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IHelpId10t5

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Nov 28, 2014
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I love this thread. We are essentially watching the downfall of greedy, evil, ad networks. Apple has just delivered a much needed major blow to the ad industry by allowing blockers.

I hope that the operators of ad-supported websites are really sweating at this point. They have profited at the expense of their viewers for too long. Lets hope that ad networks that allow script-laden payloads are going to finally come to end end now that iOS has blocking (and the recent blows to Flash ads by Chrome and Amazon). I, and many others are actually fine with having advertising on the sites that I frequent (I have never, ever clicked on an ad but I'm fine with their presence). What has forced us all into using blockers like AdBlock, Ghostery, HTTPS Everywhere, Privacy Badger, and those discussed for iOS here are the horrible risks and annoyances presented by 3rd party ad networks and their tracking and aggressive scripted ads.

There is an easy solution to all of this for those websites that are supported by ads but actually value the safety and privacy of their readership. The solution is for sites to serve all ads as ONLY static .png or .jpeg ads, wrapped in simple HTML anchor tags, without any scripting allowed. In addition, ads must be served from the primary domain of the website, and not from CDNs of 3rd parties. Problem solved.
 

Rigby

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Aug 5, 2008
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I love this thread. We are essentially watching the downfall of greedy, evil, ad networks. Apple has just delivered a much needed major blow to the ad industry by allowing blockers.
I don't disagree regarding the big ad networks (which have taken the tracking and data mining way too far IMO), but let's keep in mind that Apple is not doing this for our benefit. They want to drive content from the web into apps, such as their own News app. If they succeed, not only will you not be able to block integrated ads (including Apple's own iAds) anymore, but the apps have potentially even more ways to track you than is today possible with Javascript. So be careful what you wish for ...
 

mpavilion

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Aug 4, 2014
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I don't disagree regarding the big ad networks (which have taken the tracking and data mining way too far IMO), but let's keep in mind that Apple is not doing this for our benefit. They want to drive content from the web into apps, such as their own News app. If they succeed, not only will you not be able to block integrated ads (including Apple's own iAds) anymore, but the apps have potentially even more ways to track you than is today possible with Javascript. So be careful what you wish for ...

If that's their goal, they're playing a pretty long game. I would think the online publishing biz will "adapt" before the Web becomes a ghost town and everyone submits to the Apple/Facebook overlords as gatekeepers of all content.
 

ardchoille50

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Feb 6, 2014
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Sorry but this has happened several times here. Or are you trying to push purify?

Don’t think you are watchdog for this thread, or are u?
I was attempting to keep duplicates to a minimum, this thread is long enough as it is. I'll just add you to my ignore list so I won't have to see it and scroll past it the next time you do it - my mobile screen is too small already. Thanks for the hint.
 
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Abazigal

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Jul 18, 2011
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I love this thread. We are essentially watching the downfall of greedy, evil, ad networks. Apple has just delivered a much needed major blow to the ad industry by allowing blockers.

I hope that the operators of ad-supported websites are really sweating at this point. They have profited at the expense of their viewers for too long. Lets hope that ad networks that allow script-laden payloads are going to finally come to end end now that iOS has blocking (and the recent blows to Flash ads by Chrome and Amazon). I, and many others are actually fine with having advertising on the sites that I frequent (I have never, ever clicked on an ad but I'm fine with their presence). What has forced us all into using blockers like AdBlock, Ghostery, HTTPS Everywhere, Privacy Badger, and those discussed for iOS here are the horrible risks and annoyances presented by 3rd party ad networks and their tracking and aggressive scripted ads.

There is an easy solution to all of this for those websites that are supported by ads but actually value the safety and privacy of their readership. The solution is for sites to serve all ads as ONLY static .png or .jpeg ads, wrapped in simple HTML anchor tags, without any scripting allowed. In addition, ads must be served from the primary domain of the website, and not from CDNs of 3rd parties. Problem solved.
Technically, the ad networks don't suffer, because each impression that is denied by an ad-blocker is an impression that is not paid out as cash to the website.

So who we are really punishing with our actions are the publishers, who earn less in ad revenue. It hurts, I know, but I hope this will incentivise them to put us readers first and foremost when designing their websites. My iPhone 5s' browser should not have to freeze on the front page of TheVerge and leave me unable to scroll while a giant beer ad spins lazily in front of me.
 

Abazigal

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So after rave reviews, I've tried the content blocker Crystal. I haven't noticed any increase in page loading speed, plus I now have to reload sometimes, and also it sometimes will not load a video on screen (example : cnn video streams just show and image, not the play button for video). Seems like a waste of a dollar
For me at least, webpages definitely load faster and more smoothly now that there are no ads to show.

What webpages are you referring to? You can also send feedback to the developer via share sheet extensions, see if he can work something out.
 
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tosbsas

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I was attempting to keep duplicates to a minimum, this thread is long enough as it is. I'll just add you to my ignore list so I won't have to see it and scroll past it the next time you do it - my mobile screen is too small already. Thanks for the hint.
You welcome. Always good to help others
 

dearfriendx

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Jun 3, 2011
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I beta tested Crystal. It's okay. Of course it will be lots better after people submit fixes for sites and the dev fixes his list.

