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Best I can tell, Joe likes having conversations with people. You may not like the people on his show, or you may not like Joe’s personality, but he is quite popular nonetheless. I am a videoclip watcher more than an episode watcher - I don’t find interest in most of the guests.

And, speaking to the “disinformation” haters: you should be more disgusted with the education system which ceased training students to think, let alone think critically. Generation after generation is being stripped of their greatest power: free thought and free choice. Censorial behavior only further cements ignorance in the populace.
 
Best I can tell, Joe likes having conversations with people. You may not like the people on his show, or you may not like Joe’s personality, but he is quite popular nonetheless. I am a videoclip watcher more than an episode watcher - I don’t find interest in most of the guests.

And, speaking to the “disinformation” haters: you should be more disgusted with the education system which ceased training students to think, let alone think critically. Generation after generation is being stripped of their greatest power: free thought and free choice. Censorial behavior only further cements ignorance in the populace.
Joe is only part of the problem. The real issue is he invites controversial people to legitimise them for personal gain. Imagine this is still 1930s and Joe Rogan is having beer podcasts with Nazi Sympathisers. Do you feel that should be promoted in name of free speech?
 
Imagine being a grownup and just not listening to a podcast if it doesn’t interest you. Wow. What a concept! 😂

This is what the internet is nowadays.

Luckily, these people are just a vocal minority who don't matter at all. Netflix was a prime example who were supposed to get "cancelled" by the internet, yet they ended up being more profitable after banning account sharing.
 
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Cool, I guess. More ways to enjoy Oprah for Men™

I'm just glad I'm not enough of a basic bro to find this meathead compelling.

Imagine being a grownup and just not listening to a podcast if it doesn’t interest you. Wow. What a concept! 😂

Imagine being a grownup and not getting personally offended when someone doesn't like something you like. 🤷‍♂️
 
JR and most popular talking heads should be considered commercial speech, rather than free speech.

The very idea of “free speech” has found its nemesis in the spreading of misinformation on the Internet. To think that misinformation doesn’t pose a grave threat to humanity is to not understand its power. And the idea that there’s anything neutral, anywhere, is itself misinformation. But, you may say, how can anyone define what is and is not “misinformation?” This is, indeed, a subjective and a relative value judgment. One has to have aligned themselves with a set of values to be able to judge information. That coupled with one’s own “story” about existence provides the foundation upon which all information can be judged.

Any side in the discussion that thinks they are speaking some sort of universal truth is elevating their own understanding onto a platform of ideas that are way outside of the human scale, the ability to understand. The human brain didn’t evolve with the capability of understanding global ideas, or even ideas at the scale of most towns and cities.

I dislike JR because my chosen, subjective value system relative to how information should be developed and promoted is at odds with the free-for-all popularity contest of the internet upon which JR thrives. Both the Right and the Left tend to be at odds with my values. But then again, any idea that is meant to apply to more than about 150 people is on thin ice, in my opinion.
 
Fantastic news. No longer any need for Spotify.

Prediction. Not a single individual - whining like a seven year old kid who has been told they can't have another lollipop - complaining about the fact this podcast is back on Apple will be impacted whatsoever, and nor will they follow up their vapid and inconsequential opinions with any action at all.

I saw people state they didn’t like his podcast. I didn’t see any whining until your post. Isn’t that interesting.
 
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Hilarious responses here.

Goes to show his popularity far outweighs the small demographic that hunkers down in here afraid of a difference of opinion.

And yes. That's my difference of opinion.

Another strange take. I see no hunkering or fear in any posts up to this point. Are you hunkering in fear?
 
JR and most popular talking heads should be considered commercial speech, rather than free speech.
Exactly. Spotify wasn't under any obligation to make deals with Joe Rogan. Advertisers aren't under any obligation to advertise on his programs. Nobody is obligated to give him a deal or a platform. The corporate world could completely shut him out if they chose to do so and it wouldn't be a violation of free speech.
 
Rogan is not my thing but love anyone who’s willing to have long form discussions about anything without limits. Conspiracy theories, govt screwups, scandals. Whatever. It’s good to have open and interesting discussions with people with disagree with so we can understand them. Glad he is out there doing that.
 
Best I can tell, Joe likes having conversations with people. You may not like the people on his show, or you may not like Joe’s personality, but he is quite popular nonetheless. I am a videoclip watcher more than an episode watcher - I don’t find interest in most of the guests.

And, speaking to the “disinformation” haters: you should be more disgusted with the education system which ceased training students to think, let alone think critically. Generation after generation is being stripped of their greatest power: free thought and free choice. Censorial behavior only further cements ignorance in the populace.
Which is very evident in this thread...
 
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The guy who talks a lot of smack and then when it gets serious or there are consequences reverts back to "well I'm just some guy on the internet why would you believe anything I say?"

He should have stayed a host for TV gameshows.
Yeah, that's like Alex Jones from InfoWars testifying in divorce proceedings that all the things he said on the show should be considered to be the same as an actor reading from a script.
 
He’s very good at his job. Which makes it even more dangerous.
Kids come for good interviews with rockstars and actors, the next week there’s a neofascist, a climate change denialist, an antivax, some other conspiracist.
All in the name of “listening to both sides”. So if someone is pro-child-molesting, should we broadcast their opinion or can we draw a line somewhere?
People scared of ideas are always itching for control of others.

The proper solution for bad ideas isn’t hiding them it’s exposure. Child molesting is bad. You can have the pro child molesting people on any podcast and it’s going to go bad for them because fundamentally it’s terrible. Everyone who bothers to listen will leave thinking they are evil and disturbed. Same with fascists, racists, or communists. Their ideas are dumb so more exposure just shows more people how dumb they are.
 
Caveat: there's no need to understand people who are lying. Lying isn't a form of disagreement.
Sure. It’s also not necessary to have discussions with clinically insane people. But if you think everyone who disagrees with you is lying…probably need to rethink your priors. Not you you…just the imperial you. Most people who disagree with me are smart educated people with different values. They are not usually lying. Unless they are a politician then of course they are a liar.
 
Joe is only part of the problem. The real issue is he invites controversial people to legitimise them for personal gain. Imagine this is still 1930s and Joe Rogan is having beer podcasts with Nazi Sympathisers. Do you feel that should be promoted in name of free speech?
Yes.

The Nazi party was particularly embittered after the close of WWI and how the Treaty of Versailles was handled. Regardless of our opinion on the matter, how it was interpreted is what led to another war. Do you think Germany had a particularly tasteful view of the allies? How do you think the allies viewed Germany? It was ugly…

There are plenty of conflicts happening today, with both sides holding equally offensive views of one another. I may not support the genocide of Group A, but I sure as hell want to know why Group B wants them dead. Is it justified? Is there a misunderstanding? Is there an additional piece of info being withheld?

To avoid conflict, to silence dissent, to withhold opinion does not lead to a world without sin. On the contrary, it causes hatred to boil below the surface of society before finally erupting in an unpredictable manner.
 
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