The Galaxy S4 is dead on Arrival

[Zaft]

I always hear about crappy home buttons but have never - in any iPhone I've owned or my family members have owned (roughly 25-30 phones, not a large sample but still) - experienced any issue with a home button.

Do people push these things hard or something? I personally like the home button - makes it easier to pop the screen on and off when the phone is lying on a desk without having to reach on the side....that said, if they added some functionality I wouldn't be opposed to losing the physical button in favor a capacitive fingerprint reader.

It's a FACT that all iphones before the 5 have plastic/rubber brackets for the homebutton. That in turn makes them loose and less sensitive the more you push it. Every iphone i have had, and everyone I know that has an iphone has had this issue. The 5 has a metal bracket which is MUCH stronger.

 

[grkm3]

the finger print scanner will probably have the purpose to confirm your identity whenever a paying system is issued, you know by using sensitive information like credit card? SSN? things like that, I'd feel more secure with something like this. that is no gimmick.

Apple might implement it to unlock the phone as well, which yeah could be a gimmick but a good useful one, that we will all probably USE everyday.

I rather have my credit card numbers transferred over a secure NFC connection and if you think credit card companies will ever allow personal info and use of transfers threw finger print I don't know what to tell you.that will never happen as it would turn into a mess and the though of someone stealing your print from a machine and cloning it scrares the hell out of me.

Would you put your life savings and all your cards and accounts linked to your finger print? Think about that and then think about using secured encrypted NFC transfers holing your bank card numbers.its a lot more secure thee having your numbers printed right on the card the way they are now.

I just bought a pair of Jordan's this week and used NFC wallet to pay and it was the coolest thing just tapping my cell to the device.

 

[jrswizzle]

It's a FACT that all iphones before the 5 have plastic/rubber brackets for the homebutton. That in turn makes them loose and less sensitive the more you push it. Every iphone i have had, and everyone I know that has an iphone has had this issue. The 5 has a metal bracket which is MUCH stronger.

Huh - interesting. Guess I never had one long enough for this to happen, seeing as I pretty much have upgraded every year since the 3GS....

 

[dkersten]

Your the biggest Apple hater on these forums, why do you even bother to post or come here?

And rightfully so, Apple will continue to litigate as long as Samsung and these other companies continue to copy Apple

Just in case you are having trouble locating your sub forum again:


At least Tinmania doesn't try to troll in the iPhone forum...

And besides, Samsung can't copy features and hardware Apple doesn't even have. Tell me again? How is your notification center working out? But thats not copying is it because Apple "perfected" it, didn't they

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I always hear about crappy home buttons but have never - in any iPhone I've owned or my family members have owned (roughly 25-30 phones, not a large sample but still) - experienced any issue with a home button.

Do people push these things hard or something? I personally like the home button - makes it easier to pop the screen on and off when the phone is lying on a desk without having to reach on the side....that said, if they added some functionality I wouldn't be opposed to losing the physical button in favor a capacitive fingerprint reader.

Personally, I've never had a problem with the home button. However I've had problems with the power button on two iPhone 4's. Agreed though. The home button was never a problem for me or anyone else I knew. I like physical home buttons anyways.

 

[Zaft]

Huh - interesting. Guess I never had one long enough for this to happen, seeing as I pretty much have upgraded every year since the 3GS....

Maybe you dont notice it?

Anyway its now been fixed with the iphone 5. The Ipads have always had the metal bracket. Not that it matters, i use gestures on my ipad.

 

[jrswizzle]

Maybe you dont notice it?

Anyway its now been fixed with the iphone 5. The Ipads have always had the metal bracket. Not that it matters, i use gestures on my ipad.

Me too - much better. I hope they implement some gestures on the iPhone as well....obviously no "4-finger" gestures, but some simple ones would be nice.

 

[TheHateMachine]

Huh - interesting. Guess I never had one long enough for this to happen, seeing as I pretty much have upgraded every year since the 3GS....

I've fixed my fair share of iPhones/iPods and honestly never saw many home buttons come across my desk. When I did, typically the phone were so thrashed that it boggled me how it even worked in the first place.

 

[daveathall]

I must admit that I have never had a problem with the home button on any of the Apple devices that I have owned.

 

[LSUtigers03]

Me too - much better. I hope they implement some gestures on the iPhone as well....obviously no "4-finger" gestures, but some simple ones would be nice.

It would be great if they implemented the functionality zephyr provides.

