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Not a fan of his misinformation so I don't listen, however deplatforming generally just amps up their exposure, so just ignore it and let it fade into obscurity.

it will be a lot more effective to tackle misinformation in the media (looking at you faux news & daily mail).
What is your source that identifies misinformation in the media?
 
Right. Just seems a strange deal. If your Joe Rogan why not just do your own and keep the profit. Is it that hard?
When you have a major streaming platform like Spotify invested and giving you upfront money, to share your future ad profits, they will help you get the advertising needed from bigger spenders as opposed to mostly Manscaped, vitamins, crypto and VPN ads. Plus, Spotify has knowingly turned a blind eye to fake stream number cooking on their platform, which can really help the algorithms on their own platforms and YouTube etc. to help him gain more viewers and more advertising rev. which will only help both of them. It's a symbiotic relationship.
 
I don't listen to it, but I love Joe Rogan. He's really good at articulating what is going on during UFC fights, and breaking it down in a way anyone can understand. Good for the sport and helping people feel like they know a bit about it so they are more likely to stick around and keep watching.
 
What Rogan is practicing is many thing, but it's not journalism. He very rarely challenges his guests with interesting questions, which makes most interviews boring and a waste of time. I tried to listen to some shows where he had more controversial guests, but there is really not much you can learn from them.
He never once claimed nor do 99.999 percent of listeners think Joe Rogan is a journalist.
 
That was a hyperbole. I just meant to show some opinion not worthy of any consideration do clearly exist.
Neofascism is one of those, right there with people who think it’s fine to molest anybody.
And the problem is not about his opinions (he’s a moderate in many ways) but what people he invites say. He does invite and (very mildly) debates fascists.
What is "neofascism" on the podcast? (Can you elaborate?) Are these buzzwords something you came up with yourself, or are you by any chance brainwashed by MSM?
 
Fantastic news. No longer any need for Spotify.

Prediction. Not a single individual - whining like a seven year old kid who has been told they can't have another lollipop - complaining about the fact this podcast is back on Apple will be impacted whatsoever, and nor will they follow up their vapid and inconsequential opinions with any action at all.

Right, except for the ones who have already been adversely affected by hate speech, but you go on.
 
Where’s the strawman? Does he not invite neofascists, climate change denialists and antivax wackos? Are we talking about the same show? You call it strawman because you don’t know what a strawman is.

About the “think of the children”, you completely misunderstood my point. I was just taking an example of opinions that exist but are universally considered unacceptable and unworthy of broadcasting.
But since you mentioned that aspect… he did invite Milo Yiannopulous a few times, right? That makes my hyperbole wrong because he actually invited someone who doesn’t even agree with basic common sense about child molesting. So… sorry about that, I guess.

Not sure if you have no idea of who you’re talking about or just don’t care or even condone the dangerous ethical consequences of his “open-mindedness”.

I’ve not seen any neofascists, climate change denialists, or antivax wackos. I have definitely not heard him promote child molestation. I don’t know who that person is, I will look up that episode.

I have listened to hundreds of episodes several years ago. I’ve never heard anything dangerous or unethical.

Quick edit: 2 minute Wikipedia search says this tidbit along with a lot of other stuff:

In 2022, Yiannopoulos served as an intern for United States Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene, then worked with white nationalist Nick Fuentes and rapper Kanye Weston West's 2024 U.S. presidential election campaign.

So that’s interesting. I’ll listen to the episode. He invites people on all sides to have an open discussion about issues. I doubt he’s promoting white nationalism. I like how everyone assumes I read Breitbart but I have never once. I don’t read CNN either. AP and Reuters are about as neutral as it gets, I don’t like anyone to read “news” to me with an obvious bias. I do understand that right wing nut-jobs exist just as much as left-wing ones do. I still don’t think censorship is the answer. If what he says is stupid let everyone hear how stupid it is. This is just one of thousands of different kinds of people he has interviewed.
 
I don't understand all the vitriol towards Rogan. I don't agree with everything he says or does, but silencing dissenting opinions isn't a good idea. It's a podcast, there are thousands if not millions of podcasts you could choose to listen to or not listen to.

“Disagreement“ and “saying something different to considered opinion and fact” isn’t “dissent”.
 
Where’s the strawman? Does he not invite neofascists, climate change denialists and antivax wackos? Are we talking about the same show? You call it strawman because you don’t know what a strawman is.

About the “think of the children”, you completely misunderstood my point. I was just taking an example of opinions that exist but are universally considered unacceptable and unworthy of broadcasting.
But since you mentioned that aspect… he did invite Milo Yiannopulous a few times, right? That makes my hyperbole wrong because he actually invited someone who doesn’t even agree with basic common sense about child molesting. So… sorry about that, I guess.

Not sure if you have no idea of who you’re talking about or just don’t care or even condone the dangerous ethical consequences of his “open-mindedness”.
We found the free speech advocate folks!!! /sarcasm

Whatever you’re claiming as “universally unacceptable opinions”. There’s so much wrong with that statement but to put it simply for you ….Opinions aren’t acceptable or unacceptable. That’s why it’s called an opinion.
 
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That is a common generalization and misconception that promotes an erroneous stereotype.

It’s aluminum foil not tin foil.

 
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We found the free speech advocate folks!!! /sarcasm

Whatever you’re claiming as “universally unacceptable opinions”. There’s so much wrong with that statement but to put it simply for you ….Opinions aren’t acceptable or unacceptable. That’s why it’s called an opinion.

Exactly. That’s why going right to child molestation is another straw man. That’s not an opinion, that is universally wrong.
 
He never once claimed nor do 99.999 percent of listeners think Joe Rogan is a journalist.
So it's actually a parody of journalism then? That actually would make some sense. Maybe he is a genius after all.
 
I'm not saying you're wrong, but do you think a public figure with a huge platform should feel any responsibility about what he or she says or promotes?

Like even 0.0001% responsibility?

Or is it just a free for all no matter what consequences our actions have?

Not picking a fight, I'm genuinely curious.

No. Not at all. If those are his beliefs he promotes, it is no different than you or I no matter how many people listen. The ideals that get spoken about aren't limited to public figures when they speak. The ideals are already out there and the listeners/viewers need to exercise their own discretion on what they listen to or believe. This is where our education system is actually failing the country by not exercising enough freedom of choice no matter how bad the institutions' heads think the choices are. We are censoring speakers and that is leading to a very parochial view of everything in society.

And unless that public figure doles out instructions to actually go and do harm to any person or group, free speech is the greatest thing in the world.

If you want to see what has done more harm via words than anything else on earth, just watch the so called news nowadays.
 
He’s very good at his job. Which makes it even more dangerous.
Kids come for good interviews with rockstars and actors, the next week there’s a neofascist, a climate change denialist, an antivax, some other conspiracist.
All in the name of “listening to both sides”. So if someone is pro-child-molesting, should we broadcast their opinion or can we draw a line somewhere?

...wherein a person raising flags about "fascism", implies people aren't allowed to be heard.
 
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