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AtheistP3ace

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Ooooooooooo :)
 

Sweetheart777

macrumors newbie
Jun 11, 2017
15
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Yeah, you might as well go full. Let's see, current M1 Pro/Max MacBooks were already delayed months before because of the logistical issues dealing with covid related component shortages, in addition to China's Zero Covid policy preventing factories from operating at full capacity. So now I guess Apple can magically spin up new factories with all new manufacturing processes at-will, to produce an entirely new MacBook when they currently lack the manufacturing output to meet the demand of the current MacBook /s :rolleyes:. Make it make sense.
Going full stupid May have paid off! My laptop shipped and should arrive on June 6th! Now, if they announce the M2 MBP, I guess I can sell this one still in box. But I’m hoping any announcement of an M2 16” MacBook Pro will be for delivery next year.

Shanghai is under COVID lockdown, but TSMC is still running. It’s possible they can just toss the new SoC into the same shell.

Thanks for being a sounding board.
 

Sweetheart777

macrumors newbie
Jun 11, 2017
15
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Going full stupid May have paid off! My laptop shipped and should arrive on June 6th! Now, if they announce the M2 MBP, I guess I can sell this one still in box. But I’m hoping any announcement of an M2 16” MacBook Pro will be for delivery next year.

Shanghai is under COVID lockdown, but TSMC is still running. It’s possible they can just toss the new SoC into the same shell.

Thanks for being a sounding board.
 

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unlimitedx0

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Nov 18, 2014
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I have 16" MBP in Space Gray that I want to exchange for Silver. I've been checking Best Buy's website regularly. I noticed that for past week, they're Sold Out of their various 16" MBP configurations. I just checked Apple - 16 GB RAM, 512 GB SSD model, delivery shows Jul 18 - Aug 1.

Is the limited inventory of 'stock configurations' a result of the lockdowns, or is it possible there could be a new 16" released next month?
 

skodises

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Jan 9, 2021
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Just migrated from my ancient 2010 13" 2.4GHz Duo MBP to a brand-new 16GB/1TB 14" M1 Macbook Pro (the Denver Apple store had them in stock).

I use it for CAD work in addition to the usual laptop chores. So I immediately upgraded to Parallels Version 17.1.0 (51516), installed the W11 for Arm from the Windows Insider Program Windows11_InsiderPreview_Client_ARM64_en-us_22598. I then installed Altium Designer (fairly sophisticated/heavyweight Electronic CAD S/W), and It Just Worked.

It works remarkably well with no hassles whatsoever- it is almost as if it is intended to be a product one day! Total time to get the installation running: 2 hours, mostly download time. Who knew? Here's an existence proof: this pretty beefy Wintel CAD S/W can be made to work on M1/Parallels.

I can't comment on the performance on any absolute scale. The raw machine hauls ass by comparison, of course. Performance of the Wintel stuff under Parallels is more than adequate for my needs. For me, the fact that it works at all without having to sacrifice a chicken is wonderful, and the fact that it is *at least an order of magnitude* faster than W10/Parallels on my old 2010 2.4GHz MBP is icing on a very grateful cake. YMMV, of course. So that's my current story. I'm still gonna keep Ol' Paint around, though.
 
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chikorita157

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Mar 8, 2019
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I have 16" MBP in Space Gray that I want to exchange for Silver. I've been checking Best Buy's website regularly. I noticed that for past week, they're Sold Out of their various 16" MBP configurations. I just checked Apple - 16 GB RAM, 512 GB SSD model, delivery shows Jul 18 - Aug 1.

