The iPhone from an Android Perspective

[mi7chy]

People need to discern between marketing and reality. The incident in the news about repair technician pilfering female customer's private iPhone pictures could've been prevented with a feature similar to Samsung Secure Folder or Pixel Locked Folder.

 

[jamezr]

People need to discern between marketing and reality. The incident in the news about repair technician pilfering female customer's private iPhone pictures could've been prevented with a feature similar to Samsung Secure Folder or Pixel Locked Folder.

and not requiring people to disable security to have their phone repaired. That seems like a bad idea....

 

[TopherMan12]

People need to discern between marketing and reality. The incident in the news about repair technician pilfering female customer's private iPhone pictures could've been prevented with a feature similar to Samsung Secure Folder or Pixel Locked Folder.

There are free apps that do that.

‎Folder Lock

‎Folder Lock lets you password-protect your personal files, photos, videos, documents, contacts, wallet cards, password manager, notes and audios in your iPhone. Apart from being a perfect cross-platform data security app, Folder Lock is a perfect WiFi manager app too, as you can transfer files...

apps.apple.com

and not requiring people to disable security to have their phone repaired. That seems like a bad idea....

Better off backing up the phone and erasing it. Still seems like a pain in the butt. I've never had to do this. What would you do on Android?

 

[mi7chy]

Better off backing up the phone and erasing it. Still seems like a pain in the butt. I've never had to do this. What would you do on Android?

Not even the same. Untrusted third party with ads and password only protection without containerization and encryption. I wouldn't trust that rubbish.

 

[TopherMan12]

Not even the same. Untrusted third party with ads and password only protection without containerization and encryption. I wouldn't trust that rubbish.

That was the first result of a google search. It would have prevented what happened with those pictures and videos.

There are other options.

6 Apps to Help Secure Your iPhone or iPad Data

Afraid someone might be able to access your phone and get to your files and pictures? Add an extra layer of security with these apps.

www.pcmag.com

Either way, Samsung's own recommendation is to back up/erase your phone before handing it over.

http://image-us.samsung.com/SamsungUS/support/solutions/mobile/Samsung-Carry-In-Service-PhoneTablet.pdf

 

[drinkingtea]

The new bottom bar navigation in Safari. ?

 

[drinkingtea]

Not all surprised by the lack of AOD on the 13. If it was going to happen, it would have been announced during the software keynote.

 

[jamezr]

Not all surprised by the lack of AOD on the 13. If it was going to happen, it would have been announced during the software keynote.

It was one feature I was really looking forward to...

 

[The Game 161]

It was one feature I was really looking forward to...

Likewise

seemed a perfect time to add it now the pros have 120hz.

 

[Oohara]

It was one feature I was really looking forward to...

Not all surprised by the lack of AOD on the 13. If it was going to happen, it would have been announced during the software keynote.

They want people to buy the Watch Wouldn't surprise me if the iPhone never gets AOD.

 

[cuzo]

They want people to buy the Watch Wouldn't surprise me if the iPhone never gets AOD.

you know this makes a lot of sense.

I feel apple wants a phone to be a phone and if you need something else well it's a separate device for that. AOD is huge but Apple seems to want you to look at your wrist.

I'm bored of the iPhone and want to try out the flip 3 and watch 4.

 

[jamezr]

you know this makes a lot of sense.

I feel apple wants a phone to be a phone and if you need something else well it's a separate device for that. AOD is huge but Apple seems to want you to look at your wrist.

I'm bored of the iPhone and want to try out the flip 3 and watch 4.

It is the same reasoning and logic on why they don't make a laptop with a touch display. They want you to buy a iPad and a Macbook

 

[Oohara]

you know this makes a lot of sense.

I feel apple wants a phone to be a phone and if you need something else well it's a separate device for that. AOD is huge but Apple seems to want you to look at your wrist.

I'm bored of the iPhone and want to try out the flip 3 and watch 4.