 

[TheHateMachine]

it is a gimmick just like fingerprint scan would be. face detection I think is a feature made just for the sake of doing it, it is not really innovative or mindblowing, it didn't take the world by surprise when it launched believe me..

I believe face unlock is less secure and accurate than fingerprint unlock, plus it takes more time to access it and get pass the lock screen compared to a possibly-apple quick finger print scan.

time is important, if it takes too much you know you're going to disable the hell out of it and keep the regular unlock feature...

If the fingerprint scan comes on an iDevice I do not think it is going to get nearly as good as what you would find in a $500+ real security scanner. I've worked at a place that have used the finger print readers that sit around 200 bucks and chances are there are a few people that work with you who could punch in your code and trip your time punch with their finger.

Also Face Unlock can be configured to require a blink. Not saying it isn't a gimmick but it can be fairly secure... now if you agree to let someone record a direct video of you blinking then worrying about someone accessing your Face Unlock protected phone you might have other issues.

 

[apollo1444]

I rather have my credit card numbers transferred over a secure NFC connection and if you think credit card companies will ever allow personal info and use of transfers threw finger print I don't know what to tell you.that will never happen as it would turn into a mess and the though of someone stealing your print from a machine and cloning it scrares the hell out of me.

Would you put your life savings and all your cards and accounts linked to your finger print? Think about that and then think about using secured encrypted NFC transfers holing your bank card numbers.its a lot more secure thee having your numbers printed right on the card the way they are now.

I just bought a pair of Jordan's this week and used NFC wallet to pay and it was the coolest thing just tapping my cell to the device.

it will probably use both security layers the NFC and the and the finger print not just one... I'd take iOS take on the NFC and fingerprint security than NFC + android malware bonanza

 

[Essenar]

Say that again after it sells 120 million units.

 

[jeepik]

Having the note 2 and its features i can tell you that for most these new features are useless..like who uses the stock samsung browser..everyone uses chrome and most of these new features wont work on the chrome


Sometimes using your fingers is the best way to do it..the hovering option. Is pointless, the pause to loom away is also pointless. That and nothing works when watching movies or using your phone in total darkness like in bed..

I do like the design of the phone and the camera

 

[OceanView]

What features would the 5S be missing? All this "air" stuff is gimmicky at best...i had a S3 and the "smart" features on there barely worked, the palm swipe to capture a screen shot was a joke and all the other features were half baked.

Nfc/finger print scanner on home button can have the potential to drastically change the smartphone landscape alone, i have 10% confidence iOS 7 will be a fantastic OS update

The Apple A7 chip will be faster then a Qualcomm S800 or just as fast, with better effiecency, trust me on that

I'm not even talking about the software stuff.
Just look at the hardware specs.
1.9GHZ Quad Core vs 1GHZ Dual Core
2GB RAM vs 1 GB
Screen size and DPI are both better on the S4
Camera Resolution 12MP vs 8MP
Video Resolution 1080p vs 720p
Battery 2600mA vs ?

So you think the iP5 is still better?

 

[grkm3]

it will probably use both security layers the NFC and the and the finger print not just one... I'd take iOS take on the NFC and fingerprint security than NFC + android malware bonanza

You do know the us government is using a secure android platform right and it has trickled down to the gs4 with there Knox implement for secure encrypted data.

 

[tjl3]

I'm not even talking about the software stuff.
Just look at the hardware specs.
1.9GHZ Quad Core vs 1GHZ Dual Core
2GB RAM vs 1 GB
Screen size and DPI are both better on the S4
Camera Resolution 12MP vs 8MP
Video Resolution 1080p vs 720p
Battery 2600mA vs ?

So you think the iP5 is still better?

yes.

 

[Essenar]

I'm not even talking about the software stuff.
Just look at the hardware specs.
1.9GHZ Quad Core vs 1GHZ Dual Core
2GB RAM vs 1 GB
Screen size and DPI are both better on the S4
Camera Resolution 12MP vs 8MP
Video Resolution 1080p vs 720p
Battery 2600mA vs ?

So you think the iP5 is still better?

At this point, comparing the iP5 to the Galaxy anything is not even a smart comparison. And I'm not saying the Galaxy is better. I'm saying that people have decided by this point whether they're camp iPhone or camp Android. The only people the comparison matters for are people barely jumping into the "flagship smartphone" category.

Almost everyone has a smartphone and the only difference is some people got the "free" or $50 smartphones and might jump to the bigger devices when they can afford them.