Is the limited inventory of 'stock configurations' a result of the lockdowns, or is it possible there could be a new 16" released next month?
Mostly lockdowns if you haven’t caught up with the news lately. It seems that the supply of base model Macbook Pros, both 14 and 16 inch are dwindling. BTO delivery times are worse. I got my BTO 16” with 32 GB of RAM in November last year


I ended up getting a Macbook Pro 16” base model for my sister a few weeks ago as a graduation present since her laptop is almost getting close to 10 years old from Costco in Delaware and they seem readily available. Costco and and BH has stock available.
 

unlimitedx0

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Nov 18, 2014
59
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Mostly lockdowns if you haven’t caught up with the news lately. It seems that the supply of base model Macbook Pros, both 14 and 16 inch are dwindling. BTO delivery times are worse.
Thanks for info. I thought most of the delays were for BTO/custom configs. I didn't realize the full extent of the delays. I'm surprised Costco has most of the base configs in stock. I missed the Costco offer from a week ago when the 16" 512 GB was $200 off.
 

Sweetheart777

macrumors newbie
Jun 11, 2017
15
10
My 16” MBP is sitting in Memphis, TN according to FedEx for arrival on June 1st. It looks like the M2 MacBook Pro has been delayed until mid-2023, and may be a slightly modified M1 anyhow. Even the iPhone 14 is getting a stopgap processor instead of what Apple intended to ship.

soooo glad I didn’t cancel my order. The true m2 16” MBP is likely slipping to early 2024, and may be called an M3.
 
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OW22

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Sep 3, 2006
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Forbes had an article on this recently. The China lockdown and wider supply chain issues combined with the fact the MBP is a game changer and therefore in huge demand, has pushed delivery delays into August and maybe beyond.

If you’ve decided not to wait and are looking for a new MacBook Pro, you might need to wait some time. Consumer reports are pointing towards lower stock levels in the supply chain, with many Apple fans being asked to wait until August before picking up their new macOS-powered laptop.

While there is no single report or detail that confirms the issue, there are a growing number of Apple fans looking to buy a new MacBook Pro that are reporting long lead times to have their machines shipped. Add up all those data points, and the story becomes much clearer, as Michael Potuck explains:

"We started seeing more reports of the same and even the stock 14 and 16-inch MacBook Pro models were pushed into mid-July. It’s now a few weeks later and the supply issues are continuing. The stock 14 and 16-inch MacBook Pro notebooks are shipping as late as July 28. And direct from Apple, if you upgrade any component, like the M1 Pro/Max chip, RAM, or storage, the shipping time slips to as late as August 8."




On one hand, this has been expected. The consumer electronics industry has suffered from a shortage of supply to customers for some time now; with factors including the worldwide silicon chip shortage, the impact of the coronavirus pandemic, and the general slowing down of various economies all coming into play.

Apple has weathered this far more than other manufacturers - no doubt due to Apple’s size in the marketplace that demands more attention is paid to it compared to much smaller manufacturers chasing the same components.

On the other hand, Apple can’t change the fundamental laws of supply and demand. Once any backlog or goodwill has been used up, Tim Cook and his team will return to a level playing field and face the same challenges as other manufacturers. Which I suspect is what is happening here.

A mix of a new design of laptops (the first big change to the MacBook Pro platform since 2016) and the move to the ARM-based Apple Silicon offering better performance and endurance compared to the direct Intel equivalent, has increased the demand for the MacBook. With more demand on one side and reduced supply on the other, the delay from purchase to delivery for the average consumer can be measured in months.

Neither is it just the MacBook Pro affected, although its popularity means it is the most noticeable. The new Mac Studio and Studio Display are showing similar months-long delays, and while the standard iMac models can be picked up almost immediately, any upgrades to RAM or Storage will push delivery back to, you guessed it, August.

Maybe it’s better to wait till August… after all, Apple is set to announce new plans for the whole Mac family - including the MacBook Pro - at next month’s WWDC with the potential for new hardware before the end of the year.

 

AtheistP3ace

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Sep 17, 2014
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Philly
I finally received my 16'' M1 Max/64GB/1TB on Tuesday May 31st. Ordered on March 16th. 76 days or 2 months and 15 days. I am glad I waited. I almost cancelled thinking I should wait on M2 but the world is so insane lately who knows if M2 will be delayed or similarly next to impossible to find like the M1. Either way the wait was completely worth it. This machine is amazing.