Yeah, mostly though I think honestly their approach is to never give their customers everything they want. They always maintain that certain space where they reserve the right to dictate what we want. Part of their genius IMO, and a crucial ingredient of their success.

Their most loyal customers trust them to know best. Otherwise they’d never let it slide that they never get multi window, AOD, pen, 120Hz display (until now…) etc… The list is absolutely endless of things Apple would have added if they were a manufacturer who was in the game of attracting followers by providing what people wanted. instead they retain even more loyal followers by making them their b*tch.

Of course the leash and whip are complemented by outstanding quality, design and reliability of the things they do provide, and of course unparalleled customer service and advertising + an illustrious and magical history unlike any other company thanks to Jobs.

But they ain’t giving us AOD or a bunch of other things we want, maybe ever, even though it’d be the easiest thing in the world for them - because they need to maintain that it’s them calling the shots.

Oh and right, also to make us buy those additional gadgets

 

[Tig Bitties]

I'd never wear an iWatch or smartwatch. I hate any type of extra jewelry or wearables on my body.

A smartphone to me is my personal computer gadget all in one device. I want everything just on this one device.

So Apple, wake up and give us AoD already.

LOL

 

[840quadra]

AoD is one of the biggest reasons I still have my Pixel 3 as a daily driver. It is the best alarm clock / bedside notification machine. Running the new Android Beta made it even better overall. I am hoping that the next pixel adds to what you can do on the screen without 3rd party additions.

Skipping the new generation iPhones yet again. Too many misses for what I need in a device.

 

[aggie99]

AoD is one of the biggest reasons I still have my Pixel 3 as a daily driver. It is the best alarm clock / bedside notification machine. Running the new Android Beta made it even better overall. I am hoping that the next pixel adds to what you can do on the screen without 3rd party additions.

Skipping the new generation iPhones yet again. Too many misses for what I need in a device.

It's crazy that they can't offer it as an option you can turn on and off. I'm sure they will use that as a selling point for the next iPhone. I agree on the Pixel as a bedside alarm clock. Still use my 4XL on the night stand every night.

Also skipping the iPhones this go around. This will be the second iPhone I have skipped with the only other one being the 4S

 

[840quadra]

It's crazy that they can't offer it as an option you can turn on and off. I'm sure they will use that as a selling point for the next iPhone. I agree on the Pixel as a bedside alarm clock. Still use my 4XL on the night stand every night.

Also skipping the iPhones this go around. This will be the second iPhone I have skipped with the only other one being the 4S

LOL, I also skipped the 4S (the 4 was my first iPhone), and also skipped the 12. The 11 Pro Max is still quite capable for my needs and still is a powerhouse for editing video from my mirrorless camera, GoPro, and still decent internal cameras.

 

[snakes-]

Apple with the iPhone is no innovation leader anymore, to offer the fastest cpu and calling it amazing is not enough...
Android devices have catched up and with india as new super market its now a lucrative business for android brands.
2022 would be a super cycle year for android devices, because of all the innovations that will come. I am daily on weibo and its funny to see all the leaks and how fast manufacturers offer devices and new features.

 

[840quadra]

Apple with the iPhone is no innovation leader anymore, to offer the fastest cpu and calling it amazing is not enough...
Android devices have catched up and with india as new super market its now a lucrative business for android brands.
2022 would be a super cycle year for android devices, because of all the innovations that will come. I am daily on weibo and its funny to see all the leaks and how fast manufacturers offer devices and new features.

IDK the processor speed is a huge selling point for me. I work with time critical photos and videos for clients, and being able to batch process and edit 4K video on device is a huge plus for iPhone. Biggest issue I have is the slow as dirt IO because they refuse to ditch lightning.

It is slow enough now that the lack of processor HP in the upcoming Pixel 6 (as compared to new Apple Silicon) may be resolved by much faster USB-C IO. Fast editing and export (to internal storage on phone) is meaningless if it takes ages to copy raw files and export finished product from the device. My biggest issue with Android right now, is the total vacuum of decent Video editors. The Apps that do this on the iOS landscape are far superior (my personal preference). Photo editing is totally on par though.

