And as far as we know, the Intel Broadwell CPUs are still far away into the future. Intel's CEO said before the christmas period.
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The new Mac mini is almost certainly coming
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And as far as we know, the Intel Broadwell CPUs are still far away into the future. Intel's CEO said before the christmas period.
Sure is.
90 posts since this time last week, and with that a hint of waning interest in a slightly tweaked 2014 Mini, in with the whiff of something more substantial on the horizon.
My thoughts are still the same, Apple has NO intention of updating the Mini for now. Why should they? They make an absolute killing on the current Mini by lower prices on the parts. The Mini still sells out on Amazon. The current Mini can still run Mavericks quite well and will probably run Yosemite equally as good.
IMO, I see Apple will address the Mac Mini when it can no longer run the current OS. If they have no competing products then they might go an update the Mini. If the rumors are true and they offer a low cost version of the iMac then we may never see another Mini again.
IMO, I see Apple will address the Mac Mini when it can no longer run the current OS. If they have no competing products then they might go an update the Mini. If the rumors are true and they offer a low cost version of the iMac then we may never see another Mini again.
I doubt that the rumours are true.
The idea that the Mini is the entry level Mac have long since gone, if they ever existed. I reckon that most mac Mini owners don't want an iMac
That suggests that it could run better on the mini
As someone who wants to pick up a mini in the next couple of weeks, I'm waiting to see if they do a silent upgrade (I don't see the point waiting till October or later for a Broadwell refresh that may or may not happen), does the current mini with an ssd / 16gb of ram really only run Mavericks 'quite well' - thats worrying to me
- I have no interest in gaming on it but still...
I would like to see Iris Pro if there is a refresh (it is almost certainly coming), but that would equal the current entry-level iMac. I wonder if Apple would ever do such a thing?
I quit. I picked up a Mac Pro 5,1 for $900. Another $200 for 16GB of RAM from OWC, $25 for a USB3 card on Amazon and I'm good to go. Quad core Xeon, 4 internal HDD bays plus 2 SATA connectors for SSD and an optical drive wins in my book.
Thanks anyway Apple, maybe in a few years when this machine is left orphaned on the side of the road like my Mac Pro 1,1 was I'll come check to see if mini was ever updated.
Thanks anyway Apple, maybe in a few years when this machine is left orphaned on the side of the road like my Mac Pro 1,1 was I'll come check to see if mini was ever updated.
That suggests that it could run better on the mini
As someone who wants to pick up a mini in the next couple of weeks, I'm waiting to see if they do a silent upgrade (I don't see the point waiting till October or later for a Broadwell refresh that may or may not happen), does the current mini with an ssd / 16gb of ram really only run Mavericks 'quite well' - thats worrying to me
You're misinterpreting the comment; it runs Mavericks without any issues or problems and will likely run Yosemite without problems either. Don't expect it to be a gaming rig but for desktop computing it's a fine machine. If you put an SSD in it you would be hard-pressed to find a noticeably better computing experience.
Ok good, as I said I have no interest in gaming on it, I have a pretty decent desktop for that. I just wanted a 'first-time' mac, I have no reason for an iMac, another laptop or desktop. This is why I hope they don't get rid of the mac mini, it would leave an empty space in their line imo.
I of course plan on shoving an SSD and RAM into it, which is again part of the reason for a mac mini over say a high priced macbook that I'd just end up plugging into a monitor most of the time anyway
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That is probably the number one thing I am hoping for as well. To be honest, the current Mac Mini 2012 still has very nice performance benchmarks compared to other Macs that are available today. Most of the improvements made in Haswell has been aimed at efficiency and battery life, which isn't a concern for the Mac Mini. Graphics is the major area where an update will improve the Mac Mini. The other would be if they made a switch to SSD across the board (I can dream, right?).
That's my idea of a nightmare. I'd much rather buy a Mini with a large HDD and then add my own SSD, rather than pay the Apple Tax on such components.
Even better would be a Mini available in 0/0 configuration.
Yes... a 0/0 config would be nice, but there's no way they would do that.
I think a good other option would be to offer both 1TB spinners (or fusion drives) or 250GB SSDs for the same price as the base models.
My 2009 Mini runs Mavericks very well. The only feature I am aware that is not supported is screen mirroring to ATV and that's due to hardware limitations. If it did that I would say it runs perfectly.does the current mini with an ssd / 16gb of ram really only run Mavericks 'quite well' - thats worrying to me
The problem is, even if the new Mini still performs quite good, the price just isn't fair. It's 2012 hardware at exactly the same price it was when it was released!
For my needs, a current, maxed out Mac Mini could be enough...except for that HD4000...I simply need more juice than that, and the difference in performance when compared to the Iris Pro is just too big:
Intel HD4000
http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=intel+hd+4000&id=2
Intel Iris Pro
http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=Intel+Iris+Pro+5200
It's a big difference! And while it may enough for most people, it just doesn't have a fair price!
For my needs, a current, maxed out Mac Mini could be enough...except for that HD4000...I simply need more juice than that, and the difference in performance when compared to the Iris Pro is just too big:
Intel HD4000
http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=intel+hd+4000&id=2
Intel Iris Pro
http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=Intel+Iris+Pro+5200
It's a big difference! And while it may enough for most people, it just doesn't have a fair price!
Companies don't price products according to their customers views of "fair". As it's a Mac you cannot buy a different OSX computer as an alternative so limited competition and if they did price it more cheaply would they sell that many more ? So Apple keeps the price and spec where it is and it keeps selling.
I asked this before, and haven't a clue if anyone actually knows the answer:
Does the 2012 Mini cost less to manufacture now than it did twenty months ago?
Does the 2012 Mini cost less to manufacture now than it did twenty months ago?
I agree with you to some extent...it's still TWO year old tech at top dollar. I'm sure I'm not the only one who's holding off of buying a Mac Mini for this reason, in fact I've seen people on this very thread also complaining about the same thing, BUT I do agree we are not so many that a price drop would drive sales up significantly.
I'm sure that by now the prices of some parts must have had a price drop. The current Mini runs on Ivy Bridge, Haswell had been released and then refreshed since it came out, so those processors are cheaper by now.
While the price of assembly might've not changed, cheaper parts means cheaper to produce.
I'm still using my 2009 Mini and as I've posted before it's basically fine. I want a new Mini I don't need one. You are right in that I would buy a new Mini if there was model worth buying (and 2 year old technology isn't worth it). Apple probably thinks the increased margin on the current Mini is worth having, the danger is that without it they may discontinue it.
The presumption would be that yes, manufacturing costs are likely somewhat less. Certain component costs should be lower (HDD and SSD), and most production lines typically gain higher yeilds / lower waste as they mature.
True or not, it's irrelevant. Cost of Goods Sold is rarely relevant to pricing non-commodity and/or non-value-positioned products. Pricing is more a matter of charging what people are willing to pay, and any reductions in production costs merely add to the bottom line. Especially so with well-differentiated premium-positioned products.
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Well for one, no worries when applying an OSX update...
