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motegi said:
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Preparing for Shipment
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After seeing this I checked mine and it has also moved to preparing to ship. Could have happened last night but first I saw it was today so added it as the 29th. Might still ship in Jan.

I'm not getting too excited yet though, it was 10 days between authorisation payment and preparing to ship. Plus I don't even have a monitor to plug it in to!
 
Dranix said:
I'm just pissed that they waste 7h to do in-US transfers. But from what I read this appears to be normal in the US for postal.

To think I'm getting angry at DHL for taking longer then 1-2 days here in Europe. But we have regional hubs, not insane central ones. I just add it to my americans are odd list :p
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there's DHL and then there's DHL Express. the latter operates more similarly to UPS. every time i am shipped something from europe DHL Express it winds up going through a central hub.

anyway, whether one has regional or central hubs, there are multi-hour delays between hand-offs. nothing is handed off instantly.

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Woof! said:
Actually, we have regional hubs. It looks like Europe is the one with an insane central hub:

Air Hubs:
United States: Louisville, KY (Main Global Air Hub); Philadelphia, PA; Dallas, TX; Ontario, CA; Rockford, IL; Columbia, SC
Europe: Cologne/Bonn, Germany
Asia Pacific: Shanghai; Shenzhen; Hong Kong
Latin America and Caribbean: Miami, FL, USA
Canada: Hamilton, Ontario
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yes, this is correct, but pretty much all UPS int'l air packages go through louisville.
 
analog guy said:
there's DHL and then there's DHL Express. the latter operates more similarly to UPS. every time i am shipped something from europe DHL Express it winds up going through a central hub.
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Yeah, it's probably that DHL in Germany is more 2 parts. The Ex DHL courier and the package part of the german postal service. I'm just used to next day delivery from german vendors ;)

Edit:
Newark, NJ, United States 28.01.2014 17:20 Arrival Scan
Louisville, KY, United States 28.01.2014 15:36 Departure Scan

What the "&§( is now Newark? Does my stuff sometime get on a plane to Europe?
 
PPOP said:
Same day shipping?!!
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My case was same day shipping.

I confirmed that my status was still "Prepare for shipping" just before I saw the email shipping notification from Apple Store. But the time that notification came was just 3 minutes before I received the nMP.

I found that my nMP arrived to Japan the late afternoon of Monday, apple store updated the status and send me email Tuesday morning about the same time the nMP actually delivered.
So, the response time which Apple Store updates the status is about same to the time which domestic transportation company requires to transport the fiscal package.
 
AJClayton said:
Photo or we don't believe you ;)
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After a month with mine I strongly advise anyone ordering one not to buy the 250 GB basic boot drive. Yes I should have known better. I've offloaded all data aside from my iPhoto library and it's a struggle to keep some room on the drive. But I didn't want to wait for a BTO...
 
paulsdenton said:
After a month with mine I strongly advise anyone ordering one not to buy the 250 GB basic boot drive. Yes I should have known better. I've offloaded all data aside from my iPhoto library and it's a struggle to keep some room on the drive. But I didn't want to wait for a BTO...
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He is definitely on the mark. While still waiting for being able to order an nMP from the online store, I acquired two Akitio thunderbolt enclosures (one has two thunderbolt ports and the other has one thunderbolt port and one USB 3.0 port). I put two 256 GB SSDs into one and two HDDs into the other (Later on I may made them Raid0, respectively). I then tested the read/write speed of the enclosures on my late 2013 27" iMac. My experience is:

While an SSD was nearly empty, it gave an astonishing read/write speed. After I copied approximately 200 GB stuff onto an SSD, its read/write speed became something like 20-30 MB/s.

This experience helped me make the decision on a 1 TB internal SSD when I placed my order for an nMP.

Can someone on this forum perform a research on how the read/write speed of an SSD is affected by its available capacity? A curve of the read/write speed as a function of the available capacity will be highly desired.
 
FrankHahn said:
Can someone on this forum perform a research on how the read/write speed of an SSD is affected by its available capacity? A curve of the read/write speed as a function of the available capacity will be highly desired.
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The answer is a bit complicated, but to summarize, each memory location inside an SSD has a lifespan of x writes. Lower cost SSDs can only handle 5000 or so cycles... Higher priced SSDs may have as many as 100,000 cycles.