I run multiple windows VMs at a time. Each has VSCode, VS2022, IIS, multiple custom windows services, implementing and debugging WPF apps, web apps, a giant no-code platform I architect plus have a million things happening on macOS too. Multiple monitors plugged in. It's only been a few days but I haven't heard the fan or had this thing stutter for a second. So impressed and excited to really get to work on this thing and see what it can handle.

I haven't met a machine that really handles my workload without stuttering, loud fans, crashes and issues. So far this machine has handled everything without an issue.

My only complaint so far is I cannot get SQL Server 2019 running. Right now I am just pointing to remote Azure Dbs but would really like to have everything local if I can just to handle any scenario. Excited about MS announcing all the ARM support coming to VS and other tools but have not heard a word about SQLServer in any of that. Oh well, life will find a way... just wish it was the way I wanted it! =] OK, apologies for the long post.
 

OW22

macrumors 6502
Sep 3, 2006
462
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Dublin, Ireland
I finally received my 16'' M1 Max/64GB/1TB on Tuesday May 31st. Ordered on March 16th. 76 days or 2 months and 15 days. I am glad I waited. I almost cancelled thinking I should wait on M2 but the world is so insane lately who knows if M2 will be delayed or similarly next to impossible to find like the M1. Either way the wait was completely worth it. This machine is amazing.

I run multiple windows VMs at a time. Each has VSCode, VS2022, IIS, multiple custom windows services, implementing and debugging WPF apps, web apps, a giant no-code platform I architect plus have a million things happening on macOS too. Multiple monitors plugged in. It's only been a few days but I haven't heard the fan or had this thing stutter for a second. So impressed and excited to really get to work on this thing and see what it can handle.

I haven't met a machine that really handles my workload without stuttering, loud fans, crashes and issues. So far this machine has handled everything without an issue.

My only complaint so far is I cannot get SQL Server 2019 running. Right now I am just pointing to remote Azure Dbs but would really like to have everything local if I can just to handle any scenario. Excited about MS announcing all the ARM support coming to VS and other tools but have not heard a word about SQLServer in any of that. Oh well, life will find a way... just wish it was the way I wanted it! =] OK, apologies for the long post.

You may as well have been speaking Dutch to me there. But it sounds like you're happy with it and so you should be! They are amazing machines.
 
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frozencarbonite

macrumors 6502
Aug 3, 2006
406
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I just received and set up my new M1 MacBook Pro this evening. Only to be disappointed that I cannot install VirtualBox on my new M1 Mac. This sucks so much! I purchased a Mac because I have been a professional Graphic Designer since 2004 and it's pretty much the standard. But I like to install and run both Windows and Linux systems in VirtualBox for fun, to run games and other misc. software. Now I find out that I cannot do so. Very disappointing! I guess I don't have much choice nowadays. Either I purchase a Mac for the work that I do, or I purchase a PC for fun. I hate this switch away from Intel processors.
 

jcampa70

macrumors newbie
Oct 27, 2006
25
12
Ordered mine yesterday at Apple Mexico, M1 Pro, 32 GB ram 2TB HD, let the wait begins!!!!!
 

Sweetheart777

macrumors newbie
Jun 11, 2017
15
10
My 16” MBP is sitting in Memphis, TN according to FedEx for arrival on June 1st. It looks like the M2 MacBook Pro has been delayed until mid-2023, and may be a slightly modified M1 anyhow. Even the iPhone 14 is getting a stopgap processor instead of what Apple intended to ship.

soooo glad I didn’t cancel my order. The true m2 16” MBP is likely slipping to early 2024, and may be called an M3.
Technically my laptop arrived on May 31st, but FedEx was playing delivery shenanigans. Manufacture date is May 23rd.

First impression: Bigger than I thought, heavier than I thought.
 

