior in black levels to the Panasonic) but the hand gestures and voice control were a complete joke. Complete gimmicks which worked really poorly by all who tried it (For the hang of it I tried mine for about 15 minutes).
Baby steps toward the future.
When any company (Apple or Samsung) is pushing relatively new technology, there will be missteps and tumbles. That's the nature of the game.
I, of course, have no idea how S4's new features will work, if at all. But Samsung is trying, and that's what I'm giving them credit for.
**Again, if you follow my recent posts, I am really turned off by the S4, and am actually thinking of going back to the iPhone.
the finger print scanner will probably have the purpose to confirm your identity whenever a paying system is issued, you know by using sensitive information like credit card? SSN? things like that, I'd feel more secure with something like this. that is no gimmick.
Apple might implement it to unlock the phone as well, which yeah could be a gimmick but a good useful one, that we will all probably USE everyday.
What are your thoughts on Face unlock, which works incredibly fast, reliably, and well on the Nexus 4 even when it's dark (not pitch black, of course)?
Face unlock is less secure than a passcode....
A fingerprint scanner could have more uses than simply unlocking the phone. Think each finger has a set function - scan my ring finger to call my wife for instance.....
That may be a stretch, but there are other possibilities we aren't thinking of....
And that's my definition of "innovation". Gimmicks are features few people will ACTUALLY use on a regular basis. Innovation is something that forever changes how we do things....
So far I have yet to see ANY innovations from Samsung....all this air gesture stuff has been around - throwing it in a phone isn't innovative...just more bloat-ware IMO.
Really looking to see if the HTC One can win me over or if I'll be waiting on Google to release their next Nexus/ Moto Phone X.
If only that were true. Did they mention battery life estimates, or are you just guessing because the battery capacity is a bigger number?
They didn't mention how many hours it would be expected to last - I wonder if that could be down to the fact it has double the RAM and double the processor cores that it needs that extra power just to stay alive?
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Are we using the same Nexus 4? In my experience of Face Unlock it is slow, unreliable, and it's amazing if it works in anything other than bright sunlight.
The problem is that the next big thing (for smartphones) will be something like complete smooth and fluent gesture control, no buttons, not on screen, not physical, not capacitive. I can see Apple, for example, leading the way by throwing their customers in the water w/ something like this. Therefore, the next big feature in any smartphone is really something you can't get away without using.