 

[The Game 161]

IDK the processor speed is a huge selling point for me. I work with time critical photos and videos for clients, and being able to batch process and edit 4K video on device is a huge plus for iPhone. Biggest issue I have is the slow as dirt IO because they refuse to ditch lightning.

It is slow enough now that the lack of processor HP in the upcoming Pixel 6 (as compared to new Apple Silicon) may be resolved by much faster USB-C IO. Fast editing and export (to internal storage on phone) is meaningless if it takes ages to copy raw files and export finished product from the device. My biggest issue with Android right now, is the total vacuum of decent Video editors. The Apps that do this on the iOS landscape are far superior (my personal preference). Photo editing is totally on par though.

I would say apple innovation iPhone wise is certainly within video. What they are doing to make it as a video recording replacement is legit. With all these different Versions recording wise and people will be able to create with their iPhone that’s rather game changing.

iOS has its faults but there isn’t much the iPhones are missing these days from the competition

 

[Septembersrain]

I'm thinking I'll be moving away from Apple entirely within the next year on the mobile phone end. I barely use it these days. I'm always on my V60. Knowing I won't update my iOS, it's only a matter of time before my 11 PM becomes unusable. I'm thinking I'll seek out a Sony Xperia. Headphone jack, awesome specs, and my only issue is that it isn't being carried by AT&T.

I started with Android, got BlackBerries, Windows phones, and iPhones for curiosity. I just don't enjoy the Apple ecosystem anymore and I never fully integrated. So only my iPad and unused gen 0/1 (Can't remember which) Apple watch that sits around will be left.

 

[Rowdy07]

I'm cracking up at all the Apple people saying how much they love Promotion but 6 months ago it was a gimmick on Android lol - I have an 13 Pro Max so I'm far from an Apple hater. I just thought that was funny.

 

[Vegastouch]

I'm cracking up at all the Apple people saying how much they love Promotion but 6 months ago it was a gimmick on Android lol - I have an 13 Pro Max so I'm far from an Apple hater. I just thought that was funny.

Everything Android has that Apple doesn't is a gimmick or not needed til they get it.

 

[mi7chy]

More surprising is the placebo effect. There's a whole thread with people saying how amazing Safari is at 120Hz while thinking iPadOS/iOS limits both Safari and 3rd party browsers to 60Hz and confirmed by https://www.vsynctester.com/, https://www.testufo.com/, etc.

 

[Abazigal]

I'm cracking up at all the Apple people saying how much they love Promotion but 6 months ago it was a gimmick on Android lol - I have an 13 Pro Max so I'm far from an Apple hater. I just thought that was funny.

I think as with many features that android phones had first, it’s not so just the feature itself that is problematic, but the implementation. I recall earlier Samsung phones having this faster refresh rate working only with a lower resolution, or resulting in significant battery drain. With iOS, the refresh rate can drop to as low as 10 hz for certain tasks, resulting in possible power savings even.

The TL; DR is that android users buy specs, while iPhone users buy the user experience. Different strokes for different people.

It goes all the way back to earlier snapdragon chips having worse performance than A-series processors despite android users loving to boast about how they sported more cores and more ram. My 5s got “only” 2 cores, but snappier app performance and iMovie export speeds for it.

I find that Android phones tend to focus more on numerical specs (like number of megapixels in a phone), probably because competition is so stiff. With Apple, the main consideration really is whether the next iPhone is good enough to prompt an existing iPhone user to upgrade or not (and even then, the target market is someone with a 2-4 year old iPhone, not the previous year’s model), so they can choose to focus on stuff like larger pixels (instead of more), which would normally be marketing suicide for competing products.

I don’t find it funny as a iPhone user. Apple is sucking the oxygen out of the smartphone market by slowly removing the reasons for choosing an android phone one by one, and I would personally worry more about the continued vitality and viability of the android smartphone market, than I would about what features android had first over the iPhone.