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I afraid I get the opposite opinion and impression of Cook.

I think he has forsaken computers for IOS and wearable devises and high finance payment collection percentages.

I think the keynote was a defining moment for Apple. It said to the world (not that we needed telling again) that Apple is now a consumer led mobile tech company who also makes Desktop computers.

A few years ago that sentence would have been the other way round, but not any more.
 
I think the keynote was a defining moment for Apple. It said to the world (not that we needed telling again) that Apple is now a consumer led mobile tech company who also makes Desktop computers.

A few years ago that sentence would have been the other way round, but not any more.

Sounds to me as if they want to move in to banking without the risk and just reap the benefits of collecting a portion of each transaction.

The personal computer business is not good for anyone anymore.
 
MacWorld Magazine shutting down to skeleton staff and so goes the interests in Macs?

Post PC world.

I'm starting to think of it less as an end, then as a return. Before anyone heard the word 'online', computers were used for all kinds of things. The internet was just not among them. When it did come along, computers were the price for entry to the Information Highway. And everyone paid it. And the tech industry bloomed.

Now, as devices small and smaller peal off these connectivity roles, computers are increasingly optional (and even irrelevant) for such access. But they're not irrelevant for all roles. Computers can return to roles smaller and more important, than just overblown communication boxes. The trick then, will be adjusting to the remaining roles and remaining market size.

The tech industry is not accustomed to shrinking markets, but it will sooner or later shrink enough and become healthy again. Apple needs to define these new narrow roles and design future computers to fill them.
 
Is it the upcoming Mac Mini's CPU ? :eek::p:):D

Lilbits (9-10-2014): Intel Core M Broadwell chip benchmarked
http://liliputing.com/2014/09/lilbits-9-10-2014-intel-core-m-broadwell-chip-benchmarked.html
Intel’s first Broadwell chip is ready to go and the first laptops, tablets, and 2-in-1s featuring the new processor should hit the streets soon.

The Intel Core M processor is a 4.5 watt chip that has the kind of power consumption (and efficiency) you’d expect from a cheap Intel Atom processor. But early benchmark tests suggest this little chip is a beast: It seems to outperform Core i3 and Core i5 Haswell chips that use 3 times as much power in at least some tests.

That’s good news if you’ve been hoping for higher-performance portable devices. But it means that if you’re looking for cheap devices, you’ll probably be better off buying a system with an Intel Bay Trail chip for now.
More articles about this new CPU:
http://www.extremetech.com/computin...ce-and-tdp-at-14nm-intel-finally-goes-fanless
 
From an interesting article on Ars Technica about Intel's plans for Broadwell and Skylake CPUs:

"On the desktop, the Broadwell architecture will be limited to high-end processors. Intel has already announced plans for one or more chips that incorporate its top-end Iris Pro integrated GPU, something that wasn't available to socketed desktop systems based on Haswell. However, it looks like many lower-end CPUs will stick to the Haswell architecture for the time being. When we followed up with Intel later, it wouldn't be more specific about which chips will and won't get the Broadwell upgrade."

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014...-get-broadwell-will-need-to-wait-for-skylake/

If you've been wondering why there has been no Haswell Mac Mini, there it is, plain and simple - no Iris Pro on Haswell. Other rumor sites seem to have Broadwell H-series CPUs with Iris Pro pegged as coming out in Q2 2015.

I gave up back in July when I realized how far off Broadwell H-series was and bought a 2012 Mac Mini, and I'm very pleased with it. I'm glad I didn't annoy myself with at least another year on my 2006 Core Duo Mac Mini.
 
From an interesting article on Ars Technica about Intel's plans for Broadwell and Skylake CPUs:

"On the desktop, the Broadwell architecture will be limited to high-end processors. Intel has already announced plans for one or more chips that incorporate its top-end Iris Pro integrated GPU, something that wasn't available to socketed desktop systems based on Haswell. However, it looks like many lower-end CPUs will stick to the Haswell architecture for the time being. When we followed up with Intel later, it wouldn't be more specific about which chips will and won't get the Broadwell upgrade."