 

[matttye]

I'm not even talking about the software stuff.
Just look at the hardware specs.
1.9GHZ Quad Core vs 1GHZ Dual Core
2GB RAM vs 1 GB
Screen size and DPI are both better on the S4
Camera Resolution 12MP vs 8MP
Video Resolution 1080p vs 720p
Battery 2600mA vs ?

So you think the iP5 is still better?

Video recording resolution on iPhone 5 is 1080p, FaceTime is 720p. Not sure if you meant video record or chat when you said 'video resolution' so just thought I'd point that out.

More megapixels does not equal better photos.

Comparing the specs is pointless when each one runs a different OS. iOS is obviously lighter on resources than Android as it doesn't have as many things going on at the same time.

 

[Bahroo]

You're delusional if you think the iPhone 5S will have all those features.
They won't even catch up to what the S4 will have.
If Apple was smart, they would scrap the plans for the 5S and focus on a completely new phone for the iP6.

Have what? Better, typical upgraded specs?

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Considering Apple has not once made a home button for the iPhone that didn't suck, I have zero faith they could actually add functions to it without it being a disaster. That thing has needed to go for years. Such a huge turn off functionally and aesthetically.

Also, 10% doesn't sound like much.

Clearly ment 100%

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I'm not even talking about the software stuff.
Just look at the hardware specs.
1.9GHZ Quad Core vs 1GHZ Dual Core
2GB RAM vs 1 GB
Screen size and DPI are both better on the S4
Camera Resolution 12MP vs 8MP
Video Resolution 1080p vs 720p
Battery 2600mA vs ?

So you think the iP5 is still better?

Battery size is unrelative, its powering a much bigger screen with higher performance parts, the dual core clocked in the i5 is 1.3 ghz...and the i5 records in 1080p, not 720p...

 

[Essenar]

I feel like at this point, we're reaching the stage in the game where Android and iOS is like Windows and OSX. No matter what you get, you'll be satisfied if it's what you're comfortable with.

2011/2012 was the last years where "revolutionary" changes were made.

And just like the MacBook, the OS hasn't changed much in the last couple of years so people who stick with one side are sticking with what's comfortable to them.

 

[damitssam]

Love my Nokia 920, only thing is windows 8 sucks dick.

Someone needs to copy Nokia's Design with bright colors instead of the same old boring crap.

HTC One is a start, but HTC has horrible support for its phones.

Look at the Nokia vs HTC for Windows 8. Nokia keeps releasing apps, HTC just sucks.

 

[TheMTtakeover]

Keep dreaming.

Apple is no longer innovating and is losing its luster ever since the iPhone 5 was released. If anything will be dead in the water it will be the 5S, if they have the nerve to release such a thing.

Apple will go back to what it is becoming infamous for: litigating. Yay.





Michael

I get that you don't like Apple but, your repetitive posts constantly down talking apple and its products are becoming excessive.

 

[hyteckit]

It's a FACT that all iphones before the 5 have plastic/rubber brackets for the homebutton. That in turn makes them loose and less sensitive the more you push it. Every iphone i have had, and everyone I know that has an iphone has had this issue. The 5 has a metal bracket which is MUCH stronger.

I don't know a single person who had problems with their homebutton. I myself own every iPhone except for the iPhone 5.

I use the homebutton a few dozen times a day for Siri and app switching. Not a single problem with the homebutton.

Isn't the repair rate for the iPhone the lowest in the smartphone industry?

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I get that you don't like Apple but, your repetitive posts constantly down talking apple and its products are becoming excessive.

Tinmania is trolling again. It's obvious.

I called him out a few times. He got the mods to ban me.

 

[F123D]

I don't know a single person who had problems with their homebutton. I myself own every iPhone except for the iPhone 5.

I use the homebutton a few dozen times a day for Siri and app switching. Not a single problem with the homebutton.

Isn't the repair rate for the iPhone the lowest in the smartphone industry?

I've had issues with my home button not registering and always thought it was because I was jailbroken. After restoring back to stock, I still had the same issues.

Where's the data coming from regarding repairs? I'm guessing since you can just swap your phone at apple if there's an issue, the repair rate wouldn't be as high (although that's a positive for iPhones being able to take directly into a store.)

 

[Tech198]

Incremental in what sense of the word? The bump in specs makes the iphone 5 look like a 4SS in comparison.

very good .....

Lets all move slowly, because Apple's doing it, we can do it to.

But you'r right there...


Incremental all the way. Its a pity...