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My 2012 idles at 45deg and 1800 rpm. When doing a Blue Ray rip with handbrake for 4-5 hours it will run at 97%CPU, 89deg, and fluctuate between 2000-2200rpm. My machine has never been above 2300rpm from what I have seen.
Ripping the same bd with an iMac with discrete gpu takes minutes thanks to CUDA.
 
There is absolutely no reason to skip a chip generation
They've already updated the iMacs to Haswell; my point was that Broadwell has further GPU improvements better suited to pushing high density displays like retina iMacs would have. Haswell on its own won't be quite good enough I think, which means they'd have to give all the retina models discrete graphics, which seems like adding complexity.

Also, remember that Broadwell is delayed; it wouldn't be Apple skipping an update, but pushing it back to match availability of parts.
 
They've already updated the iMacs to Haswell; my point was that Broadwell has further GPU improvements better suited to pushing high density displays like retina iMacs would have. Haswell on its own won't be quite good enough I think, which means they'd have to give all the retina models discrete graphics, which seems like adding complexity.

Also, remember that Broadwell is delayed; it wouldn't be Apple skipping an update, but pushing it back to match availability of parts.

If Intel stays on it's announced schedule with Skylake then laptop and desktop Skylake processors will be available by late 2015. I wonder how Broadwell will fit in if Skylake is only about 6 months away when Braodwell for the desktop is readily available?
 
If Intel stays on it's announced schedule with Skylake then laptop and desktop Skylake processors will be available by late 2015. I wonder how Broadwell will fit in if Skylake is only about 6 months away when Braodwell for the desktop is readily available?

I guess there will always be a place for Broadwell in the Mini, even when everything else has moved on to Skylake. :mad:
 
hey guys and girls wake up out there no posts here for almost 4 ¼ hours . Lets move it . That 5k will be very hard to do at this pace.

Good Lord man, who cares about these posts. If there is not going to be a new mini then it's time to move on. Even in its infancy Windows 10 looks totally doable. Sure, I really like Mac OS but only Apple can decide if it wants my business. If not then so be it.
 
Good Lord man, who cares about these posts. If there is not going to be a new mini then it's time to move on. Even in its infancy Windows 10 looks totally doable. Sure, I really like Mac OS but only Apple can decide if it wants my business. If not then so be it.

I've been trying Win 10 in Parallels and it seems to me something I could use. I still have bad memories of many years of Windows use but well, will see what the finish product looks like.
If Win 10 would have come after Win 7 I might have stayed a Windows user. I find OS X very more organized and reliable.
 
I've been trying Win 10 in Parallels and it seems to me something I could use. I still have bad memories of many years of Windows use but well, will see what the finish product looks like.
If Win 10 would have come after Win 7 I might have stayed a Windows user. I find OS X very more organized and reliable.

I agree. I am enjoying OSX much more than I thought I would. Seems rock solid.
 
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I've been trying Win 10 in Parallels and it seems to me something I could use. I still have bad memories of many years of Windows use but well, will see what the finish product looks like.
If Win 10 would have come after Win 7 I might have stayed a Windows user. I find OS X very more organized and reliable.

Apple forced me to really like windows 7.
then of course windows 8 came out a bust.

So I have drawn the conclusion they play good cop bad cop. which means i want a windows and a mac. in terms of both gear and op system.
 
I hope you all won't be disapointed, when on 16 October there will be no new/refreshed Mac mini.

Hope I'm wrong.
 
It seems Apple doesn't want me to buy my first Apple computer!

My 6-year-old-$600 computer just died. I like Windows because I know how to use it. However, I have been very curious about OSX. I don't want an iMac nor a Laptop. I like the Mac Pro but it is too much. My only option would be a Mac Mini. I hope it comes on October 16th. I won't buy a computer with old technology. I would like it to have Wifi ac, a ssd by default, and removable RAM. I don't think I am asking for too much.
I hope Apple makes me buy my first Mac:)
 
It seems Apple doesn't want me to buy my first Apple computer!

My 6-year-old-$600 computer just died. I like Windows because I know how to use it. However, I have been very curious about OSX. I don't want an iMac nor a Laptop. I like the Mac Pro but it is too much. My only option would be a Mac Mini. I hope it comes on October 16th. I won't buy a computer with old technology. I would like it to have Wifi ac, a ssd by default, and removable RAM. I don't think I am asking for too much.
I hope Apple makes me buy my first Mac:)

May The Odds Be Ever In Your Favor~~
 
a dedicated external GPU peripheral - something like the superdrive, which provides a functionality thats not needed by most, but necessary for some, which perhaps can utilise a pair of thunderpolt2 ports in link aggregated mode.

I wouldn't put this past Apple, but if they did then I'd guess they would make a very basic Mac Mini with barely any ports (say 2 USB, HDMI and 2 thunderbolt) and then build the missing ports onto the GPU expansion dock - ethernet, USB, SD card. This would probably suit most people - a basic cheap Mac and a powerful option for the GPU graphic hungry users.

What I very much doubt they'd do is have an external GPU case that allows you to install your own card. Too many issues with heat, form factor and compatibility.
 
I wouldn't put this past Apple, but if they did then I'd guess they would make a very basic Mac Mini with barely any ports (say 2 USB, HDMI and 2 thunderbolt) and then build the missing ports onto the GPU expansion dock - ethernet, USB, SD card. This would probably suit most people - a basic cheap Mac and a powerful option for the GPU graphic hungry users.

I'm inclined to think such a peripheral would only be a graphics card, keeping the mini as fully functional computer without it, and letting it be used with laptops as well. I could picture a solution that packages a single one of whatever cards the Mac Pro uses at the time, with a hard limit on systems only being able to access one of them.
 
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