MrGimper

macrumors G3
Sep 22, 2012
9,025
12,929
Andover, UK
I just received and set up my new M1 MacBook Pro this evening. Only to be disappointed that I cannot install VirtualBox on my new M1 Mac. This sucks so much! I purchased a Mac because I have been a professional Graphic Designer since 2004 and it's pretty much the standard. But I like to install and run both Windows and Linux systems in VirtualBox for fun, to run games and other misc. software. Now I find out that I cannot do so. Very disappointing! I guess I don't have much choice nowadays. Either I purchase a Mac for the work that I do, or I purchase a PC for fun. I hate this switch away from Intel processors.
Exactly why I still have my 2019 i9 16"
 

MrGimper

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Sep 22, 2012
9,025
12,929
Andover, UK
I finally received my 16'' M1 Max/64GB/1TB on Tuesday May 31st. Ordered on March 16th. 76 days or 2 months and 15 days. I am glad I waited. I almost cancelled thinking I should wait on M2 but the world is so insane lately who knows if M2 will be delayed or similarly next to impossible to find like the M1. Either way the wait was completely worth it. This machine is amazing.

I run multiple windows VMs at a time. Each has VSCode, VS2022, IIS, multiple custom windows services, implementing and debugging WPF apps, web apps, a giant no-code platform I architect plus have a million things happening on macOS too. Multiple monitors plugged in. It's only been a few days but I haven't heard the fan or had this thing stutter for a second. So impressed and excited to really get to work on this thing and see what it can handle.

I haven't met a machine that really handles my workload without stuttering, loud fans, crashes and issues. So far this machine has handled everything without an issue.

My only complaint so far is I cannot get SQL Server 2019 running. Right now I am just pointing to remote Azure Dbs but would really like to have everything local if I can just to handle any scenario. Excited about MS announcing all the ARM support coming to VS and other tools but have not heard a word about SQLServer in any of that. Oh well, life will find a way... just wish it was the way I wanted it! =] OK, apologies for the long post.
Are your windows VMs x86 or ARM?

SQL is available as a container.... I run it on macOS using docker, and in Linux as a container. Can it run on M1 via docker, or in a Linux VM/Container?
 

AtheistP3ace

macrumors 6502a
Sep 17, 2014
663
431
Philly
Are your windows VMs x86 or ARM?

SQL is available as a container.... I run it on macOS using docker, and in Linux as a container. Can it run on M1 via docker, or in a Linux VM/Container?
Well my old VMs were x86 cause they were running on intel. Now with the M1 all you can run as far as windows goes is the ARM version so I have windows 11 ARM now.

I have heard of the docker thing, would need to research it. You run SQL Server in a docker container on ARM?
 

MrGimper

macrumors G3
Sep 22, 2012
9,025
12,929
Andover, UK
Well my old VMs were x86 cause they were running on intel. Now with the M1 all you can run as far as windows goes is the ARM version so I have windows 11 ARM now.

I have heard of the docker thing, would need to research it. You run SQL Server in a docker container on ARM?
Ah OK, I'm not too "up" on the x86 emulations options on M1.

I run SQL in docker on Intel.
 

pshifrin

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Mar 14, 2010
519
387
Looks like B&H received a nice shipment of many CTO configs this morning. Just ordered the 16 inch I was looking for, delivering tomorrow vs an estimated August 8th - 22nd on Apple.com, if I were to place the order today.
 
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childoftheko4n

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Oct 18, 2011
274
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Ordered a 14" with 8/4-8/17 as target window
M1 Pro
32GB
1TB

Ive owned a 2006 15" MBP, and a Gen 1 15" Retina MBP. went iMac some years ago and for the last year have been w/o Mac. CANNOT WAIT to get a MBP back in my hands. The iMac was an absolutely stunning machine for the years i used it, but the MBP was always just..magical to use. Fingers crossed for maybe a slightly early delivery!
 
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podiki

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Sep 8, 2008
136
39
Lagovouni
Ordered a MacBook Pro 16" with 32GB memory and 1TB of storage on the 25th of April and it arrived today. It's got the 'basic' processor.

Unfortunately it's still at the office, so i won't get it until tomorrow. 😪
Oh well, I will survive another night without a functioning laptop.
 
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