With that said, I've moved onto Purify (from the guy who took over uBlock on desktops) and I haven't even run into one issue. Tabs load way faster and no websites have been broken. White spaces where ads previously were are removed. He explains on Twitter that a lot of content blockers are just copying and pasting desktop blocker rules into iOS content blocking and hoping it works. This guy has been relentlessly coding up lists "by hand" specifically for mobile Safari and it really shows.

I also suggest uBlock to anyone who uses a computer as well. I did a few tests with different blockers like Adblock, ABP, Ghostery and Disconnect and uBlock came out on top in all of them almost. With concerns to ad blocking, page load times, CPU usage and RAM usage. Go uBlock and Purify! I've done the testing for you :p
 

steveing64

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I have used crystal since the beta yes some pages don't load but the speed increase on loading pages makes a big difference for me as well as getting rid of these ads that cover whole page well worth the money in my option
 

laudern

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Jan 5, 2011
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Or you could have just reported it to get it fixed, instead of uninstalling it and not letting the developer know. The crystal app has reporting broken sites built in.
That is exactly what I did. So hopefully it will be fixed in due course.
 

ZiPpYMaT

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Sep 20, 2015
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What about Ad Block Multi - https://appsto.re/it/ven29.i ? It seems to have many features (malwares, spywares, scripts, social networks, region specific filters, EU cookies law notices) and it's just 0.99. Did anyone compared the loading speed to Purify?
 

nmeed

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Dec 1, 2014
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I beta tested Crystal. It's okay. Of course it will be lots better after people submit fixes for sites and the dev fixes his list.

With that said, I've moved onto Purify (from the guy who took over uBlock on desktops) and I haven't even run into one issue. Tabs load way faster and no websites have been broken. White spaces where ads previously were are removed. He explains on Twitter that a lot of content blockers are just copying and pasting desktop blocker rules into iOS content blocking and hoping it works. This guy has been relentlessly coding up lists "by hand" specifically for mobile Safari and it really shows.

I also suggest uBlock to anyone who uses a computer as well. I did a few tests with different blockers like Adblock, ABP, Ghostery and Disconnect and uBlock came out on top in all of them almost. With concerns to ad blocking, page load times, CPU usage and RAM usage. Go uBlock and Purify! I've done the testing for you :p
I have uBlock on my Mac and Purify and they are both the truth.
 

miknos

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Disappointing to see some lame scare tactics to discourage people from using ad blockers. You might as well say your antivirus detected a trojan and your screen cracked after installing the content blocker.

Ad blockers exist for a while. I've been using since early 00' (proxomitron). You see some small hiccups in few websites but it's totally worth it. Today those hiccups barely exist due to collaboration among users and devs. They make your computer/device safer, faster and cleaner. There's nothing worse than trying to read an article with a flashing ad in the MIDDLE OF IT. Try some free game on Android. You get served by so many ads you can barely play. When you uninstall it, too late. Already got all kinds of malware.

I NEVER clicked on an ad (unless by mistake). I don't need penis pumps/enlargement pills, medications, diplomas, new car, "cleaner app" (malware) to make my computer faster nor reply to a pretty model (from Ashley Madison) who want to know me.

I know it hurt some but instead of using some lame scare tactics, you guys better find a different way to get revenue. Movie studios used to complain about piracy. What they do now? They put "hidden" advertising in films so even those who download illegally get served by ads (reaching more public) and it was never as easy to download a movie (Amazon, Netflix, iTunes Store, Hulu, etc). Same for music. "Piracy is destroying the industry". Today people prefer to buy a high-quality tune instead of downloading. Many prefer to pay a fixed monthly price (Apple Music, Spotify, etc) to listen to all they want.

We might as well blame the sun for not being able to sell as many candles. Remind me of Flash devs defending Adobe Flash.

Adapt or die.
 
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hank moody

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Jan 18, 2015
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I got Crystal for free so I can't compare to others. Adblock Plus is going to release an app soon (it's in review process by Apple) and it's going to be free. They have a list even better than Ghostery so I guess it's going to be the best around.

adblock plus is sh*t. They accept money from ads companies to whitelist their trackers/ads.
 

miknos

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Mar 14, 2008
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^^

Does it apply to EasyList/EasyPrivacy?

When subscribing you have an option to enable "acceptable ads". In my case I disable all of them. I use Ad Guard (Safari/Mac) with EasyList with GlimmerBlocker.
 

eclipse01

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May 16, 2011
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If you using the original iPad mini 1 crystal won't work. I believe it has something to do about the iPad mini being 32 bit. If you go to any blocker apps they don't list the iPad mini, they list the iPad mini 2 and beyond.
Mini 3...


Also is it just me or does purify keep going up in price? Feel like it was 1.99 a few days ago, then 2.99 and now i see its 3.99. Maybe its just me
 
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Mystro

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On my Mini 4, Crystal works but loads pages too slow. Purify is much quicker and what I am currently using.
 
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