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macduke

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Jun 27, 2007
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While playing around trying in the apple store to figure out what specs might be available to pickup for the M3 max, I noticed that if you selected the 2TB SSD, the delivery dates moved out by several weeks. Didn't matter which chip or memory config, just the 2 TB SSD caused the biggest shift. I suspect that there's some kind of shortage or limited stock of that part and that's why you're getting the dates in Dec. I'll cross my fingers that they are being super conservative and you'll get yours sooner though!!!
Oh wait, I think I have the binned chip. I got confused when posting. Mine is the 16/40, which I think is what people are saying is binned, as in they set those aside in their special bin for high end spec because it passed their testing for all cores working well. But if that's the case, then how does yours have 64GB? I thought the unbinned 14/30 only has 36GB and 96GB options? Or are you also confused like I was? LOL.
 

intarray

macrumors newbie
Nov 13, 2023
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Ordered Nov 7th and my card was just charged.
SB Max Binned 36GB 2TB

Original delivery estimate: Nov 29 - Dec 6
New estimate: Nov 30 - Dec 4

Never seen the estimate get pushed back like that they are usually early.
 

sionell

macrumors regular
Nov 12, 2020
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Oh wait, I think I have the binned chip. I got confused when posting. Mine is the 16/40, which I think is what people are saying is binned, as in they set those aside in their special bin for high end spec because it passed their testing for all cores working well. But if that's the case, then how does yours have 64GB? I thought the unbinned 14/30 only has 36GB and 96GB options? Or are you also confused like I was? LOL
This is what I ordered and am waiting for:

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Edited to add: Maybe I'm using binned/unbinned backwards? 🤣
 
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lJoSquaredl

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Mar 26, 2012
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I'm about to trade in my Air for the 14", but I'm not sure it's exactly what I need unless I try it. You can just cancel/delay your trade in/gift card process if you return the other one while you reevaluate correct? If I don't use the 14" I assume I'll just go 16" instead but I'm considering the 15" Air as well. If I send the 14" back and switch for a 15" or 16" will Apple just restart the 2 week window again when you get the next one?
 

winterny

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Jul 5, 2010
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My 16" Black MBP M3 Max / Unbinned / 128GB / 4TB shows "Clearance delay - Import - Memphis TN", with an unknown delivery date. It's meant to go to Florida, but stuck in Memphis for now. Shipped FedEx.

Any guess what's going on? This is the first time I've ever seen an Apple shipment get stuck in Customs.
Still stuck in customs in Memphis 24 hours later...
 

venefica666

macrumors newbie
Nov 13, 2023
5
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ordered 16" 14/40/48gig on the 7th, charged yesterday and flipped to preparing to ship today. says it delivers between the original 24th-28th window but I'm guessing I'm gonna get it this week instead...
 

cannono

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Oct 21, 2014
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For US ppl who got their orders: once your order said shipped on Apple’s site, is the DHL initial estimate accurate or can it be quicker?

mine shipped yesterday and the estimated delivery is the very last day of the original range Apple gave …
 

macduke

macrumors G5
Jun 27, 2007
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Ordered Nov 7th and my card was just charged.
SB Max Binned 36GB 2TB

Original delivery estimate: Nov 29 - Dec 6
New estimate: Nov 30 - Dec 4

Never seen the estimate get pushed back like that they are usually early.
The binned chips start at 48GB RAM. You must have unbinned, the 14/30.
 

venefica666

macrumors newbie
Nov 13, 2023
5
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my 14” 16/40 max 48/1tb ordered on the 7th just dropped its dhl tracking after one day on preparing to ship. originally supposed to arrive after thanksgiving, so i’m rly happy
 

macduke

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Jun 27, 2007
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You're confused. The "unbinned" chips are the ones without disabled cores. The binned chips are the 14/30 chips. Binned means they have had cores turned off.
Weird, I had seen others discussing that they bin the best chips, and I’ve seen references online before about “winning the chip lottery” and how they “bin the best CPUs for overlocking.”

So I did a deeper dive, and the reality is we shouldn’t be using this term at all. Every chip is binned, both lower and higher and middle and everything in between. The term is used for the generic separating of chips based on performance through testing for defects. Sometimes it will be entire defective cores, sometimes smaller defects that affect thermals and therefore clock speed. For example, Intel will bin especially high performing models with a K at the end and that denotes they’re better for overlocking due to so few problems. But they’ll also bin major defects, like i9 that have defective cores and bin as i7.