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014...-get-broadwell-will-need-to-wait-for-skylake/

If you've been wondering why there has been no Haswell Mac Mini, there it is, plain and simple - no Iris Pro on Haswell. Other rumor sites seem to have Broadwell H-series CPUs with Iris Pro pegged as coming out in Q2 2015.

I gave up back in July when I realized how far off Broadwell H-series was and bought a 2012 Mac Mini, and I'm very pleased with it. I'm glad I didn't annoy myself with at least another year on my 2006 Core Duo Mac Mini.

The article does not claim that there is no Iris Pro on Haswell. If it did claim that, it would be wrong...

What it does say is that there are no Haswell processors with Iris Pro for the LGA 1150 socket. But that's not the kind of processor that would have gone into the Mini anyway. The Mini uses processors from the mobile lineup, and there are plenty of Haswell mobile processors with Iris Pro. And even some Haswell desktop BGA processors.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haswell_(microarchitecture)
 
One other reason to believe Apple is waiting on Broadwell processors for mini: there is no mobile CPU planned for Broadwell successor, Skylake, so their next refresh will oblige them to commit long-term under strictly Broadwell processors.

It would make no sense to add a minor Haswell refresh at this point.
 
Nah, it was a random number for the number of pages not the number of quotes. All irrelevant anyway as we know it's gonna come out on 'Tuesday'. ;)

Ah, I see. I just had a feeling that it is going to be Kaprekar's Constant for the post count, which happens to work out to 247 for the page count. I thought you might be suspecting the same thing... :)

Anyway, if we can just harness some of the negative energy from the Iphone and Watch threads, I think we should be able to reach 247 pages in time for the October event. Does anyone have any suggestions for appropriately negative rumors about the Mini to stir up some trouble here?
 
Ah, I see. I just had a feeling that it is going to be Kaprekar's Constant for the post count, which happens to work out to 247 for the page count. I thought you might be suspecting the same thing... :)

Anyway, if we can just harness some of the negative energy from the Iphone and Watch threads, I think we should be able to reach 247 pages in time for the October event. Does anyone have any suggestions for appropriately negative rumors about the Mini to stir up some trouble here?

No In fact I am reaching the point of:

"I couldn't care less"

Sad but true.
 
No In fact I am reaching the point of:

"I couldn't care less"

Sad but true.

Yeah, I'm not as excited as I used to be...

When I first joined this thread I was really longing for a Haswell Mini. But that phase has passed. I have solved my urgent computing needs in another way, and will not buy a Haswell Mini if it's released along with Yosemite, or any other time for that matter.

But I'm still interested in seeing what happens with the Mini in the near term, if anything. My stop-gap solution (cheap Bay Trail NUC) has some limitations so I will buy a new computer within a year. And to be able to make an informed decision I will try to listen carefully to any signals from Apple. For example, if they for some reason release a Haswell Mini it would suggest that we may be in for a loooooong wait for the Broadwell Mini, which might convince me to just get the Broadwell i5 NUC instead of waiting for another Mini.

On the other hand, if there is an early Broadwell-Y fanless Mini/Nano I might be tempted to buy it. It would be a bit weaker than what I was planning on buying, but on the other hand it would make a fine HTPC which is one of my planned uses.
 
Yeah, I'm not as excited as I used to be...

When I first joined this thread I was really longing for a Haswell Mini. But that phase has passed. I have solved my urgent computing needs in another way, and will not buy a Haswell Mini if it's released along with Yosemite, or any other time for that matter.

But I'm still interested in seeing what happens with the Mini in the near term, if anything. My stop-gap solution (cheap Bay Trail NUC) has some limitations so I will buy a new computer within a year. And to be able to make an informed decision I will try to listen carefully to any signals from Apple. For example, if they for some reason release a Haswell Mini it would suggest that we may be in for a loooooong wait for the Broadwell Mini, which might convince me to just get the Broadwell i5 NUC instead of waiting for another Mini.

On the other hand, if there is an early Broadwell-Y fanless Mini/Nano I might be tempted to buy it. It would be a bit weaker than what I was planning on buying, but on the other hand it would make a fine HTPC which is one of my planned uses.

Thinking the same thing but more like a NUCentosh I5 U series Broadwell.
 
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