To compensate for this, the controllers spread writes among empty space as much as possible so that no individual cell runs out of cycles. To avoid losing data from a cell that's been exhausted, there are actually spares, but the key is if you have lots of data and lots of space, you won't exhaust the cells because the chances of re-writing the same cell are pretty slim... unless you are near capacity. Then, those cells get written and re-written over and over. As they do this they may need to retry multiple times to get the data... slowing it down. Don't worry, when a cell starts to "die", it's moved to a spare.

To compensate for this, the controller could move a cell that has been only written a handful of times to one that has been written a lot. Until controllers do this efficiently, you could accomplish this by periodically backing up, then restoring. You'll still have the same amount of space, but some of the cells will be moved to fresh cells that were not re-written too many times.

The cool thing is cells are not necessarily sequential and they can be re-assigned on the fly, so they spread out nicely to avoid re-writing if you modify the same files every day.
 
What he said. From my personal research, I keep SSD below an 80% utilization rate, of course this was from a while ago for 128 and 256GB drives, milage may varies for the giant 512 and TB drives. If you're at 200/238, major slow down is not suprising.
 
Although CouponPages did not answer directly my question, his reply is an excellent edification on the working mechanism of an SSD.

While a curve alluded to by me in my previous post is being obtained, a cell may accumulate a few write cycles with the number of the cycles depending on the number of the data points collected.

We may start from a near-full SSD and then remove a small amount of data at a time till all the data are removed.

Because the benchmarking tool also writes data onto the disk and then deletes them from the SSD, making such a curve may accumulate many write cycles for cells on an SSD.

This has diverted from the main theme of the thread. Back to the main theme, I am eagerly waiting for the shipment of my nMP in February.
 
FrankHahn said:
Although CouponPages did not answer directly my question, his reply is an excellent edification on the working mechanism of an SSD.

While a curve alluded to by me in my previous post is being obtained, a cell may accumulate a few write cycles with the number of the cycles depending on the number of the data points collected.
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My answer was from memory, not research. There is no way to plot speed changes based upon the percentage of available space, because there is no decrease in speed due to the lack of space itself.

The decrease in speed is because of the wear level on the cells. The older an SSD is, the more cells have exhausted their lifespan. As a drive fills up, those cells that have had the same data on them since day one may in fact be on their 1st cycle, but since the last x% have been re-used over and over, many of those cells are close to their end of life.

The best way to demonstrate it would be to say that if you took a brand new drive out of the box... installed the O/S then benchmarked it with 10% used, then arbitrarily filled it with another 75% of dummy data, the speed would likely be identical. But, if you leave the drive at 85% capacity, the remaining 15% will be the only part of the drive that gets constant use, instead of spreading the write cycles to fresh cells.

As such the cells in that 15% would become the slower ones... one cool thing, if you then removed the 75% dummy data, the drive would be fast again. Even more interesting, put the 75% dummy data back... it's still fast because some of the remaining 15% are in fact cells only on their second write... but in time, if you keep this 85% capacity, those 15% cells would wear down too.

That's why I suggested a periodic backup and restore as a short term remedy. It's like shuffling the deck.
 
This time you got my point. I have been thinking of such a curve:

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Really happy for you Scissors and AJClayton! good to see some UK orders on the move. Will the the turn of us Feb guys soon, but no doubt this thread will turn into a tumble weed as all you Jan guys disappear to play with your shiny toys ;)
 
firstofnine said:
Hey Dranix, it seems as if our two nMPs are travelling together!
Austin/Texas, Louisville, Newark, Philly??
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Yeah it appears so. Munich and Frankfurt aren't so much away from each other ;)

But I'm so angry that I wrote a mail to Tim Cook because of that sick pollution to the environment.
 
razer said:
Really happy for you Scissors and AJClayton! good to see some UK orders on the move. Will the the turn of us Feb guys soon, but no doubt this thread will turn into a tumble weed as all you Jan guys disappear to play with your shiny toys ;)
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No move on my order yet, razer. Still waiting. Thanks for the good wishes, though. I'm supposed to get a definite date off Apple this morning (although there's only an hour and a half of the morning left, so we'll see about that).

Hope the experience of February people like yourself isn't so traumatic!!

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motegi said:
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Hahahahaha. OK. I believe you! :D

Is that on the floor? Make sure you don't start chucking rubbish into it. ;)
 
Mine is in February. If it is not shipped within the first week of February, I will certainly cancel my order to avoid the anxiety of waiting so that I can concentrate on my work and live a healthier life. If I have to cancel my order, I will reorder an nMP when it is ready to be shipped within 24 hours or within a few days.

Therefore, my anxious waiting for this nMP will be definitely over by February 7, 2014.
 
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