I bet there are some PC nerds who stumbled across our threads and are making fun of us all right now since it seems like nobody here knows what they’re talking about when it comes to binning. But having done some research after seeing your response, reading articles from five or six hardware websites, I’m pretty confident now that we should stop using this term and just refer to them as 14/30 Max or 16/40 Max. Or maybe just low Max and high Max. And that’s probably why I see so much confusion with users on here as well. Binned really means nothing in this context, as it can mean both, which does nothing to explain what we purchased to others, which is a communication failure.
 

torifile

macrumors regular
Aug 10, 2020
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Weird, I had seen others discussing that they bin the best chips, and I’ve seen references online before about “winning the chip lottery” and how they “bin the best CPUs for overlocking.”

So I did a deeper dive, and the reality is we shouldn’t be using this term at all. Every chip is binned, both lower and higher and middle and everything in between. The term is used for the generic separating of chips based on performance through testing for defects. Sometimes it will be entire defective cores, sometimes smaller defects that affect thermals and therefore clock speed. For example, Intel will bin especially high performing models with a K at the end and that denotes they’re better for overlocking due to so few problems. But they’ll also bin major defects, like i9 that have defective cores and bin as i7.

I bet there are some PC nerds who stumbled across our threads and are making fun of us all right now since it seems like nobody here knows what they’re talking about when it comes to binning. But having done some research after seeing your response, reading articles from five or six hardware websites, I’m pretty confident now that we should stop using this term and just refer to them as 14/30 Max or 16/40 Max. Or maybe just low Max and high Max. And that’s probably why I see so much confusion with users on here as well. Binned really means nothing in this context, as it can mean both, which does nothing to explain what we purchased to others, which is a communication failure.
I agree. I think it’s a silly way to describe them and both are technically binned. That said, I think using the term “binned” to describe the one with disabled cores makes most sense since “binned” also means “thrown in the trash” which is what would have been done were it not for the ability to turn off cores.
 

LenardG

macrumors member
Nov 22, 2021
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Finland
MacBook Pro 14" / M3 Max 16/40 / 48GB / 1TB
Ordered 9th of November
Original estimate: ships in 7-9 business days, delivery estimate 27th - 29th November.
Shipped: 14th of November. Current delivery estimate 21st November.
Shipped with: DHL

I was pretty surprised by the shipping notification, especially since another M3 Max 14/30 unit was ordered a week earlier, and that still has not shipped.
 

LenardG

macrumors member
Nov 22, 2021
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Finland
I agree. I think it’s a silly way to describe them and both are technically binned. That said, I think using the term “binned” to describe the one with disabled cores makes most sense since “binned” also means “thrown in the trash” which is what would have been done were it not for the ability to turn off cores.
It is not necessarily just trash that gets binned, probably also good chips that get disabled and sold as the cheaper variant. Chip manufacturers have been previously known to do this, and historically there have been Intel chips where (with great difficulty) you could activate the disabled cores.

There are way too many machines sold with the "binned" version that random silicon production issues would account for all of them. In all likelyhood TSMC just disabling the excess cores and Apple is selling them as cheaper versions.

The amount of cores disabled is just too little that for example, there are M3 Maxes that have 12 flawless CPU cores and then M3 Maxes with just 1 or 2 bad cores. Manufacturing defects are way more random than that.
 
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sionell

macrumors regular
Nov 12, 2020
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My order is on it's way! Apple sent me a ship notice yesterday, and the UPS tracking info is also showing in MyChoice so I can see progress.

MacBook Pro 14" / M3 Max 16/40 / 64GB / 4TB
Ordered Nov 6th
Original estimate: November 22 - 27
Shipped: Nov 14. Apple currently states I'll have it by Nov 20
Shipped with: UPS (estimated delivery this Friday, Nov 17)

It's currently in Shanghai - and hasn't Export scanned yet, but based on past shipments, it's on track. Assuming no delays, I'm hoping the UPS estimate of this Friday is accurate so I have the weekend to set it up.
 

TedJustAdmitit

macrumors 6502
Feb 23, 2010
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Dumb question that won’t have an exact answer. How long is it seeming to take for packages to change from “Preparing to ship” to “Shipped”?
 
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